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The Best People with Nicolle Wallace

MS NOW, Nicolle Wallace
Donald Trump
Democracy
Democratic Party
Election Integrity
MAGA Movement
Jeffrey Epstein
American Revolution
Sex Trafficking
MSNBC
Voting Rights
Trump Administration
Politics
Artificial Intelligence
Mental Health
Sexual Assault
Activism
Voter Disenfranchisement
Trump
Racism
Social Justice

Who are The Best People? They’re the most magnetic and engaging people in the room; the ones who know how to get that extra something out of every collaboration, connection, and endeavor. These people are the best at what they do and know how to bring out the best in others. Now, in an era of social and political upheaval, The Best People share lessons that we can all use. Listen as Nicolle Wallac... more

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Liz Oyer understands the transactional nature of the current Justice Department more than most. In March of 2025, she was fired from her position as the US Pardon Attorney for refusing to reinstate actor Mel Gibson’s gun rights. Since then, she’s tal... more

Bob Costas believes democracy is worth going to bat for. The legendary sportscaster and 12-time host of NBC’s Olympics coverage is no stranger to speaking up when the moment calls — which, as he tells Nicolle this week, is rare: 99.9% of the time he ... more

Ben Rhodes believes “we’ve lost the art of speaking to one another.” Amid the megaphone of social media sound bites and the ever-increasing coarseness of our politics, the speechwriter and former Obama Deputy National Security Advisor identifies some... more

Ken Burns thinks we’re going to make it. An award-winning documentarian, Ken’s celebrated career seeks to find humanity in our country’s imperfect story. He threads this idea through his documentaries about everything from our national pastime (“Base... more

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Recent Guests

Ben Rhodes
Former Obama speechwriter and deputy national security adviser; author and podcast co-host
All We Say book author; Pod Save the World co-host
Episode: Ben Rhodes: “The Best Speakers Build Movements”
Chris Hayes
Journalist, author of The Siren's Call; host of Why Is This Happening?
CNN/ MSNBC (media)
Episode: Chris Hayes Makes His Curiosity the Antidote to Anxiety
Sarah Longwell
Publisher of The Bulwark, author of How to Eat an Elephant, One Voter at a Time
The Bulwark
Episode: Sarah Longwell Knows the Cheat Code to Politics
Mikie Sherill
Governor of New Jersey
Governor of New Jersey
Episode: Gov. Mikie Sherrill Runs New Jersey Like a Busy Mom
Sherrilyn Ifill
Former head of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund; founding director of the 14th Amendment Center for Law and Democracy at Howard University
Howard University; NAACP Legal Defense Fund
Episode: Sherrilyn Ifill on Rebuilding Post-Trump: " It's Gotta Come Down to the Studs”
Kara Swisher
Journalist, tech/media commentator and podcast host
Pivot, Recode/Respective outlets mentioned
Episode: Kara Swisher on Death and Doritos
Robert De Niro
Iconic actor; guest on the episode
Actor
Episode: Best of the Best: Yes, Robert De Niro is Talking to You
Alex Wagner
Host of Runaway Country; frequent collaborator and journalist
Episode: Alex Wagner: Trump’s MAGA Base is "Mad at Daddy"
Julie K. Brown
Miami Herald investigative journalist
Miami Herald
Episode: Julie K. Brown Continues to Break Open the Epstein Story

Host

Nicolle Wallace
Host of The Best People; frequently engages in political commentary, civics, and democracy-focused conversations.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 3.5k ratings
  • Ben Rhodes

    We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable - changed: to be self-evident

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Che Block
    United States18 days ago
  • Ben Rhodes

    I love Ben Rhodes, his Pod, his Substack, your Best People interview. You’ve convinced me to buy the new book.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    from scottsdale
    United States19 days ago
  • A message for Ben Rhodes and Nicolle Wallace

    Jesse Welles. Jesse Welles is releasing a protest song every other day. And also, has written soul searching heartbreaking songs of hope and despair.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Another one 04
    United States20 days ago
  • Ken Burns!

    Such a meaningful podcast! I really enjoyed Ken’s view on life. Sharing optimism in a very hard time!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Shayrost
    United States25 days ago
  • Hope is alive!

    Thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    NanciNewton
    United Statesa month ago

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Quality storytelling combined with substantive policy insights.
Guest roster often blends politics, media, and culture for broad relevance.
Thoughtful, informed interviews with diverse perspectives.
Host brings calm, probing style that elevates guests.
High credibility and engagement; strong for listeners wanting context and optimism.

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Ben Rhodes: “The Best Speakers Build Movements”
Q: What advice would you give to current politicians trying to craft persuasive, long-form arguments?
They should aim for a coherent argument about corruption and reform that connects what is being done with why it matters, while presenting a hopeful vision that offers concrete paths forward rather than empty rhetoric.
Ben Rhodes: “The Best Speakers Build Movements”
Q: Can you share a behind-the-scenes moment about writing the race speech for Obama?
Obama stayed up overnight drafting the race speech, and Ben Rhodes highlights how the speech combined personal honesty with a strategy to address fears while emphasizing progress and inclusion, illustrating the importance of a well-crafted, authentic delivery.
Ben Rhodes: “The Best Speakers Build Movements”
Q: How do speeches build movements, and what makes a great mover from your perspective?
Great movers build movements by creating a shared story that resonates with diverse audiences, inviting people to see themselves as part of a larger project, and continually refining the message through listening to the crowd and adapting the narrative to reflect common aspirations.
Best of the Best: Yes, Robert De Niro is Talking to You
Q: How do you view the role of celebrities and public figures in political discourse and safety of democratic norms?
Public figures should speak out against threats to democracy, support peaceful civic action, and avoid enabling harassment or intimidation.
Best of the Best: Yes, Robert De Niro is Talking to You
Q: What would you say to those who supported Trump but are beginning to see the consequences of his leadership?
The guest emphasizes accountability, urges reflection on actions, and argues for standing up and engaging in civic processes to protect democracy.

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The show combines candid conversations with high-profile guests across politics, media, culture, and public life to unpack democracy, leadership, and civic resilience. Interview topics frequently center on governance, media accountability, voter engagement, and the role of storytelling in shaping public understanding. Notable strengths include thoughtful probing from a seasoned host, access to diverse perspectives from journalists, policymakers, civil rights leaders, and artists, and a consistent focus on practical ideas for defending democracy and fostering decency in challenging times. A standout vibe is its blend of hard-hitting policy discussions with personal narratives, making complex issues more relatable and actionable for listeners... more

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1. The Rachel Maddow Show
2. Deadline: White House
3. Main Justice
4. The Bulwark Podcast
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1. Ben Rhodes
2. Chris Hayes
3. Sarah Longwell
4. Mikie Sherill
5. Sherrilyn Ifill
6. Kara Swisher
7. Robert De Niro
8. Alex Wagner

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