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Plain English with Derek Thompson

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Housing Market
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Longtime Atlantic tech, culture and political writer Derek Thompson cuts through all the noise surrounding the big questions and headlines that matter to you in his new podcast Plain English. Watch Derek and guests engage the news with clear viewpoints and memorable takeaways. New episodes drop every Tuesday and Friday, and if you've got a topic you want discussed, shoot us an email at plainenglis... more

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No matter how you look at it, Netflix is having a pretty bad year. Stock is down, growth has slowed, the company recently laid off roughly 1,000 people, and it dismissed its chief content officer and its head of film. After a decade of explosive grow... more

What exactly is effective altruism? Beginning in the early 2010s as a nerdy way to rethink the most cost-effective charity, the movement has since grown into a broader philosophy for thinking about just about everything in our lives, from the careers... more

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The answer to whether AI is a bubble comes down to supply and demand. Is there enough demand to justify the enormous investment in chips and data centers? If businesses keep paying more for AI every year, the debt is manageable and the buildout will ... more

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AI can analyze anything, write anything, solve almost any puzzle. But struggle strengthens our brains and sharpens our minds ... and removing it entirely may come with a dire cost.

Derek Thompson explores the paradoxes of AI with Ethan Mollick, whos... more

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Recent Guests

Ara Kharazian
Lead economist at Ramp and head of Ramp Economics Lab
Ramp
Episode: The AI Story Wall Street Doesn't Want to Hear
Ethan Mollick
Economic sociologist, professor and author of Co-Existence
Wharton
Episode: AI Is Smarter Than Ever. So Where’s the Revolution?
Josh Harder
U.S. representative from California and co-chair of the bipartisan Build America Caucus
U.S. House of Representatives
Episode: How Abundance Has Failed and Succeeded
Adam Grant
Wharton organizational psychologist, author of Vibe
Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania
Episode: America’s Crisis of Social Connection, With Adam Grant
Ashish Jha
Physician and public health expert, former White House COVID-19 advisor
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Episode: Russia’s Plague Mystery and the Coming Age of Bioweapons
Kevin Roose
Author of The AGI Chronicles, journalist
New York Magazine / author
Episode: The Bitter Rivalries Behind the Race to Build Superintelligence
Nate Silver
Founder of FiveThirtyEight, expert forecaster
FiveThirtyEight
Episode: Why the Midterms Suddenly Look So Bad for Republicans
Chuck Klosterman
Author of Rock, Rock Around the Clock; cultural critic
Episode: Why Things Become Popular, with Chuck Klosterman
Arvind Narayanan
Professor of computer science at Princeton University; co-author of AI as Normal Technology framework
Princeton University
Episode: The Single Smartest Case Against AI Doom

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Derek Thompson
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Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 8.3k ratings
  • Glass half empty

    Gosh, this is an upbeat podcast.

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    batwood14
    United States21 days ago
  • Above the fray is overrated.

    No doubt like many listeners of this podcast, I keep up with AI developments and the likes of Sam Altman, Dario Amodei and Demis Hassabis. But enough already. It’s a shame really: The host is so talented but he appears to waste his talents on various subject matter a bit narrow in scope. Why be so esoteric when there are so many current abuses committed against this country to choose from for material? My advice to Derek would be to stop nibbling around the edges of academia and do deep and hone... more

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    3
    Elisabeth-Ann
    United States21 days ago
  • Don’t!

    Do NOT pander to PedOTUS Trump and call it superintelligence! Geez!

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    DoctorDaveC
    United States24 days ago
  • Love the pod just feedback

    For the episode on using AI at universities - defence of dissertation absolutely disadvantages those who have challenges with oral expression but may be brilliant writers. As a psychologist this is not uncommon.

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    MattandJ
    Australia2 months ago
  • good but…

    this is normally a very enjoyable and informative podcast, but it fell far short with the most recent episode featuring Liaquat Ahamed for several reasons, the most jarring of which was when he referred to the winners of the 1870-71 war with France as Germany, when in fact, Germany did not exist at that time. The conflict in question war was fought between France and Prussia. He also referred to the reparations exacted by Germany as starting in 1870 when the war did not finish for another year. ... more

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    lairdofoceanpark
    United States2 months ago

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Overall, praised for intelligent discourse and depth, with some criticism of pacing and host interruptions.
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Thoughtful, high-signal interviews with strong guests.

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AI Is Smarter Than Ever. So Where’s the Revolution?
Q: How do you think about the right way of balancing the virtue of learning at college and the virtue of colleges to serve as a pre-professional institution so that people graduate smart, but also with some kind of facility with the technology they'll likely use in their first job?
Mollick distinguishes between using AI as a shortcut, which can undermine learning, and using it as a tutor, which can support learning. He recommends incorporating AI outside and inside class while keeping active, in-person learning and assessments without laptops.
AI Is Smarter Than Ever. So Where’s the Revolution?
Q: If AI's capabilities are growing so fast, growing exponentially, why are the real-world consequences of AI growth moving along so slowly?
Mollick says AI is already producing productivity gains, but organizational change is slow because companies are difficult to reconfigure and current gains often benefit individuals rather than coordinated groups. He expects this to be a short-term gap.
How Abundance Has Failed and Succeeded
Q: How does the permitting reform bill deal with data centers, since an enormous share of the projected increase in electricity is coming from demand for artificial intelligence?
Harder says data centers would pay both the incremental cost of new generation and an average share of grid costs. In return, they could connect to the grid faster, supporting grid investment and cleaner energy use.
How Abundance Has Failed and Succeeded
Q: What is the 21st Century Road to Housing Act, what does it do, and why does it matter?
Harder describes it as the first major federal housing legislation in more than 50 years. It reduces barriers to infill housing, rewards communities that build more, and reforms manufactured housing rules, while leaving financing and construction costs as challenges.
The AI Story Wall Street Doesn't Want to Hear
Q: One of the takes I've heard a lot about people who believe that AI is going to prove to be a bubble is that the companies that are paying thousands of dollars per employee on AI models are not yet seeing any kind of clear ROI return on investment. What are you seeing in terms of the ROI picture?
Kharazian says AI's economic effects are meaningful but concentrated in particular sectors. Ramp research found that businesses using AI intensively, including coding agents and multiple models, grew headcount by 10% over two years, while low-intensity adopters saw no difference from the control group.

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Thoughtful, data-driven conversations across politics, technology, culture, and history drive current events with nuance. Episodes frequently feature researchers, academics, policy experts, and journalists who unpack complex topics—ranging from cannabis policy and literacy trends to AI, drones, foreign policy, and aging—with clear takeaways and practical implications for readers, listeners, and decision-makers. The show stands out for its rigorous guest selection, ability to connect deep scholarship with timely public discourse, and a willingness to challenge conventional wisdom while staying accessible to a broad audience.

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7. Nate Silver
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