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The Covert Narcissism Podcast

Renee Swanson, Bleav
Covert Narcissism
Emotional Abuse
Mental Health
Healing
Relationships
Covert Narcissistic Abuse
Self-Improvement
Narcissistic Abuse
Gaslighting
Narcissism
Self-Care
Childhood Trauma
Therapy
Emotional Healing
Divorce
Parenting
Self-Doubt
Emotional Manipulation
Emotional Health
Family Dynamics

Covert narcissistic abuse crushes one’s soul. This podcast is devoted to understanding covert narcissistic abuse, its effect on the victims, and how to heal.

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Latest Episodes

Setting boundaries in a narcissistic relationship isn't just hard — it can feel impossible. In this Community Chat, Renee is joined by 2 ladies from the CNG community for an honest conversation about what boundaries really looked like in their relati... more

Covert narcissism and high control religion follow the same rulebook — and if you grew up in one before entering the other, this episode will explain why it all felt so familiar.

In this deeply personal episode, Renee Swanson shares her own experien... more

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When someone you love is in real, chronic pain — how do you set a boundary without feeling like a monster? This episode tackles one of the most complex and underaddressed dynamics in narcissistic abuse recovery: what happens when covert narcissism an... more

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Covert narcissistic abuse doesn't just hurt you — it rewires you. In this episode, Renee breaks down why your fight/flight response gradually turned into fawning, and why that isn't a character flaw — it's survival.

You'll learn why fight, flight, f... more

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Recent Guests

Rachel Bernstein
Licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in cult intervention and reacclamation
Los Angeles-based clinician
Episode: The Cult of Two: How Covert Narcissists Use Mind Control in Relationships with Rachel Bernstein LMFT
Dr. Debi Silber
Founder and CEO of the PBT Institute; leading expert in betrayal recovery
PBT Institute
Episode: Why You Can’t Move On After Covert Narcissistic Abuse | Betrayal Trauma Explained with Dr. Debi Silber
Barb Nangle
Coach and host/author focused on covert narcissism and boundary-building
Covert Narcissism Podcast
Episode: Healthy Boundaries After Trauma: Why You Lost Yourself in Covert Narcissistic Dynamics (Barb Nangle Part 2)
Dee Dee
Guest sharing her personal experience with covert narcissism
Episode: Covert Narcissism: You’re Allowed to Pause Before Deciding to Stay or Leave
Jacquie Roar
Country rock star, mother, and survivor of a narcissistic relationship
Episode: Covert Narcissism in Dating: Jacquie Roar Shares Her Story of Survival and Healing
Sarma Melngailis
Author and survivor of covert narcissistic abuse
The Girl With The Duck Tattoo
Episode: Covert Narcissism Unmasked: Sarma Melngailis on Manipulation, Awakening, and Resilience
Bree Sullivan-Howell
Family law attorney and author
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Episode: Crush Your Divorce, Protect Your Peace: A Conversation with Attorney & Author Bree Sullivan-Howell
Dr. Anthony Mazzella
A psychologist specializing in emotional and psychological treatment.
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Episode: Guilt vs Shame: The Emotional Crossroads That Defines Healing, guest Dr. Anthony Mazzella
Todd Rennebohm
Host of the Bunny Hugs and Mental Health podcast
Bunny Hugs and Mental Health
Episode: When Addiction, Trauma, and Narcissistic Traits Collide: A Candid Talk with Todd Rennebohm

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4.8 out of 5 stars from 1.5k ratings
  • Finally some clarity and validation

    Renee has lived it and done the research. Just the realization that the problematic things that were going on in my relationship that I thought were unique to my ex were not. Other people experienced the same type of behavior and habits that I did and there’s a reason and a name for it and you are not alone. Narcissistic abuse can make you feel so isolated and even guilty for staying but this is a community that understands and provides not only support but the knowledge you need to deal with... more

    Audible
    5
    Cindy Gardner
    United States2 months ago
  • Good podcast !

    Podcast Addict
    5
    inga
    2 months ago
  • The illusion of choice

    Renee compassionately and articulately addresses the dark web of narcissistic abuse. This analogy to Dracula is brilliant! It unpacks the realities of living with a covert narcissist, while protecting victims from any blame or shame. She is a voice of clarity in an ever increasing crowded environment of narcissistic abuse.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hpytobefree
    United States2 months ago
  • Twilight zone

    I can’t tell you how many times over THREE DECADES, I said to myself and others “am I in the twilight zone!” The flipping the narrative, gaslighting, weaponised silence, cold distance when I was unwell or going out with friends (rarely!), and the charming offence to everyone else (until he reached his limit then withdrawn and sullen, obviously my fault because we stayed out too long). Sometimes I’m embarrassed it took me this long to escape and establish my own life, but most of the time I’m in... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MåğïçŠțǎṟ
    Australia3 months ago
  • Life changing

    Finding this podcast has truly changed my life and I feel so much lighter and empowered. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Monikalou
    United States3 months ago

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The show is praised for its clarity, depth, and supportive approach to healing from covert narcissistic abuse.
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Why You Can’t Move On After Covert Narcissistic Abuse | Betrayal Trauma Explained with Dr. Debi Silber
Q: What role does time play in healing betrayal?
Time alone does not heal betrayal; healing requires consistent effort, deliberate action, and engaging the right tools at the right stage to reduce the stress response and rebuild trust.
Why You Can’t Move On After Covert Narcissistic Abuse | Betrayal Trauma Explained with Dr. Debi Silber
Q: Can you walk us through the five stages and why they matter?
The five stages provide a roadmap that aligns healing interventions with the listener's current physiological and emotional state, ensuring tools land properly and progress moves from shock to transformation.
Why You Can’t Move On After Covert Narcissistic Abuse | Betrayal Trauma Explained with Dr. Debi Silber
Q: How is betrayal different from other traumas?
Betrayal uniquely shatters trust and the sense of self, often leaving the person maintaining an outward appearance of normalcy while internally the life and self have collapsed; healing involves rebuilding both the life and the self.
Healthy Boundaries After Trauma: Why You Lost Yourself in Covert Narcissistic Dynamics (Barb Nangle Part 2)
Q: If you go back in time to a younger version of Barb, give yourself some advice. How old are you when you go back in time, and what do you tell yourself?
I would go back to age 11, when I realized I needed an income to assert independence, and I would tell my younger self that she is capable of creating stability from within, that external circumstances don't define her worth, and that she should start building boundaries and self-trust early on.
Codependency, Trauma, and Why Boundaries Change Everything: Barb Nangle (Part 1)
Q: How did you first realize boundaries were central to your recovery?
Barb explains that boundaries emerged gradually through 12-step work, self-reflection, and the realization that codependency was driving her behavior. She used personal experiences with a homeless man and later with family dynamics to illustrate how enforcing limits helped protect her well-being and catalyze deep healing.

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