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Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast, your go-to destination for all things DEI, HR, and workplace inclusivity. Hosted by two BFFs with a combined decades of experience in the people space, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton, this podcast is where candid conversations meet insightful, actionable strategies. Together, they dive deep into the complex (and often messy) world of Diversity, Equity, and I... more

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What happens when an absence becomes so familiar that nobody thinks to question it?

While watching the World Cup, Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn noticed that Argentina’s national team looked different from many of the teams competing around it. T... more

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Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation on The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn sit down with Tina Shah Paikeday , Senior Advisor for Responsible AI at Findem, to dig into how AI is revolutionizing... more

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Ready to transform your job search and ace your next interview? In this powerful episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton sit down with expert interview coach Ramon Santillian to unpack the secrets to landing your dream ... more

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🎙️ Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast with Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton! In this special episode, the hosts dive deep into how and where people get their news, the challenges of finding unbiased sources, and why it matters more than ever with ... more

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Tina Paikeday
Senior Advisor for Responsible AI at Findem
Findem
Episode: Leveraging AI to Improve Talent Quality and Diversity with Tina Shah Paikeday
Ramon Santillian
Interview coach specializing in neurodiverse candidates
Persuasive Interview
Episode: Elevating Neurodiverse Talent: Breaking Interview Barriers with Coach Ramon Santillian
Hugues Sygney Jr.
Senior Program Manager for Racial Equity at B Lab US in Canada
B Lab
Episode: Actionable Paths to Racial Equity and Belonging in Business with Hugues Sygney Jr.
Michael Wenning
Recruiting veteran and founder of Passive
Passive (app founder)
Episode: Making Job Hunting Human Again with Michael Wenning @ HR Tech2025
Bobby Melloy
Organizational psychologist; Regional Director of People Science for Culture Amp
Culture Amp
Episode: When Company Culture Fails: The Hidden Signals Leaders Send Every Day with Dr. Bobby Melloy
Ruchika T. Malhotra
Inclusion strategist; author of Inclusion on Purpose and Uncompete
Candor (strategy practice)
Episode: Radical Generosity and Rethinking Competition: Insights from Ruchika Malhotra on Inclusive AF
Desiree Goldey
Co-host of the Talentless Podcast
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Episode: Navigating Chaos by Design: HR’s Role in Social Equity and Generational Wealth w/ Ashley & Desiree
Ashley King
Talentless Podcast
Episode: Navigating Chaos by Design: HR’s Role in Social Equity and Generational Wealth w/ Ashley & Desiree
Sophia Whelan
Co-founder of Horizon Human
Horizon Human
Episode: Navigating AI Adoption in HR: From Shiny Tools to Meaningful Workforce Planning w/ Sarah & Sofia

Host

Katee Van Horn; Jackye Clayton
Hosts focusing on DEI, HR, and workplace inclusion with practical strategies and engaging conversation.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 37 ratings
  • Has fragrance, but works very well as a cleaner

    Multiple members of my family have issues with fragrances, so we hate it. I get migraines, and my husband and his dad and sister get asthma attacks when we are around fragrances.The fragrance used in this cleaner is not too strong, thankfully, and it is one that doesn't affect me quite as much as others. It irritates my nose, but it causes only a mild pain in my head that isn't noticeable if I don't think about it.However, this stuff cleans. I have used it now to clean my stove top, kitchen sink... more

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    Erin
    United States4 years ago
  • It’s actually a miracle

    I bought this because I saw it on a BuzzFeed list and it was reasonably priced to just test out. I tried it out on my kitchen sink which is in an apartment built in the early 90s. Tbh I didn’t think it possible to make this sink look this shiny and new. I’ve tried COUNTLESS products to try and get the grime off mainly the on/off lever and faucet spout. Some products made it look new temporarily but it always dried gross looking.This stuff was easy to use, has no smell and the end result is worth... more

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    5
    Farren
    United States4 years ago
  • Great for glass cooktop

    I am very pleased with this product for my glass cook top. One picture is a "before" of the left side; another picture is the beginning of the cleaning process on the right side (you can still see some of the brown stains); the third is after I used the Pink Stuff mostly on the outside of the cooking surfaces. I have tried other products to get the brown, burnt-on stuff off, and I've had a difficult time finding anything that worked. This stuff worked immediately (with a little elbow-grease). Pl... more

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    loveandsmiles99
    United States4 years ago
  • It works, BUT........

