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The Lawyer's Edge

Elise Holtzman
Leadership
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On The Lawyer's Edge podcast, attorney and professional business coach Elise Holtzman sits down with successful lawyers, legal marketing specialists, business leaders and authors to talk about how lawyers and law firms can grow and sustain healthy, profitable businesses.

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Travis Armstrong is the Chief Operating Officer of English, Lucas, Priest & Owsley, also known as ELPO, the largest full-service law firm in South Central Kentucky. He has managed the operations of the firm for 21 years, after beginning his career in... more

Steve Barham is the president and managing shareholder of Chambliss Bahner & Stophel, PC, a law firm based in Chattanooga, Tennessee. A graduate of the University of Virginia School of Law, Steve has practiced in Chattanooga since 1998 and joined Cha... more

Ryan Lockman is the managing partner of Horn Williamson & Collins, a mid-sized construction and commercial litigation law firm in Philadelphia and Delaware. A trial lawyer representing homeowners in residential construction defect and consumer protec... more

Ivy Slater is the CEO of Slater Success, a boutique coaching and consulting firm working at the intersection of strategic growth and succession planning. Before becoming a coach and advisor, she built and sold a seven-figure business in New York City... more

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Recent Guests

Michael Caplan
Chief Operating Officer at Lowenstein Sandler
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Episode: Michael Caplan | How a Client-Facing COO is Changing the Business of Law
Jim Pattillo
Litigation partner and litigation practice group chair at Christian & Small
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Episode: Jim Pattillo | Scaling a Litigation Practice Without Losing What Makes It Work
Katya Jestin
Partner at Jenner & Block; former federal prosecutor; co-chair of Investigations, Compliance and Defense Practice
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Episode: Katya Jestin | Leading with Authenticity in High-Stakes Legal Environments
Marcie Borgal Shunk
Founder and President of The Tilt Institute
The Tilt Institute
Episode: Marcie Borgal Shunk and Sona Spencer | The Death of Apprenticeship: What it Means for Lawyers and Law Firms
Sona Spencer
Chief Legal Talent Officer at Troutman Pepper Locke
Troutman Pepper Locke
Episode: Marcie Borgal Shunk and Sona Spencer | The Death of Apprenticeship: What it Means for Lawyers and Law Firms
Estelle Winsett
Former litigation attorney, now style strategist for women in law
Estelle Winsett Style Strategy
Episode: Estelle Winsett | How Lawyers Build Credibility Before They Say a Word
Niraj Chhabra
Founder of Sidebar Advisors, financial planning firm for attorneys
Sidebar Advisors
Episode: Niraj Chhabra | Turning Legal Success into Financial Security
Dennis Meador
CEO of The Legal Podcast Network
The Legal Podcast Network
Episode: Dennis Meador | Conversations as Authority: How FAQ Podcasts Help Lawyers Differentiate and Attract Clients
Adam Severson
Chief Marketing and Business Development Officer at Baker Donelson
Baker Donelson
Episode: Adam Severson | Executive Presence: How to Turn Skill into Influence

Host

Elise Holtzman
Host of The Lawyer's Edge; focuses on leadership, growth, and practical business development for law firms.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 24 ratings
  • Great for Growth

    The Lawyer’s Edge is one of the most consistently valuable podcasts I listen to as a law firm leader at a growing defense firm. Elise Holtzman does an exceptional job focusing on the issues that actually matter once a firm moves beyond survival mode—leadership, business development, talent development, pricing, client relationships, and long-term sustainability.

    What sets this podcast apart is its practicality. The episodes are not theoretical or academic; they are grounded in real-world law fi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    2010GKDad
    United States2 months ago
  • Great for Growth

    The Lawyer’s Edge is one of the most consistently valuable podcasts I listen to as a law firm leader at a growing defense firm. Elise Holtzman does an exceptional job focusing on the issues that actually matter once a firm moves beyond survival mode—leadership, business development, talent development, pricing, client relationships, and long-term sustainability.

    What sets this podcast apart is its practicality. The episodes are not theoretical or academic; they are grounded in real-world law fi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    2010GKDad
    United States6 months ago
  • Unique and helpful viewpoint for attorneys

    Elise presents a great combination of strategy and practical mindset shifts that will help any lawyer be more successful and happier. I have not heard any other podcast like it.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kathy b trust the journey
    United States2 years ago
  • Review and rating for The Lawyer's Edge!

    Hi there Elise,

    I love what you’re doing with The Lawyer’s Edge podcast! I specifically loved one of your episodes with Jacqueline, and I agree when you alluded to the truth about being good at practicing law as not equivalent to being good at running a law firm. Left you reviews and a 5-star rating!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mav Dallarte
    Philippines3 years ago
  • Rating and review for The Lawyer's Edge!

    Hi there Elise,

    I love what you’re doing with The Lawyer’s Edge podcast, and I’d love for Travis Hoechlin to be considered as a guest for an upcoming episode!

    I specifically loved one of your episodes with Jacqueline, and I agree when you alluded to the truth about being good at practicing law as not equivalent to being good at running a law firm. Left you a review and a 5-star rating!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mav Dallarte
    Philippines3 years ago

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Michael Caplan | How a Client-Facing COO is Changing the Business of Law
Q: So how did those experiences shape your vision for what a COO can actually do at a law firm?
Caplan explains he brings client-side operational discipline into the law firm, embedding business professionals in client development, pricing, and knowledge management to partner with lawyers, with a focus on revenue as well as efficiency.
Sandra Cohen | The Long Game of Business Development That Actually Works
Q: What advice would you give to senior lawyers who want to start thought leadership or client outreach?
Her guidance is to avoid stumbling over past setbacks, focus on making friends, and use collaboration (co-authoring, interviewing, moderating) to gradually build a byline and visible expertise.
Sandra Cohen | The Long Game of Business Development That Actually Works
Q: How did you get involved in speaking on panels or moderating panels, and how has that helped your business?
She describes proactively creating opportunities via bar associations, organizing panels or ethics talks, and leveraging LinkedIn posts to land further speaking engagements, which then lead to referrals and credibility.
Sandra Cohen | The Long Game of Business Development That Actually Works
Q: What role do content marketing and thought leadership play for you and your firm?
Content marketing and thought leadership establish credibility, attract prospective clients, and strengthen client relationships by demonstrating knowledge and addressing client concerns; a strong content library also broadens the professional network.
Sandra Cohen | The Long Game of Business Development That Actually Works
Q: Did you have that recognition when you started the firm? Like, hey, I don't really want to do this Icky stuff, but I'm going to have to do it?
Sandra describes a gradual shift from feeling uncomfortable about selling to valuing relationships and networking; she started with client service and referrals, then built a practice through consistent relationship-building rather than overt sales tactics.

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This show centers on practical growth for law firms and lawyers, emphasizing leadership, business development, talent strategy, profitability, and personal effectiveness. Episodes frequently feature partners, chief HR officers, marketing leaders, and external experts who share actionable frameworks for scaling practices, developing talent, and building credible client relationships. A standout is its consistent focus on real-world applicability—concrete playbooks, measurable outcomes, and sponsor-integrated resources for lawyers aiming to mature beyond billable work. The format blends leadership insights with firm economics and client-centric growth, making it relevant for firm leaders, marketing and BD teams, and experienced practitioners ... more

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2. Jim Pattillo
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