
CEOs trust us, the media tolerates us, and our mothers think we know Oprah. The Smart in Public podcast, hosted by Katie Boysen and Katie Dufficy, shares business, career, and life experiences through the world of two Public Relations professionals just trying to keep their sh*t together.
| Publishes | Twice monthly | Episodes | 67 | Founded | 2 years ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Categories | BusinessSociety & Culture | |||

In this episode of Smart in Public, we sit down with Jenny Bavinger, VP of Marketing Communications at Sapphire Ventures, to talk about founders, why PR is a service business that can't be easily productized, the signals that tell a company it's time... more
AI video is everywhere, and in this episode, The Katies welcome Joe Ciarallo, Head of US Communications at Synthesia, to pull back the curtain on what it takes to build a brand in one of the most scrutinized corners of enterprise AI. We get into the ... more
What happens when your company moves so fast that your communications strategy is already outdated by the time you ship it?
That's the reality at Lovable — the AI-native company that's making software creation accessible to anyone, anywhere. And the... more
If you've been quietly doom-scrolling job boards and wondering if it's just you — it's not. The communications job market is genuinely hard right now, and nobody's being fully honest about why and what to do.
Daniel Méndez Aróstica built #CommsJobs ... more
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Great to look at issues through the insider perspective of PR gurus Katie and Katie. Getting a hot take on the topic of the moment and how it could have been managed better is something we can all learn from.
I love the open and delightful banter. It feels like I am having a cup of tea (or wine) with my besties and learning at the same time.
Smart in Public, hosted by the formidable duo of Katie Boysen and Katie Dufficy, is a refreshing addition to the podcasting world. Now, this isn't just another business podcast—it’s a delightful blend of sharp wit, honest reflections, and the kind of practical insights that one often wishes for but rarely finds. The two Katies, seasoned public relations professionals, tackle everything from managing high-pressure PR teams to building relationships with executives. They speak from the heart, yet ... more
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Smart in Public centers on practical public relations, corporate storytelling, and career navigation for communications pros in tech, startups, and media. Across episodes, the conversation frequently threads AI-enabled communication, founder storytelling, crisis planning, and the evolving agency landscape, with a tilt toward actionable tactics, open networking, and human-centered decision making. Noteworthy is the show's balance of veteran industry insight and accessible, candid storytelling, plus a strong emphasis on how AI tools intersect with ethics, trust, and relationship-building in modern PR. This mix makes it useful for listeners evaluating how to lead client programs, scale comms operations, or break into executive-level storytelli... more
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Recent guests on Smart in Public include:
1. Jenny Bavinger
2. Joe Ciarallo
3. Senka Hadzimuratovic
4. Daniel Méndez Aróstica
5. Michelle Masek
6. Nadia Jamshidi
7. Michael O'Brien
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