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The Argument

Jerusalem Demsas
Free Speech
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Inequality
Political Ideology
K-12 Education
Immigration
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Social Security
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College Campuses
Democracy
National Debt
Deficit
Taxation
First Amendment
Biden Administration
Trump Administration
Foundation For Individual Rights and Expression
Health Outcomes
Donald Trump

Has affirmative action gone too far? Should we abolish internet anonymity? Is liberal hypocrisy worth defending?Welcome to The Argument, a weekly podcast from Jerusalem Demsas and Matthew Yglesias, where two friends argue about politics, policy, and whatever else is on their minds. This is a debate show for people who want the nitty-gritty without the typical screaming matches or softball intervie... more

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Watch the official trailer for The Argument — a new podcast cohosted by Jerusalem Demsas and Matthew Yglesias.

Has affirmative action gone too far? Should we abolish internet anonymity? Is liberal hypocrisy worth defending?

Welcome to The Argument,... more

Are men naturally promiscuous and drawn to younger women? Are women obsessed with tall, older, rich men? Dating discourse is littered with pop evolutionary psychology that makes broad claims about how men and women are under a thin veneer of scientif... more

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Economists love to say there are no free lunches. Jennifer Doleac thinks criminal justice is one of the rare places where that’s wrong.

In this episode, host and Editor of The Argument, Jerusalem Demsas talks with Doleac—economist and author of The ... more

Trump didn’t just reshape the GOP—he may have ended what we used to call “the conservative movement.” 

New York Times columnist Ross Douthat joins host Jerusalem Demsas to map the new right: the collapse of fusionism, the rise of nationalism, and a ... more

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Recent Guests

Paul Eastwick
Professor of psychology at UC Davis; author of Bonded by Evolution
University of California, Davis
Episode: Stop Letting Instagram Explain Your Love Life -- The Science of Attraction
Jennifer Doleac
Economist, executive vice president of criminal justice at Arnold Ventures
Arnold Ventures
Episode: The Scientific Method Comes for Criminal Justice
Ross Douthat
New York Times opinion columnist
The New York Times
Episode: Ross Douthat on the End of Conservatism
Carolina Arteaga
Assistant Professor of Economics, University of Toronto
University of Toronto
Episode: Did the Opioid Epidemic Help Republicans Win?
Rita Koganzon
Associate professor and political theorist at UNC Chapel Hill
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Episode: Are Children People?
Chris Elmendorf
Law professor at the University of California, Davis; prominent housing policy researcher and commentator
University of California, Davis
Episode: Why NIMBYs Oppose Housing (with Chris Elmendorf)
Matthew Yglesias
Liberal politics and policy writer, guest on The Argument
The Argument
Episode: Matthew Yglesias on What Went Wrong with Modern Liberalism?
Gabriele Gratton
Professor of politics and economics at the University of New South Wales
University of New South Wales
Episode: How Liberal Elite Failure Fueled Far-Right Populism
Kelsey Piper
Staff writer at The Argument and education reporter
The Argument
Episode: America’s Reading Crisis: What Mississippi Got Right

Host

Jerusalem Demsas
Founder and editor of The Argument, Jerusalem Demsas hosts engaging conversations focused on a wide range of political, cultural, and societal issues, encouraging critical and unflinching debates among guests from varied backgrounds.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 58 ratings
  • Content Good, Delivery Poor

    As a fan of "The Argument" I was pleased to see this. After a hlaf dozen episodes, it is a delete for me. The interviewer/host style is so off-putting, to the point of distraction. This is clearly a platform for them to air their own opinions. It is not an interview as much as it is two parallel conversations that occasionally intersect. Also...slow.down. Learn from the pacing of Sam Harris, Ezra Klein, and Ross Douthat. Thoughtful, engaging, inviting. Pity, as this had such promise.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    iGreeley
    United Statesa month ago
  • Informative

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Philip
    3 months ago
  • Refreshing!

    I was hoping Jerusalem was going to do another podcast after “Good on Paper”! It’s so refreshing to hear an in depth discussion about important issues that is backed by research and includes potential solutions instead of just doom and gloom everyday!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HopelessAcademic
    United States4 months ago
  • Mixed

    I really like Demsas’ writing, worldview, and expertise. I appreciate and what she is trying to accomplish here, but I slightly struggle with her interview style. I’d be curious to see a minute or word count breakdown between her and her guests. I sometimes have the feeling that she is interviewing folks just to share her own perspectives/knowledge of the topic, rather than platforming her guests or creating space for a true “argument.” It makes me a little uncomfortable as the listener, and mak... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Avid_Listener_
    United States4 months ago
  • The Argument is Awesome

    Love everything you’ve done so far, really bringing vitality and dynamism and critical thinking back to a left-wing discourse that had been swallowed by Pod Save Echo Chamberism. One quibble: contrary to your latest guest’s assertions, I’ve lived in Berkeley for well over a decade and have never met any of the polyamorous rationalists that supposedly populate our cocktail parties… I would suggest that they are a tiny cohort overrepresented on substack and in the imaginations of frightened conser... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Bren Darrow
    United States5 months ago

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Listeners appreciate the in-depth discussions and the focus on research-based conversations about critical issues, feeling challenged to rethink their perceptions.
Overall, there is a positive reception to the intellectual rigor and diverse viewpoints presented, enhancing the podcast's reputation for thoughtful debate.
Some express discomfort with the host's interviewing style, indicating occasional concerns about balance in the conversation between host and guest perspectives.

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Why NIMBYs Oppose Housing (with Chris Elmendorf)
Q: What policy recommendations emerge from your findings?
Focus up-zoning and development in areas with existing apartment stock or commercial use, pursue transit-oriented development, and consider pre-approved designs to reduce discretionary hurdles; broader strategies include improving how developers engage with communities and considering larger-scale land assembly to better integrate new buildings aesthetically.
Why NIMBYs Oppose Housing (with Chris Elmendorf)
Q: How did aesthetics become central to housing attitudes in your research?
The team found that people's feelings toward cities and the visual fit of tall buildings with existing streetscapes are strongly linked to support for or opposition to housing, and that people react more to aesthetic context than to proximity alone; experiments manipulated visuals, awards for architects, and building types to show these effects.
Why NIMBYs Oppose Housing (with Chris Elmendorf)
Q: What does the political science literature say about housing opposition already?
There are two dominant explanations—the home-voter hypothesis and the NIMBY model—but in practice, opposition often blends these with concerns about parking, schools, and perceived developer greed; the theory is that people rely on heuristics and trusted messengers to form views on policy.
Matthew Yglesias on What Went Wrong with Modern Liberalism?
Q: What went wrong with modern liberalism and how did it become entangled with group-based thinking?
The guest argues that liberalism absorbed collectivist and identity-focused reasoning as a response to real injustices, but over time those group-based generalizations began to erode commitments to judging people as individuals, which can undermine universal rights and create new forms of exclusion.
Did the Opioid Epidemic Help Republicans Win?
Q: What are the core findings of your study regarding opioid exposure and Republican vote share in 2022?
Places with higher cancer mortality in the 1990s, driven by promotion of opioid pain medications, show higher Republican vote shares in 2022, with effects accumulating over time across House, governor, and presidential races; the impact is larger in places with greater exposure to the epidemic and not easily explained by attractiveness to incumbents or other shocks.

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1. Paul Eastwick
2. Jennifer Doleac
3. Ross Douthat
4. Carolina Arteaga
5. Rita Koganzon
6. Chris Elmendorf
7. Matthew Yglesias
8. Gabriele Gratton

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