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Follow The Yellow Brick Road

Emma Rainville & Mitch Barham
E-Commerce
Direct Response Marketing
Marketing
FTC
Entrepreneurship
Federal Trade Commission
Consumer Protection
Customer Retention
Leadership
Business Growth
Marketing Compliance
FTC Regulations
Operational Excellence
Business Operations
Testimonials
Automation
Legal Compliance
Marketing Strategies
Visionary Entrepreneurs
Strategic Planning

Follow The Yellow Brick Road is the podcast for founders who want a clear path to turning clicks into customers. Hosted by Emma Rainville (Founder of Shockwave Solutions, Wizard of Ops) and Mitch Barham (Founder of Barham Marketing, Wizard of Ads), this show breaks down what actually drives growth — from acquisition to conversion to operations. Emma brings the systems and execution behind business... more

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In this episode of Follow the Yellow Brick Road, Emma Rainville, Wizard of Ops, and Mitch Barham, Wizard of Ads, break down the Emerald City Myth: when a business looks successful because revenue is high, but behind the curtain it may be one bad mont... more

In this episode of Follow the Yellow Brick Road, Emma Rainville, Wizard of Ops, and Mitch Barham, Wizard of Ads, break down the Scarecrow Problem: when your ads are smart, but your business isn’t.

They talk about what happens when a business has str... more

In this episode of Follow the Yellow Brick Road, Emma Rainville, Wizard of Ops, and Mitch Barham, Wizard of Ads, answer the most common questions business owners are asking about AI agents.

They break down what an AI agent actually is, how it’s diff... more

In this episode of Follow the Yellow Brick Road, Emma Rainville, Wizard of Ops, and Mitch Barham, Wizard of Ads, break down one of the biggest mistakes businesses are making with AI: building agents before building the systems those agents need to op... more

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Recent Guests

Mitch Barham
Guest discussing Teams, Remote Teams or In-House Teams
Episode: Team Stability: What Actually Keeps People (and Clients)
Austin Armstrong
AI influencer and expert.
Episode: How to Set Up OpenClaw SAFELY in 5 Minutes (Don't Install It Wrong) - featuring Austin Armstrong
Ron Lynch
Mentor and experienced marketer
Episode: 2025 Favorites: How to Flip NO's into a YES, Customer Retention, and TiktTok Tactics
Tiago Richard
Expert in direct response marketing focused on customer retention
Shockwave
Episode: How to Reduce Churn, Prevent Refunds, and Keep Subscribers for Life
Keenya Kelly
Video marketing and social media strategist
Episode: From Zero to $3M: How to Monetize TikTok Without Going Viral
Tiago Sanguinetti
An operator focused on bringing clarity to company systems and operations.
Shockwave
Episode: How to Build an Employee Onboarding System That Multiplies Performance
Arafat Saka
Director of Marketing Operations
Shockwave
Episode: How to Build Bulletproof Marketing Ops with Saka
Gordon Reese
Legal expert with insights on FTC regulations
Episode: The FTC’s Next Target: Are Direct Response Advertisers About to Get Wrecked? | Marketing on Trial
Nick Verge
Copywriter and marketing psychology expert for direct response marketers, e-commerce sellers and influencers
Episode: Why People Say NO (And How to Flip That Into a YES Instantly)

Host

Emma Rainville
Founder of Shockwave Solutions; co-host focusing on systems, execution, and scalable operations behind growth.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 9 ratings
  • Emma was an absolute joy hosting the conversation

    I'm so incredibly grateful to Emma and Travis for making an exception and hosting the podcast virtually. Emma was an absolute joy hosting the conversation and made me feel very at ease. I love the format of the show as well, very conversational! Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Robin Waite, Fearless Business
    United Kingdom2 years ago

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Production feels collaborative and authentic, not overly polished.
Hosts keep discussions fast-paced and easy to follow, with a supportive vibe.
Conversations are practical and actionable with clear takeaways.
Guest mix is varied and credible, offering real-world tactics.
The show blends tactical marketing with operational discipline, useful for listeners.

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Apple Podcasts
#244
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Chatbot vs AI Agent: What’s the Real Difference?
Q: Can I build AI agents without coding?
Yes. You interact with the system in natural language, provide the necessary context and permissions, and the platform creates and configures the agent to perform desired tasks without traditional coding.
Chatbot vs AI Agent: What’s the Real Difference?
Q: What is the difference between an AI agent and a chatbot?
An AI agent can perform executable tasks and interface with tools to complete jobs, while a chatbot (like ChatGPT) mainly retrieves information or assists with conversation; agents act autonomously to complete actions, not just respond to queries.
Chatbot vs AI Agent: What’s the Real Difference?
Q: How do I build an AI agent from scratch?
Provide the agent with a company framework, brand voice, and SOPs, then train it on examples and tasks so it can operate within an orchestration layer and execute jobs without requiring coding. You can start by asking a language model to outline steps, then progressively build from there.
Hiring an Agency? This Is Where You’ll Get Burned.
Q: How often are you going to be meeting, talking about strategy and reporting?
Clients should ask about the frequency of meetings and the reporting process, which can significantly impact the collaboration effectiveness.
Hiring an Agency? This Is Where You’ll Get Burned.
Q: How do you choose the clients you work with and the products you know best?
Mitch explained that he is very picky about the clients he works with, focusing on industries he understands and ensuring that they have the right operational structure.

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This show targets founders and growth-focused operators who want practical, actionable strategies to turn traffic into revenue, with a strong emphasis on systems, operations, and high-velocity marketing. Episodes center on scaling responsibly—covering customer experience, automation, team dynamics, and the interplay between paid ads and organic growth. A standout angle is blending hands-on operational discipline with aggressive acquisition tactics, plus practical templates and resources that listeners can implement quickly. The format is conversational and data-driven, often featuring real-world examples, mentor-style guidance, and rapid-fire frameworks that readers can apply to e-commerce and service businesses alike.

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1. Mitch Barham
2. Austin Armstrong
3. Ron Lynch
4. Tiago Richard
5. Keenya Kelly
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7. Arafat Saka
8. Gordon Reese

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