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The Immortal Life of Agencies

Co:definery
Artificial Intelligence
Creativity
Coca-Cola
Value-Based Pricing
M&C Saatchi
Market Of One
On-Demand Talent
Eidra
AKQA
Marketing Procurement
Cornett
Joan
Yes And
Agency Staffing Models
Remote Workforce
Agency Model
Agencies
Capital Efficiency
Croud
Cultural Marketing

Fancy a bit more positivity around the business of running an agency? Welcome to Co:definery’s podcast ‘The Immortal Life of Agencies’. Here we celebrate the visionaries and change-makers who are actively future-proofing the agency sector. Each episode features our CEO Robin Bonn having short, sharp conversations - sometimes even friendly arguments - with some of the biggest, broadest and deepest ... more

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Today’s guest is Stuart Dunk, a former marketing procurement leader at the likes of Nike, Reckitt and Danone. He now runs his own consultancy, Don't Forget to Look.

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Today’s guest is John Connors, CEO of the Boston-based, full-service agency, Boathouse.

John argues that agencies have become too transactional, weakening client relationships as well as their impact on business outcomes. So he’s built a client-cent... more

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Stuart Dunk
Founder of Don't Forget to Look, marketing procurement expert
Don't Forget to Look | Co:definery guest
Episode: Don't Forget to Look's Founder: Crack the Procurement Code – Stuart Dunk
John Connors
CEO and co-founder of Boathouse
Boathouse
Episode: Boathouse's CEO: Going back to basics – John Connors
Stacey Gersten
Co-founder of Main Character, Celebrity Partnership specialist
Main Character
Episode: Main Character's Co-Founders: Making the impossible happen – Courtney Worthman & Stacey Gersten
Courtney Worthman
Co-founder of Main Character, PR/advertising veteran
Main Character
Episode: Main Character's Co-Founders: Making the impossible happen – Courtney Worthman & Stacey Gersten
Micky Ogando
CEO and Chief Creative Officer of Bakery
Bakery
Episode: Bakery Agency's CEO: What clients don’t understand about indies – Micky Ogando
Måns Hosk
Co-CEO of Eidra
Eidra
Episode: Eidra's Co-CEO: How pragmatism drives growth – Måns Hosk
Josh Campo
CEO of Huge (HuGE)
Huge (HuGE)
Episode: Huge's CEO: When everything changes all at once – Josh Campo
James Greenfield
CEO and co-founder of Coto (Koto)
Coto
Episode: Koto’s CEO: How client-centricity drives growth – James Greenfield
Marcel Petitpas
CEO of Parakeeto, agency profitability specialist
Parakeeto
Episode: Parakeeto's CEO: The simplest path to profit – Marcel Petitpas

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Robin Bonn
Host of The Immortal Life of Agencies

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Boathouse's CEO: Going back to basics – John Connors
Q: How is AI affecting the commercials of Boathouse's business and the P&L?
Early on, they're productively exploring AI, focusing on patterns across clients to identify where AI adds growth vs. efficiency, and they're building a revenue-mapping framework to translate marketing into P&L terms.
Boathouse's CEO: Going back to basics – John Connors
Q: Talk us through chronologically, how does Boathouse show up and earn the right to have access to the CEO and have these conversations?
They approach with a CEO-centric mindset, map the CEO's promises, build a brand map, and pair it with strong math and statistics to discuss revenue impact, eventually earning access and trust through value-driven conversations.
Croud's CEO: Pioneering a new agency model – Luke Smith
Q: For those listening who don't yet know quite enough about Croud, could you give us a very short summary of the size and scale of the business?
Croud is a full-service digital-first agency operating in five locations with a global footprint in 120 markets, about 600 in-house staff and a 2,900-strong Crowdy network, plus ongoing private equity backing to fuel growth.
Eidra's Co-CEO: How pragmatism drives growth – Måns Hosk
Q: What role does AI play in Eidra's strategy, and how do you balance human and technologic capabilities?
AI will affect different service lines in distinct ways, with a focus on maintaining human judgment and organizational change as core differentiators, while using AI to accelerate execution and support on-site transformation efforts.
Eidra's Co-CEO: How pragmatism drives growth – Måns Hosk
Q: How do you sell a multifaceted proposition without overwhelming the client?
We learned to start with the specific capability the client asks for and then bring in a complementary 'friend' from another discipline to show how the combined perspectives can solve the client's problem, building trust step by step.

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This show centers on high‑level conversations with senior agency leaders, strategists, and technology experts who are reshaping how modern agencies operate. Across episodes, hosts explore culture shifts, productization of services, value‑based pricing, and the growing influence of AI on creativity, delivery, and client relationships. Guests bring hands‑on experience with independent and networked agencies, spanning branding, digital experiences, profitability models, talent strategies, and governance. The tone is practical and optimistic, with real‑world anecdotes about scaling, partnerships, and navigating industry disruption. Listeners likely include agency decision‑makers, marketeers, and tech/ops leaders seeking actionable frameworks fo... more

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