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The Business of Learning

Training Industry, Inc.
Learning and Development
Employee Engagement
Artificial Intelligence
Leadership Skills
Emotional Intelligence
Digital Fluency
Corporate Training
Training Industry
Learning Analytics
Leadership Development
Psychological Safety
Coaching
Training Management
Learning Reinforcement
Human-Centered Leadership
Women In Leadership
Training Measurement
Change Management
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
Gender Equality

The Business of Learning is produced by the team at TrainingIndustry.com, and focuses on the intersection of business performance and human capital development. Our guests are experts and innovators in organizational learning and development, and we highlight original research on trends and best practices in corporate training.

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What does learning transformation look like in practice, and how can L&D leaders move past simply delivering training to creating meaningful business and learner impact?

In this episode of The Business of Learning, brought to you by TalentLMS, Nick ... more

How can learning leaders prove the value of training in an environment where budgets are tight and business impact matters more than ever?

In this episode of The Business of Learning, brought to you by VPS, Paul Kent, director of functional developm... more

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Learning and development (L&D) is stepping into a more strategic role as organizations navigate constant change, evolving skill demands and the growing influence of artificial intelligence (AI). As expectations shift, how can L&D teams adapt?

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Frontline workers are the backbone of many organizations, and their learning needs require approaches that are both flexible and job-relevant. With limited time, inconsistent access to technology and constantly shifting demands, traditional training ... more

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Recent Guests

Nick Gonios
Vice President of Learning Transformation and Company Ambassador at TalentLMS
TalentLMS
Episode: The Business of Learning, Special Episode: Learning Transformation — the Science, Strategy and Tech Behind Real Impact
Paul Kent
Director of Functional Development at PepsiCo
PepsiCo
Episode: The Business of Learning, Episode 97: Measuring Training Impact and ROI
Melissa Loble
Chief Learning Officer
Instructure
Episode: The Business of Learning, Special Episode: A CLO’s Look at L&D in the Future of Work
JD Dillon
Advisor, speaker and author of The Frontline Enablement Playbook and The Modern Learning Ecosystem
JD Dillon (author and speaker)
Episode: The Business of Learning, Episode 96: Training the Frontline Workforce
Loren Sanders
Certified Professional in Training Management, VP of Learning Strategy and Consulting at WeLearn Learning Services
WeLearn Learning Services
Episode: The Business of Learning, Episode 95: Navigating Imposter Syndrome as an L&D Leader
Ruth Phillips
Training and Education Senior Specialist at Higginbotham
Higginbotham
Episode: The Business of Learning, Episode 95: Navigating Imposter Syndrome as an L&D Leader
Mikah Sellers
Bestselling author, workforce futurist, and enterprise transformation leader
Independent/Author
Episode: The Business of Learning, Episode 94: Developing Emotionally Intelligent Leaders in the Age of AI
Rashi Kakkar
Global Portfolio Leader, Leadership and Development at McKinsey's Leadership Center of Excellence
McKinsey
Episode: The Business of Learning, Episode 93: Applying Product Management Principles to Your L&D Strategy
Dr. Amy DuVernet
Certified professional in training management, Vice President of Learning Products at Training Industry
Training Industry
Episode: The Business of Learning, Bonus Episode: How to Advance Your L&D Career

Hosts

Sarah Gallo
Host and Senior/Co-host at Training Industry; focuses on the intersection of business performance and learning and development.
Michelle Eggleston-Schwartz
Editor-in-Chief/Senior Editor focusing on Training Industry content and industry trends.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 37 ratings
  • Poor Audio Quality

    I am really interested in this content, but the audio quality is so bad I can’t get through an episode. I think especially when we talk about training and instructional design, professionalism in the production needs to be considered or it damages the credibility of the content.

    I encourage you to invest in better sound equipment and editing if you’re serious about this podcast.

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    detroiting+
    United States4 years ago
  • Great Resource!

    If you want to learn of ways to enhance your organization this podcast is a must!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mjgrinder
    United States8 years ago

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Some episodes show variability in guest mix, but overall relevance to L&D and leadership remains high.
Guests and practical takeaways are a strong draw for listeners seeking actionable L&D strategies.
Content is praised as a valuable resource for learning and organizational improvement.
Audio quality is a common critique, with listeners calling for better production to match content quality.

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The Business of Learning, Special Episode: A CLO’s Look at L&D in the Future of Work
Q: Finally, how can listeners contact Melissa or learn more?
Listeners can email Melissa at instructure.com or reach out to Instructure for conversations about leveraging AI in learning and development.
The Business of Learning, Special Episode: A CLO’s Look at L&D in the Future of Work
Q: How can CLOs position themselves as strategic partners to other executives?
By aligning learning plans with business outcomes and strategy, speaking in leaders' languages, surfacing workforce data and trends, and presenting learning as a driver of customer outcomes and revenue. CLOs should proactively share insights and partner with leaders to inform strategic decisions.
The Business of Learning, Special Episode: A CLO’s Look at L&D in the Future of Work
Q: What skills or capabilities do CLOs need to develop to be successful in a technology-enabled environment?
CLOs should cultivate resilience, creativity, and a willingness to rethink long-held assumptions; they must understand how various technologies impact the workforce, partner with other executives, and stay curious. They should also develop strong business acumen and the ability to translate learning initiatives into language that other leaders understand and care about.
The Business of Learning, Special Episode: A CLO’s Look at L&D in the Future of Work
Q: What opportunities does AI present for CLOs to drive more business impact, and where do businesses still struggle to use AI effectively?
AI enables scalable, engaging learning experiences, rapid content creation and updates, and personalized learning paths at scale. It also supports insights into learner journeys and helps connect learning to business outcomes. Challenges remain around ensuring AI augments rather than replaces humans, and in effectively integrating AI with existing processes and metrics.
The Business of Learning, Special Episode: A CLO’s Look at L&D in the Future of Work
Q: As a CLO, what are some of the biggest shifts you're seeing in how L&D functions are expected to operate today compared to five or ten years ago?
Two major shifts stand out: first, how we develop employees and communities to handle a rapidly changing future, including leveraging AI appropriately and building resilience; second, how technology changes the learning experience and the ways employees engage with content, requiring learning leaders to design more personalized and embedded development processes.

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What is The Business of Learning about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on how learning and development intersect with business performance, featuring practitioners and researchers who share practical strategies for building skill, measuring impact, and aligning learning with executive priorities. Episodes cover AI's role in content and personalization, frontline enablement, leadership development, and change management, with a strong emphasis on applying L&D insights to real-world business outcomes. Notable angles include turning learning dashboards into strategic conversations, leveraging technology for scalable learning, and cultivating emotionally intelligent leaders in an AI-enabled workplace. A recurring strength is translating complex concepts into actionable steps for senior leaders and... more

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1. Nick Gonios
2. Paul Kent
3. Melissa Loble
4. JD Dillon
5. Loren Sanders
6. Ruth Phillips
7. Mikah Sellers
8. Rashi Kakkar

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