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The Lawyer's Edge

Elise Holtzman
Law Firms
Leadership
Artificial Intelligence
Business Development
Lateral Moves
Talent Development
Leadership Development
Firm Culture
Work-Life Balance
Executive Presence
Podcasting
Five Springs Infused Bourbon
Private Equity
Profitability
Family Law
Falcon Rappaport & Berkman
Liebert Cassidy Whitmore
Cohen & Buckmann
Heartbeat
Legal Ethics

On The Lawyer's Edge podcast, attorney and professional business coach Elise Holtzman sits down with successful lawyers, legal marketing specialists, business leaders and authors to talk about how lawyers and law firms can grow and sustain healthy, profitable businesses.

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Dr. Larry Richard is recognized as a leading expert on the psychology of lawyer behavior and the use of behavioral science to improve performance in law firms and legal departments. A graduate of the University of Pennsylvania Law School, he practice... more

Brenda A. Barnes, CPA, MBA, is the founder of Brenda Barnes Consulting, where she works with law firm leaders on compensation design, succession planning, and financial strategy. She brings more than 35 years of experience in law firm financial manag... more

Shannon Lombardo is the Director of Business Development at Saul Ewing LLP, a national law firm with more than 400 attorneys. She leads strategic growth initiatives focused on attorney business development coaching, client relationship development, a... more

Michael Mellor is the President and Founder of 742 Advisors, a boutique consultancy focused on law firm revenue generation, pitch operations, and go-to-market strategy. He designs revenue operating models that help firms win more work with less frict... more

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Recent Guests

Brenda Barnes
Founder of Brenda A. Barnes Consulting
Brenda A. Barnes Consulting
Episode: Brenda Barnes | How Law Firm Compensation Shapes Retention and Succession
Shannon Lombardo
Director of Business Development at Saul Ewing LLP
Saul Ewing LLP
Episode: Shannon Lombardo | The Gap Between Wanting to Do Business Development and Actually Doing It
Michael Mellor
President and founder of 742 Advisors; former Chief Marketing and Business Development Officer at Pryor Cashman
742 Advisors; Pryor Cashman
Episode: Michael Mellor | How Better Data Can Help Law Firms Win More Work
Michelle Citrin
Owner of Michelle Citrin Studios, branding photographer for women in law
Michelle Citrin Studios
Episode: Michelle Citrin | Why Your Headshot Is a Business Strategy, Not a Vanity Project
Michael Roch
Founder of MHPR Advisors, consultant on partner compensation and governance
MHPR Advisors
Episode: Michael Roch | How Partner Compensation Can Undermine Your Firm's Strategy
Leslie Davis
CEO of Namwolf, the National Association of Minority and Women Owned Law Firms
Namwolf
Episode: Leslie Davis | How Minority and Women-Owned Firms Are Winning Corporate Work
Emily Stedman
Commercial litigation partner at Husch Blackwell, Milwaukee
Husch Blackwell
Episode: Emily Stedman | What Law Firm Leaders Need to Understand About Lawyer Well-Being
Travis Armstrong
Chief Operating Officer, ELPO (English, Lucas, Priest & Owsley)
ELPO
Episode: Travis Armstrong | What Happens When Lawyers Actually Listen to Their COO
Steve Barham
President and Managing Shareholder, Chambliss Bahner & Stophel
Chambliss Bahner & Stophel
Episode: Steve Barham | Leading with Integrity as the Legal Profession Changes

Host

Elise Holtzman
Host of the show, attorney and professional business coach focused on growth, leadership, and profitability for law firms.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 24 ratings
  • Great for Growth

    The Lawyer’s Edge is one of the most consistently valuable podcasts I listen to as a law firm leader at a growing defense firm. Elise Holtzman does an exceptional job focusing on the issues that actually matter once a firm moves beyond survival mode—leadership, business development, talent development, pricing, client relationships, and long-term sustainability.

    What sets this podcast apart is its practicality. The episodes are not theoretical or academic; they are grounded in real-world law fi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    2010GKDad
    United States4 months ago
  • Great for Growth

    The Lawyer’s Edge is one of the most consistently valuable podcasts I listen to as a law firm leader at a growing defense firm. Elise Holtzman does an exceptional job focusing on the issues that actually matter once a firm moves beyond survival mode—leadership, business development, talent development, pricing, client relationships, and long-term sustainability.

