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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin),... more

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On the Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash welcomed Julia Levy, a seasoned talent acquisition (TA) leader, job search strategist, HR tech advisor, and author of From Hi to Hired: Your Insider Guide to Internships.

Julia, recen... more

Zoom just bought AI interview intelligence darling BrightHire. Chad and Joel discuss why this is a savvy chess move to stop Microsoft Teams, and if the brand will really survive the deal. Moving on, Meta says your 2026 performance review is an AI rep... more

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Forget everything you know about leadership. In the latest episode with Chad and Joel, behavioral scientist Jon Levy tears down the myth of the lone genius and reveals why your "super chickens" might be sabotaging your entire operation.

Levy, author... more

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Recent Guests

Ben Sesser
Co-founder and CEO of BrightHire
BrightHire
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Jon Levy
Behavioral scientist and New York Times bestselling author
Episode: Team Intelligence w/ Jon Levy
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Recruitment leader in alternative and special education
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Episode: 5 Must Have Agents for TA w/ David Weinstock
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US Director of Marketing at Havas People
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Manager of Talent Acquisition at Humana
Humana
Episode: Chicken Cock Live
Malcolm Frank
Former president of Cognizant Digital, thought leader, and current CEO of Talent Genius.
Talent Genius
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Tiffany Anton
Sex Therapist, Masters of Social Work
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Elizabeth Grace Saunders
Time management coach, speaker, and bestselling author
Harvard Business Review
Episode: Surprise! Work-Life Balance is Stressing You Out
Matt Charney
CMO at employer.com with 20 years of experience in talent acquisition technologies
employer.com
Episode: AI Won’t Save Recruiting with Matt Charney

Hosts

Chad Sowash
Co-host of The Shred and The Chad & Cheese Podcast, bringing irreverent commentary and insights into HR and recruitment technology.
Joel Cheesman
Co-host of The Shred and The Chad & Cheese Podcast, known for insightful analysis and humor in discussions around talent acquisition.

Reviews

4.2 out of 5 stars from 159 ratings
  • Keep this at the top of your list

    There are so many podcasts that promise to cut through the nonsense - and then bring the nonsense. This one lives up to the promise, with biting humor and some of the most interesting and valuable commentary of anyone in the HR space.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Fhrishhxjsj
    United States2 months ago
  • Best Podcast in the HR space

    Thank you to Chad and Joel for inviting me onto their show. They are professionals in their field, which made it easy for me as a guest. I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation and am excited about the future of the TA space.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Matt Lavery
    United Statesa year ago
  • Best “keeping it real and raw” podcast on HR!

    If you’re in workplace management, this podcast is a no brainer and a must listen! Chad, Joel and their guests provide practical and valuable advice in a fun and real way and cover so many topics from Linkedin to employee retention to AI. They are consistently thought provoking and insightful. Don’t think about it - subscribe now.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Brooke Strauss
    United States2 years ago
  • New working title: Socialism and Cheese

    I give this podcast three out of five stars. That’s five stars for Joel. One star for Chad.

    And I only give Chad one star because every once in a while - and I gotta say these moments are very few and super far in between - he will do a market analysis that’s really good and insightful.

    However, 99% of the time Mr Sowash is spewing the mad ravings of a person who’s never actually run a business. He’s the smartest person in the industry - just ask him. In fact, this podcast made me realize th... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    PSU fan in South Carolina
    United States2 years ago
  • Bringing the heat!

    Joel and Chad are great. You will learn and laugh.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JPs Ghost
    United States2 years ago

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Many highlight the hosts' unique perspectives on industry trends, often finding value in their honest opinions and sarcasm.
Overall, listeners regard the podcast as a critical source for understanding the dynamics of talent acquisition with a comedic twist.
Some reviews indicate that while the content is often insightful, certain episodes may deviate into less relevant topics for the audience.
Listeners appreciate the engaging and humorous style of commentary, finding the insights on HR and recruiting to be both entertaining and informative.

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#224
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#149
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#165
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Talking Points

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Team Intelligence w/ Jon Levy
Q: What is the role of emotional intelligence in teams?
Jon suggests that emotional intelligence is crucial for team effectiveness, and teams with more women tend to perform better due to their higher emotional intelligence.
Chicken Cock Live
Q: What are Humana's strategies for handling a flood of AI responses and applicants?
Humana has developed a strategic front-end process to refine job descriptions and use questionnaires to filter applications before they reach recruiters.
Chicken Cock Live
Q: Is it really hard to implement change at Humana?
Change is a norm at Humana, and there's a culture of adaptability among leadership and teams.
Chicken Cock Live
Q: What's the bulk of hiring that you guys do?
The bulk of hiring at Humana is for call center individuals and field selling career agents, with an annual average of about 15,000 to 18,000 hires.
Chicken Cock Live
Q: Are you feeling a little bit too risky right now with AI or are you already like deep into it?
Humana is using AI internally with their tool, Strider, which is designed to keep information secure and assist in various HR processes.

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This podcast offers a candid and often humorous take on the world of recruiting, workforce technology, and talent management. Hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman engage in lively discussions, addressing current events, industry trends, and challenges faced by HR professionals. With a focus on what's happening in the employment sector, they share insights on topics such as AI in recruiting, the impact of technology on talent acquisition, and the evolving job market. Their distinctive blend of sarcasm and expertise makes complex topics accessible and entertaining, positioning the podcast as a must-listen for HR professionals and anyone involved in the labor market.

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