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Your weekly rhetorical assault on the on the news cycle, the people who make it, and occasionally ourselves. Kmele Foster (Freethink), Michael Moynihan (Vice), and Matt Welch (Reason) talk and laugh and drink their way to at least quasi-sanity in a world gone mad, often with the aid of clean and articulate guests. Weekly Members Only subscription edition often comes with listener mail and professi... more

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- Steven Pinker on why “common knowledge” is much stranger than it sounds

-The social machinery behin... more

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His next book, China Whisperers (out in November), looks at the diplomats, journalists, scholars, and China hands who shaped America’s understanding, and misunderstandi... more

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-Kmele gets glasses

-The return of Soho legs

-Matt’s movie-theater race science

-Trump sends a lett... more

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We’re joined by Anthony Scaramucci, founder of SkyBridge Capital, former White House Communications Director, and one of the more memorable casualties of Trump 1.0

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Recent Guests

Steven Pinker
Celebrated academic; psychologist and public intellectual
Harvard University
Episode: When Everyone Stops Pretending w/ Steven Pinker (Episode #557)
Robert D. Kaplan
Geopolitical writer and commentator
Author and Journalist
Episode: Robert D. Kaplan on a World Getting Darker (Members Only #320)
David French
Conservative commentator and writer
David French The Dispatch / National Review
Episode: David French on the Supreme Court, Race, and the Miracle That Confirmed His Faith #555
Michelle Goldberg
New York Times columnist
The New York Times
Episode: Tucker, Totenkopf, and the Fascist Question w/ Michelle Goldberg #554
Ryan Long
Comedian and guest for this episode
Episode: Live From Village Underground: The 10th Anniversary Show w/Ryan Long (Members Only #317)
Brian Kilmeade
Television host and Fox News personality
Fox News
Episode: Audience of One w/ Brian Kilmeade (Members Only #316)
Mark Harmon
Actor and author, discussing his historical books and the Ghosts of Sicily series
Episode: Nothing is Impossible w/ Mark Harmon (Members Only #315)
Sarah Isgur
Legal journalist and former DOJ official; legal correspondent
Former DOJ / Legal journalism
Episode: Supreme Court, Inferior Congress w/ Sarah Isgur (Members Only #314)
Abe Greenwald
Neocon extraordinaire, executive editor at Commentary Magazine
Commentary Magazine
Episode: The Ceasefire That Wasn’t #552 (w/ Abe Greenwald)

Hosts

Matt Welch
Host with focus on American history, politics, and commentary.
Michael Moynihan
Co-host known for political analysis and media critique.
Kmele Foster
Co-host with libertarian-leaning perspectives and media commentary.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 4.4k ratings
  • Just another anti-Trump show

    2 stars a year or so cause it was light in facts and deep in snark. Tried it again for a couple episodes and, maybe this is too small a sample, but now it’s just one of a hundred pods that just bashes Trump. I think Trump is a bad president, but these are so predictable and tedious.

    Christie’s is an example. An excellent former prosecutor, good presidential candidate was bullied by Trump so now, like the little kid who got bullied, is looking to stick it to the bully. When did Christie become ... more

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    Samson38$
    United States2 months ago
  • Love the Moynihan Show + his standing guests

    Love the show, guests and banter. Moynihan clearly loves the sound of his voice and dominates the conversation. He also talks over Kmele too much. Want more Kmele.

    2026 update. No longer able to listen. They are not libertarians but mouthpieces for the Dems. Nothing Trump or his administration does is ok. C’mon. That’s impossible.

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    Notthefinalrose
    United States3 months ago
  • no full length free episodes, don't bother it's just another subscription for very little return.

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    Jack
    3 months ago
  • Strange bedfellows

    I used to think that these guys were interesting and fun to listen to in terms of their sarcastic banter. Recently though, their resistance to calling out Ana Kasparian for her antisemitic rhetoric has changed my mind. Calling out hateful speech towards Jews and Israel is necessary. Being critical of Israeli policy and society is fine. I do it every day. AK is awful and the guys continuing to call her a friend indicates to me that they are not journalists I can trust.

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    Kolya247
    Canada3 months ago
  • Hey Dope!

    The answer to how to stop Trump’s second term was to stick with the 81 Million Vote Biden-Harris ticket. In what universe do you live in that you think Harris-Waltz was a better ticket even after they incredibly lost the popular vote which Biden had trounced Trump by seven million. Blame dopes Clooney Stewart CNN NYT Ezra and Moynihan who even when proven wrong double down on their arrogance.

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    80'sVillager
    United States3 months ago

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A mix of praise for balanced, thoughtful analysis and criticism for perceived partisanship or tone.

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Is Apple Still Apple? #550 (w/ David Pogue)
Q: What about the broader AI landscape and the sustainability of the current investment frenzy in AI companies?
The guests express skepticism about a rapid, uniform profitability across AI giants, forecasting a piecemeal, long‑term transition with potential regulation shaping the market, rather than an immediate, broad profits surge.
Is Apple Still Apple? #550 (w/ David Pogue)
Q: Let's talk specifically about Apple's AI efforts and what we should expect going forward.
Apple missed the generative AI rush initially but intends to integrate AI in a privacy‑preserving way, using on‑device features and a controlled server‑side path with transparency and a strong emphasis on user privacy.
The Limits of Sound and Fury w/ Rahm Emanuel (Members Only #311)
Q: What was the strategic priority after the Recovery Act and healthcare moves?
The policy teams pushed for financial reform first, arguing that stabilizing the economy and reining in the financial system was essential to either neutralize or align the various power centers with the broader public interest before tackling healthcare and other measures.
Iran and the Fog of Regime Change (w/Hooman Majd) - #547
Q: How reliable is information coming from Iranian state media versus other sources?
He emphasizes skepticism toward state media but also notes that independent verification exists through satellite imagery and on-the-ground reporting, while stressing that propaganda is present on all sides and should be carefully scrutinized.
Iran and the Fog of Regime Change (w/Hooman Majd) - #547
Q: What is your take on the current war and whether it constitutes regime change or regime adjustment?
The guest argues that while the action targets leadership and the security apparatus, the longer-term outcome depends on whether the regime becomes pliant or is replaced with a homegrown reformist or more open governance model, and he distinguishes between regime change and regime adjustment.

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