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The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia

Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni
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As former Stanford roommates and now business partners, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni share their experience as startup founders and the complexities of being young professionals—from financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking (ever been hit on through LinkedIn?). With exclusive access to top experts, they offer an inside look at their chaotic lives alongside career insights fro... more

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00:00 Growing Up When Careers Weren't an Option

01:12 Why She Went to India Instead of Getting Married

03:53 Starting Ms. Magazine... more

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How did Shelby Sapp go from selling rat poison door-to-door to becoming a 24-year-old founder making 8-figures per year? It's the same trick she uses to win arguments with her fiancé and pick the wedding venue she actually wants... In this episode, S... more

Barbara Corcoran is the founder of the Corcoran Group, one of New York's most iconic real estate brands, and a star investor on ABC's Shark Tank for 17 seasons. From being told she was stupid in school and her ex saying she'd never succeed without hi... more

Michael Rubin breaks down the truth about the White Party, why relationships matter more than people realize, and how he thinks about building rooms where power, business, and culture collide. He shares how Fanatics grew into a $40 billion company, w... more

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Recent Guests

Gloria Steinem
Journalist, activist, editor-in-chief of Ms. Magazine
Ms. Magazine
Episode: Gloria Steinem's Unreleased Interview: Life Lessons for the Next Generation
Shelby Sapp
Sales expert and entrepreneur
Self-employed/Sales coach
Episode: Why Most People Lose Arguments (Sales Tricks That Made Shelby Sapp $1M/Month at 24)
Barbara Corcoran
Real estate mogul, founder of The Corcoran Group, television personality
The Corcoran Group
Episode: Shark Tank Icon: Turning $1,000 to $1Billion! (ft. Barbara Corcoran)
Michael Rubin
CEO and founder involved in Fanatics, Reform Alliance, and various ventures
Fanatics; Reform Alliance
Episode: What Really Happens at Billionaires' Private Parties (Michael Rubin)
Chloe Shih
Forbes 30 Under 30 content creator; host of The Joy of Missing Out
Forbes / content creation
Episode: Dating 101 as an Ambitious Woman: How to Seduce Anyone (ft. Chloe Shih)
Anastasia Soare
Creator of Anastasia Beverly Hills
Anastasia Beverly Hills
Episode: Billionaire Makeup Artist Spills the Kardashians' Beauty Secrets & How Celebs get Perfect Faces
Alex Cooper
Founder/host of Call Her Daddy; CEO and founder of Unwell
Call Her Daddy; Unwell
Episode: Alex Cooper: The TRUTH About Call Her Daddy and my $100M+ Media Empire
Sahil Bloom
Author of The Five Types of Wealth and a businessman.
Author and Businessman
Episode: Money Expert: Quit Your 9-5 and Get Rich the Easy Way. This is What I Did. (ft. Sahil Bloom)
Codie Sanchez
Founder of Contrarian Thinking and former Wall Street investor, championing small businesses.
Contrarian Thinking
Episode: The Money Expert: 5 Businesses That Can Make You RICH (Without a 9-to-5!) ft. Codie Sanchez

Hosts

Phoebe Gates
Host of The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia
Sophia Kianni
Co-host of The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia

Reviews

4.2 out of 5 stars from 295 ratings
  • All is quiet on the frontal lobe

    Enough said in the title. No reporting standards. Puff pieces for billionaires like her father and the people she surrounds herself with. Better off reading a book.

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    Isadoorknob
    United States5 months ago
  • Shelby Sapp

    Air head Shelby slinging high-pressure sales tactics and seemingly targeting vulnerable females with debt-based purchases - potentially mislead students about the value or outcomes of these high-priced courses, then having them sell the very course they just bought (as "closers" for the academy itself)…. creating a MLM-like atmosphere where the primary "product" is the training on how to sell the training…. This was gross for a female lead podcast .

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    1
    Carli Jane
    Australia5 months ago
  • Lovee lovee loveee

    I love this Podcast channel so much!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Aprilia Ningrum
    Indonesia6 months ago
  • Almost great

    Clearly some interviews questions are prerecorded and they are not sitting down with guests in real time

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    EmWriggle
    United States6 months ago
  • The insights are worth the listen

    The business podcast every founder needs in their earbuds. It’s refreshingly honest, deeply relatable, and packed with the kind of conversations most entrepreneurs are too afraid to have out loud. Instead of glamorizing the grind, they talk about the real cost of building something meaningful and how to do it without losing yourself in the process. Every episode feels like a mix of therapy, strategy, and “I thought I was the only one.” If you’re building a business, navigating burnout, or trying... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Delgado Creative Group
    United States10 months ago

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Conversational style is authentic and empowering, with real talk on burnout and growth.
Interviews can be provocative and sometimes polarizing, but always focused on practical takeaways.
Guests offer candid, high-impact insights from diverse industries.

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Gloria Steinem's Unreleased Interview: Life Lessons for the Next Generation
Q: What legacy do you hope to leave for future generations of feminists?
Steinem emphasizes living in the moment, building spaces for ongoing collaboration, and leaving behind tangible structures like a women's building that fosters continued advocacy.
Gloria Steinem's Unreleased Interview: Life Lessons for the Next Generation
Q: How do you handle burnout after decades of activism, and what sustains your energy for this work?
Rest, friendship, and structured circles for conversation help maintain stamina, along with a sense of purpose and community support.
Gloria Steinem's Unreleased Interview: Life Lessons for the Next Generation
Q: How did you approach starting Ms. Magazine and funding a publication that wasn't beholden to advertisers?
She describes fundraising, creating a foundation to ensure independence, and the strategic choice to control the office and environment to support work and families.
Gloria Steinem's Unreleased Interview: Life Lessons for the Next Generation
Q: What did that early period of your life look like, and what were the biggest lessons you learned?
Steinem highlights the clash between traditional gender expectations and personal ambition, explaining how she pursued independence, traveled, and later built movements and institutions that supported women's leadership.
Shark Tank Icon: Turning $1,000 to $1Billion! (ft. Barbara Corcoran)
Q: What final advice would you give to your 20-year-old self?
Encourage taking action, recognizing capabilities, and embracing momentum over perfection; the key is to get started and iterate.

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This show centers on early-career founders and professionals navigating high-growth environments, burnout, and the psychology of building meaningful work. Episodes blend candid personal stories with practical business playbooks—from fundraising, branding, and leadership to relationships, mental health, and work-life boundaries. A notable throughline is amplifying women's leadership and gender dynamics in startups, media, and creative industries, often featuring high-profile guests who chart nontraditional paths to success. The format leans into unapologetic authenticity, tactical advice, and real-world lessons, making it valuable for listeners seeking motivation, concrete strategies, and a grounded perspective on modern entrepreneurship.

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1. Gloria Steinem
2. Shelby Sapp
3. Barbara Corcoran
4. Michael Rubin
5. Chloe Shih
6. Anastasia Soare
7. Alex Cooper
8. Sahil Bloom

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