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The Best People with Nicolle Wallace

MS NOW, Nicolle Wallace
Donald Trump
Democracy
Democratic Party
Artificial Intelligence
Election Integrity
MAGA Movement
Jeffrey Epstein
American Revolution
Trump
Sex Trafficking
MSNBC
Voting Rights
Trump Administration
Politics
Mental Health
Media
Sexual Assault
Activism
Voter Disenfranchisement
Department Of Justice

Who are The Best People? They’re the most magnetic and engaging people in the room; the ones who know how to get that extra something out of every collaboration, connection, and endeavor. These people are the best at what they do and know how to bring out the best in others. Now, in an era of social and political upheaval, The Best People share lessons that we can all use. Listen as Nicolle Wallac... more

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Aaron Sorkin is acutely aware of the criticism that his work is too optimistic — and with “The Social Reckoning,” he’s doubling down. “I just like when an audience feels two inches taller than they did when they walked in,” he tells Nicolle. The Osca... more

If Michael Lewis has a superpower, it’s the ability to make anything — even the most esoteric subject — interesting. Now, one of the country’s biggest nonfiction writers is tackling Elon Musk, DOGE, his attempts to gut the federal government — and th... more

Judge Esther Salas knows what it’s like to overcome a dark moment. On July 19th, 2020, the U.S. district judge suffered a devastating loss: a man who had been a plaintiff in her court years prior murdered her only son and severely injured her husband... more

Anthony Scaramucci has stories to tell. He joins Nicolle for this special episode as part of the new “Nicolle Wallace Presents: 92NY on MS NOW” series to discuss the roots of our political divisions: the uniquely American conditions that allowed Trum... more

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Recent Guests

Esther Salas
Federal District Judge
United States judiciary
Episode: Judge Esther Salas: This Country Has Given Us Too Much for Us to Abandon It
Pete Buttigieg
Former U.S. Secretary of Transportation
U.S. Government / Politics
Episode: Pete Buttigieg: We're in a "Make or Break" Moment
Ted Boutrous Jr.
Attorney representing outlets in press-freedom case
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
Episode: Ted Boutrous Jr.: “Today was a Feel-Good Moment for the First Amendment”
John Heilemann
Puck chief political columnist, host of Impolitic podcast
Puck
Episode: John Heilemann: Trump will Pay at the Ballot Box
Dan Harris
Author and host of 10% Happier; former ABC News anchor and correspondent
ABC News / 10% Happier
Episode: Dan Harris Wants Us to Stop Worrying Alone
Julia Curlee
Former NSC Director, CIA Analyst and PDB Briefer to Vice President Mike Pence
U.S. Intelligence Community
Episode: Julia Curlee: “This is my Country, Too.”
Chris Hayes
Host of All In, Why Is This Happening?, author of The Siren's Call
Episode: Best of The Best: Chris Hayes Makes His Curiosity the Antidote to Anxiety
Tim Miller
Former Republican campaign veteran, host of The Bulwark Podcast
The Bulwark
Episode: Tim Miller Thinks Trump is Losing His Grip
Timothy Snyder
Historian and author of On Tyranny and On Freedom
Yale University (as applicable from context)
Episode: Tim Snyder on the “Tiny Infinitesimal Amount of Courage” We Need

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Nicolle Wallace
Host of The Best People

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 4.3k ratings
  • Nothing new Pete

    Listen closely to the interview and you hear grand ideas about what the Democrats have to do but nothing about how to do. Once you consider the track record of the Democrats accomplishing next to nothing when they have controlled Congress in the past be ready for a blue wave of ineptitude!

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    Manitowoc, Wisconsin
    United States13 days ago
  • John Heilemann

    Enjoyed this discussion!!! AI agents have started their own lord of the flies story.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    hopeful for our nation
    United States19 days ago
  • Love and Joy

    I love this pod, Deadline Whitehouse,Impolitic… the two of you as individuals and as each other’s realms are part of my love and joy.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JoanSloo
    United States23 days ago
  • You asked how this will end

    Listened to the episode with John H today. You asked him how this ends for Trump and he identified several ways he could try to avoid leaving the WH. I think there is one more you may not want to consider: Ceaușescu.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Paul Headache
    United States25 days ago
  • Dan Harris

    Let him finish his thoughts.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Che Block
    United States25 days ago

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Ted Boutrous Jr.: “Today was a Feel-Good Moment for the First Amendment”
Q: Does it matter to you that the judge was a Trump appointee, and does that affect your view of the ruling?
Principles of the law matter more than who appointed the judge; the ruling aligns with established First Amendment precedents, reinforcing the rule of law regardless of political affiliation.
Ted Boutrous Jr.: “Today was a Feel-Good Moment for the First Amendment”
Q: What do you understand to have happened this morning in terms of compliance with the order?
There was initial uncertainty about compliance, but ultimately the order was followed and reporters were restored access, highlighting the importance of timely judicial orders in safeguarding press rights.
Ted Boutrous Jr.: “Today was a Feel-Good Moment for the First Amendment”
Q: What is your council in terms of navigating a White House that won't stop here?
Maintain aggressive, principled reporting while continuing to rely on legal arguments centered on due process and First Amendment protections to challenge future measures that could impede access or press rights.
Julia Curlee: “This is my Country, Too.”
Q: How has the current administration differed from the first term in how intelligence is treated?
She describes a shift toward using intelligence to support preferred narratives, with political considerations compromising the candid, evidence-based briefing process and diminishing the value of expert analysis.
Julia Curlee: “This is my Country, Too.”
Q: What was it like briefing Vice President Pence and working in that dynamics of the briefing room?
The briefing relationship was collaborative and demanding, built on mutual respect and trust, with a focus on delivering precise intelligence to inform critical decisions, while maintaining professional integrity even under pressure.

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The conversations center on democracy, the rule of law, and how institutions respond to polarization and misinformation. Episodes frequently feature high-profile guests—from lawmakers and former intelligence officials to historians, journalists, and political commentators—discussing voting rights, accountability, leadership under pressure, and the role of media in public discourse. Noteworthy angles include the tension between national security and civil liberties, the power of storytelling and narrative in politics, and a persistent focus on truth-telling as a civic duty. The format often blends personal experiences with policy analysis, aiming to illuminate practical paths for safeguarding democracy and encouraging civic engagement, while... more

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2. Pete Buttigieg
3. Ted Boutrous Jr.
4. John Heilemann
5. Dan Harris
6. Julia Curlee
7. Chris Hayes
8. Tim Miller

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