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The Covert Narcissism Podcast

Renee Swanson, Bleav
Covert Narcissism
Emotional Abuse
Mental Health
Healing
Relationships
Covert Narcissistic Abuse
Self-Improvement
Narcissistic Abuse
Gaslighting
Narcissism
Self-Care
Therapy
Childhood Trauma
Divorce
Emotional Healing
Parenting
Self-Doubt
Emotional Manipulation
Boundaries
Emotional Health

Covert narcissistic abuse crushes one’s soul. This podcast is devoted to understanding covert narcissistic abuse, its effect on the victims, and how to heal.

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Some of the hardest questions in a narcissistic relationship don't have easy answers — and "do I stay, or do I go" is one of them. In this episode, I'm joined by three women from our CNG community for a raw, honest community chat about life inside a ... more

When you finally speak your truth to a covert narcissist, you expect relief. What you don't expect is what comes next.

In this episode — the follow-up to Covert Narcissist Relationships: When You Can't Live the Lie Anymore — Renee Swanson walks thro... more

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Do you owe your toxic aging parent everything... or nothing? Clinical psychologist Dr. Lisa Stinson, author of The Obligation Myth: Rethinking What You Owe Your Difficult Aging Parent, joins the show to unpack what happens when a critical, dismissive... more

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There comes a point in a covert narcissistic relationship when you can no longer live the lie. Not a dramatic breaking point necessarily — sometimes it's a slow erosion that leaves you mentally exhausted, emotionally numb, and physically depleted. So... more

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Recent Guests

Anne Wintemute
Co-founder and CEO of Aimee Says
Aimee Says
Episode: Covert Abuse, Restricted Autonomy, and the AI Tool Aimee Says
Rachel Bernstein
Licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in cult intervention and reacclamation
Los Angeles-based clinician
Episode: The Cult of Two: How Covert Narcissists Use Mind Control in Relationships with Rachel Bernstein LMFT
Dr. Debi Silber
Founder and CEO of the PBT Institute; leading expert in betrayal recovery
PBT Institute
Episode: Why You Can’t Move On After Covert Narcissistic Abuse | Betrayal Trauma Explained with Dr. Debi Silber
Barb Nangle
Boundaries coach
Episode: Codependency, Trauma, and Why Boundaries Change Everything: Barb Nangle (Part 1)
Dee Dee
Guest sharing her personal experience with covert narcissism
Episode: Covert Narcissism: You’re Allowed to Pause Before Deciding to Stay or Leave
Jacquie Roar
Country rock star, mother, and survivor of a narcissistic relationship
Episode: Covert Narcissism in Dating: Jacquie Roar Shares Her Story of Survival and Healing
Sarma Melngailis
Author and former restaurateur known for the Netflix series *Bad Vegan*
Author of *The Girl With The Duck Tattoo*
Episode: From “Bad Vegan” to Truth Teller: Sarma Melngailis on Covert Narcissistic Abuse and Self-Discovery
Bree Sullivan-Howell
Family law attorney and author
Sullivan Law Firm
Episode: Crush Your Divorce, Protect Your Peace: A Conversation with Attorney & Author Bree Sullivan-Howell
Dr. Anthony Mazzella
A licensed clinical psychologist with over 25 years of experience specializing in trauma, attachment, and the emotional fallout of narcissistic abuse.
Creator and host of The Narcissism Decoder Podcast
Episode: Shame vs Self: The Invisible Wound Behind Narcissistic Traits, guest Dr. Anthony Mazzella

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4.8 out of 5 stars from 1.5k ratings
  • Finally some clarity and validation

    Renee has lived it and done the research. Just the realization that the problematic things that were going on in my relationship that I thought were unique to my ex were not. Other people experienced the same type of behavior and habits that I did and there’s a reason and a name for it and you are not alone. Narcissistic abuse can make you feel so isolated and even guilty for staying but this is a community that understands and provides not only support but the knowledge you need to deal with... more

    Audible
    5
    Cindy Gardner
    United States2 months ago
  • Good podcast !

    Podcast Addict
    5
    inga
    3 months ago
  • The illusion of choice

    Renee compassionately and articulately addresses the dark web of narcissistic abuse. This analogy to Dracula is brilliant! It unpacks the realities of living with a covert narcissist, while protecting victims from any blame or shame. She is a voice of clarity in an ever increasing crowded environment of narcissistic abuse.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hpytobefree
    United States3 months ago
  • Twilight zone

    I can’t tell you how many times over THREE DECADES, I said to myself and others “am I in the twilight zone!” The flipping the narrative, gaslighting, weaponised silence, cold distance when I was unwell or going out with friends (rarely!), and the charming offence to everyone else (until he reached his limit then withdrawn and sullen, obviously my fault because we stayed out too long). Sometimes I’m embarrassed it took me this long to escape and establish my own life, but most of the time I’m in... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MåğïçŠțǎṟ
    Australia3 months ago
  • Life changing

    Finding this podcast has truly changed my life and I feel so much lighter and empowered. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Monikalou
    United States3 months ago

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The show is praised for its clarity, depth, and supportive approach to healing from covert narcissistic abuse.
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Covert Abuse, Restricted Autonomy, and the AI Tool Aimee Says
Q: Where do you see Aimee in five years?
The guest envisions Aimee becoming ubiquitous and central to addressing coercive control globally, with broader access, accountability for behavior, and deeper integration into legal and protective processes over time.
Covert Abuse, Restricted Autonomy, and the AI Tool Aimee Says
Q: What differentiates Aimee Says from ChatGPT in practice?
Aimee Says uses specialized background processes, higher safety parameters, and privacy protections, including not training on user inputs and outputs, plus features like event tagging, bubble charts, timelines, and binders that are tailored to survivors of relationship abuse and legal prep.
Setting Boundaries After Narcissistic Abuse: What It Really Feels Like
Q: Was boundaries language present in your early relationships, or did you have to learn to voice them later?
Miranda explains that early on boundaries were not clearly expressed and only later, during the relationship and after, did she start articulating them, facing pushback that prompted growth.
Setting Boundaries After Narcissistic Abuse: What It Really Feels Like
Q: Did you guys know what boundaries were before entering your relationship, or was it something you learned later?
Both guests describe initially not fully understanding boundaries, then discovering them through healing, with many boundaries being learned and reinforced over time as they separated from the narcissistic dynamic.
Why You Can’t Move On After Covert Narcissistic Abuse | Betrayal Trauma Explained with Dr. Debi Silber
Q: What role does time play in healing betrayal?
Time alone does not heal betrayal; healing requires consistent effort, deliberate action, and engaging the right tools at the right stage to reduce the stress response and rebuild trust.

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