    The product i recieved was damaged. It also does NOT smell pleasant. It almost smells like its very old. However, it most certainly cleans well!! Shipping was a total nightmare! We were expecting the product by six o'clock the afternoon it was supposed to arrive. The product was taken to our carrier facility, which thankfully wasnt far from where we live. When i recieved the package it had the look like someone tried to open it. One side of the tape had been cut open. When i opened the box, it l... more

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    Corey b.
    United States4 years ago
  • Works good, but not a miracle...

    This Products works good however, it's not a miracle as stated on the label. My 1st test and main reason for acquiring this was to clean our oven.I used a knock off oven cleaner 1st to get the oven build up to a reasonable level. The product is easy to use and doesn't smell. Kind of reminds me of a car polish.Bottom line is that it works however, you're not just gonna rub it on, wait 10 minutes and then wipe it off and have a sparkling oven...that's not happening. You are going to have to put so... more

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    The Rickster
    United States4 years ago

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Thoughtful, practical DEI insights from two experts.
Accessible yet sharp discussions on inclusion and leadership.
Consistently engaging and informative for HR and DEI professionals.
High-quality guests and actionable takeaways for workplaces.
Energetic hosts with candid conversations.

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Why Changing DEI Terms Won’t Change the Mission with Eric M. Bailey
Q: What is one thing you want listeners to take away from this discussion?
To walk away with the idea that understanding and curiosity can transform how we interact, leading to safer, more productive, and more inclusive workplaces.
Leveraging AI to Improve Talent Quality and Diversity with Tina Shah Paikeday
Q: When you think about AI, what is the most important thing on your mind, and how do you think about bias that can creep in when it comes to AI?
AI should be used as a responsible assistant with well-designed domain-specific models and guardrails, to reduce bias and enhance decision quality, while keeping human judgment and oversight central.
Radical Generosity and Rethinking Competition: Insights from Ruchika Malhotra on Inclusive AF
Q: What is one thing that you want to make sure folks hear or take away from this conversation, beyond go read the book?
The main takeaway is to challenge the default assumption that competition is the only path to success; reimagine processes to foster collaboration, invest in career development for all, and practice radical generosity to build inclusive, high-performing organizations.
When Company Culture Fails: The Hidden Signals Leaders Send Every Day with Dr. Bobby Melloy
Q: What should people look for when choosing a workplace that aligns with their values?
Seek signals from the organization about engagement action taken based on employee feedback, understand how values are enacted daily, and verify through sources beyond marketing materials, such as candidate conversations and current employee perspectives.
When Company Culture Fails: The Hidden Signals Leaders Send Every Day with Dr. Bobby Melloy
Q: How do you advise HR practitioners to handle potentially dangerous or misaligned culture initiatives?
Ground initiatives in data, align with clearly defined organizational values, and ensure leadership signals are consistent with stated goals to safeguard psychological safety while pursuing candor and change.

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This show focuses on DEI, HR, and workplace inclusivity, pairing candid conversations with actionable strategies. Hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton guide discussions that range from talent management and leadership development to responsible AI, data-driven DEI, and practical workplace culture improvements. Regular guests come from HR tech, DEI, and talent spaces, offering real-world insights, case studies, and frameworks that listeners can apply in their organizations. The tone mixes sharp, no-nonsense takeaways with relatable storytelling and humor, making complex topics accessible for HR pros, DEI champions, and leaders aiming to create truly inclusive workplaces. A notable strength is its blend of expert guest perspectives with th... more

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2. Ramon Santillian
3. Hugues Sygney Jr.
4. Michael Wenning
5. Bobby Melloy
6. Ruchika T. Malhotra
7. Desiree Goldey
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