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The Lawyer's Edge

Elise Holtzman
Law Firms
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On The Lawyer's Edge podcast, attorney and professional business coach Elise Holtzman sits down with successful lawyers, legal marketing specialists, business leaders and authors to talk about how lawyers and law firms can grow and sustain healthy, profitable businesses.

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Leslie D. Davis is the Chief Executive Officer of the National Association of Minority and Women Owned Law Firms, Inc. (NAMWOLF), a nonprofit trade association that connects preeminent minority and women-owned law firms with corporations and public e... more

Emily Stedman is a commercial litigation partner at Husch Blackwell LLP in Milwaukee, where she handles complex business disputes from pre-suit negotiation through trial and appeal. With more than a decade of experience in practice, Emily brings both... more

Travis Armstrong is the Chief Operating Officer of English, Lucas, Priest & Owsley, also known as ELPO, the largest full-service law firm in South Central Kentucky. He has managed the operations of the firm for 21 years, after beginning his career in... more

Steve Barham is the president and managing shareholder of Chambliss Bahner & Stophel, PC, a law firm based in Chattanooga, Tennessee. A graduate of the University of Virginia School of Law, Steve has practiced in Chattanooga since 1998 and joined Cha... more

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Recent Guests

Leslie Davis
CEO of Namwolf, the National Association of Minority and Women Owned Law Firms
Namwolf
Episode: Leslie Davis | How Minority and Women-Owned Firms Are Winning Corporate Work
Emily Stedman
Commercial litigation partner at Husch Blackwell, Milwaukee
Husch Blackwell
Episode: Emily Stedman | What Law Firm Leaders Need to Understand About Lawyer Well-Being
Travis Armstrong
Chief Operating Officer, ELPO (English, Lucas, Priest & Owsley)
ELPO
Episode: Travis Armstrong | What Happens When Lawyers Actually Listen to Their COO
Steve Barham
President and Managing Shareholder, Chambliss Bahner & Stophel
Chambliss Bahner & Stophel
Episode: Steve Barham | Leading with Integrity as the Legal Profession Changes
Ryan Lockman
Managing Partner at Horn Williamson & Collins
Horn Williamson & Collins
Episode: Ryan Lockman | How One Managing Partner Is Rethinking Attorney Training From the Ground Up
Ivy Slater
CEO of Slater Success, coaching and consulting firm that works at the intersection of strategic growth and succession planning
Slater Success
Episode: Ivy Slater | Why Succession Planning Is a Growth Strategy, Not a Retirement Issue
Michael Caplan
Chief Operating Officer at Lowenstein Sandler
Lowenstein Sandler
Episode: Michael Caplan | How a Client-Facing COO is Changing the Business of Law
Jim Pattillo
Litigation partner and litigation practice group chair at Christian & Small
Christian & Small
Episode: Jim Pattillo | Scaling a Litigation Practice Without Losing What Makes It Work
Katya Jestin
Partner at Jenner & Block; former federal prosecutor; co-chair of Investigations, Compliance and Defense Practice
Jenner & Block
Episode: Katya Jestin | Leading with Authenticity in High-Stakes Legal Environments

Host

Elise Holtzman
Host of The Lawyer's Edge; focuses on leadership, growth, and practical business development for law firms.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 24 ratings
  • Great for Growth

    The Lawyer’s Edge is one of the most consistently valuable podcasts I listen to as a law firm leader at a growing defense firm. Elise Holtzman does an exceptional job focusing on the issues that actually matter once a firm moves beyond survival mode—leadership, business development, talent development, pricing, client relationships, and long-term sustainability.

    What sets this podcast apart is its practicality. The episodes are not theoretical or academic; they are grounded in real-world law fi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    2010GKDad
    United States2 months ago
  • Great for Growth

    The Lawyer’s Edge is one of the most consistently valuable podcasts I listen to as a law firm leader at a growing defense firm. Elise Holtzman does an exceptional job focusing on the issues that actually matter once a firm moves beyond survival mode—leadership, business development, talent development, pricing, client relationships, and long-term sustainability.