    What sets this podcast apart is its practicality. The episodes are not theoretical or academic; they are grounded in real-world law fi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    2010GKDad
    United States9 months ago
  • Unique and helpful viewpoint for attorneys

    Elise presents a great combination of strategy and practical mindset shifts that will help any lawyer be more successful and happier. I have not heard any other podcast like it.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kathy b trust the journey
    United States2 years ago
  • Review and rating for The Lawyer's Edge!

    Hi there Elise,

    I love what you’re doing with The Lawyer’s Edge podcast! I specifically loved one of your episodes with Jacqueline, and I agree when you alluded to the truth about being good at practicing law as not equivalent to being good at running a law firm. Left you reviews and a 5-star rating!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mav Dallarte
    Philippines3 years ago
  • Rating and review for The Lawyer's Edge!

    Hi there Elise,

    I love what you’re doing with The Lawyer’s Edge podcast, and I’d love for Travis Hoechlin to be considered as a guest for an upcoming episode!

    I specifically loved one of your episodes with Jacqueline, and I agree when you alluded to the truth about being good at practicing law as not equivalent to being good at running a law firm. Left you a review and a 5-star rating!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mav Dallarte
    Philippines3 years ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

• The host's interview style is described as insightful and results-oriented, with a focus on leadership and growth.
• Audience values high-quality guests who combine strategy with real-world implementation.
• Listeners credit practical, actionable takeaways for growing and running law firms.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#86
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#226
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Brenda Barnes | How Law Firm Compensation Shapes Retention and Succession
Q: How do associate compensation systems like level-based pay work in practice, and how do they support succession planning?
She describes level-based systems tied to core competencies, market salary bands, and transparency about progression, which helps identify high performers, provide clear advancement paths, and support smoother leadership transitions.
Brenda Barnes | How Law Firm Compensation Shapes Retention and Succession
Q: Is compensation primarily about money, or are there other motivators at play for younger lawyers?
Brenda emphasizes that for younger lawyers, clarity about advancement, mentoring, and meaningful non-monetary rewards are just as important as pay, with transparency reducing loyalty myths and helping retain talent.
Brenda Barnes | How Law Firm Compensation Shapes Retention and Succession
Q: You're a busy person. Why has compensation become such a critical issue for firms right now?
Brenda explains that compensation touches almost every challenge a firm faces—from recruiting and retention to culture and leadership development—and must evolve with a multi-generational workforce that demands more transparency, clear career paths, and alignment with firm strategy.
Michelle Citrin | Why Your Headshot Is a Business Strategy, Not a Vanity Project
Q: How is AI influencing how lawyers should approach branding and imagery?
AI is changing how people discover and perceive attorneys, so brands must remain human-focused and use authentic visuals to cut through automated content and maintain trust.
Michelle Citrin | Why Your Headshot Is a Business Strategy, Not a Vanity Project
Q: Why is a professional headshot important beyond just looking good?
A headshot signals authority and trust; it should reflect the attorney's current level of success and leadership, aligning with their expertise so clients see them as credible and capable.

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Frequently Asked Questions About The Lawyer's Edge

What is The Lawyer's Edge about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A practical, practitioner-focused show examining how law firms grow, compete, and operate as sustainable businesses. Episodes frequently unpack leadership, compensation, client development, talent strategy, and operational enablement with guests who are firm leaders, COOs, or experts in law firm management, often tying concepts to real-world frameworks and measurable outcomes. A notable strength is the mix of seasoned law-firm executives and external experts who bring actionable, implementation-ready guidance, from governance and compensation to training, succession, and wellbeing. The format tends to emphasize concrete strategies, data-driven decisions, and the alignment of incentives with long-term profitability, making it a strong resour... more

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Recent guests on The Lawyer's Edge include:

1. Brenda Barnes
2. Shannon Lombardo
3. Michael Mellor
4. Michelle Citrin
5. Michael Roch
6. Leslie Davis
7. Emily Stedman
8. Travis Armstrong

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