    What sets this podcast apart is its practicality. The episodes are not theoretical or academic; they are grounded in real-world law fi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    2010GKDad
    United States7 months ago
  • Unique and helpful viewpoint for attorneys

    Elise presents a great combination of strategy and practical mindset shifts that will help any lawyer be more successful and happier. I have not heard any other podcast like it.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kathy b trust the journey
    United States2 years ago
  • Review and rating for The Lawyer's Edge!

    Hi there Elise,

    I love what you’re doing with The Lawyer’s Edge podcast! I specifically loved one of your episodes with Jacqueline, and I agree when you alluded to the truth about being good at practicing law as not equivalent to being good at running a law firm. Left you reviews and a 5-star rating!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mav Dallarte
    Philippines3 years ago
  • Rating and review for The Lawyer's Edge!

    Hi there Elise,

    I love what you’re doing with The Lawyer’s Edge podcast, and I’d love for Travis Hoechlin to be considered as a guest for an upcoming episode!

    I specifically loved one of your episodes with Jacqueline, and I agree when you alluded to the truth about being good at practicing law as not equivalent to being good at running a law firm. Left you a review and a 5-star rating!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mav Dallarte
    Philippines3 years ago

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The host is seen as an excellent interviewer who asks smart questions and brings on relevant guests.
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Leslie Davis | How Minority and Women-Owned Firms Are Winning Corporate Work
Q: How has the leadership approach evolved to address changing corporate commitments to DEI while staying true to delivering value?
The focus shifted from labeling to delivering value, emphasizing outcomes, expertise, and reliability, while DEI remains a core background consideration but not the sole narrative.
Leslie Davis | How Minority and Women-Owned Firms Are Winning Corporate Work
Q: So Namwolf is really just an organization that has a mission of ensuring that minority and women owned law firms are engaged, utilized by everybody. Who does it serve, and what is it working to accomplish?
Namwolf serves companies, agencies, and entities that need legal services, ensuring diverse firms are connected with the right opportunities and people across the legal ecosystem.
Steve Barham | Leading with Integrity as the Legal Profession Changes
Q: How does he balance the business of law with maintaining the honor of the profession?
He argues that the rule of law and public service obligations require lawyers to act honorably, provide pro bono support, and mentor the next generation, ensuring the profession remains respected even as it becomes more business-oriented.
Steve Barham | Leading with Integrity as the Legal Profession Changes
Q: What was Steve Barham's path to the top role at his firm, and what leadership lessons did he learn along the way?
Steve describes moving from general counsel to president as a journey shaped by resolving shareholder conflicts, clarifying ethics rules, and investing in relationships and governance. He emphasizes servant leadership, listening, and modeling the behavior he asks of others as core to effective leadership.
Michael Caplan | How a Client-Facing COO is Changing the Business of Law
Q: So how did those experiences shape your vision for what a COO can actually do at a law firm?
Caplan explains he brings client-side operational discipline into the law firm, embedding business professionals in client development, pricing, and knowledge management to partner with lawyers, with a focus on revenue as well as efficiency.

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What is The Lawyer's Edge about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on practical growth for law firms and lawyers, emphasizing leadership, business development, talent strategy, profitability, and personal effectiveness. Episodes frequently feature partners, chief HR officers, marketing leaders, and external experts who share actionable frameworks for scaling practices, developing talent, and building credible client relationships. A standout is its consistent focus on real-world applicability—concrete playbooks, measurable outcomes, and sponsor-integrated resources for lawyers aiming to mature beyond billable work. The format blends leadership insights with firm economics and client-centric growth, making it relevant for firm leaders, marketing and BD teams, and experienced practitioners ... more

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1. Leslie Davis
2. Emily Stedman
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4. Steve Barham
5. Ryan Lockman
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7. Michael Caplan
8. Jim Pattillo

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