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CEOs trust us, the media tolerates us, and our mothers think we know Oprah. The Smart in Public podcast, hosted by Katie Boysen and Katie Dufficy, shares business, career, and life experiences through the world of two Public Relations professionals just trying to keep their sh*t together.

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In the spirit of Season 3's unofficial theme of 'are we helping or hurting', The Katies take to Reddit to uncover some of the questions that are on our fellow comm's folks minds. Did we give some good advice? Hopefully! Did we have fun pretending lik... more

What happens when one of tech's sharpest communications minds crosses over to the investment side? Ashley Mayer, co-founder and GP at Coalition, made the  leap from leading comms at some of the most talked-about startups to backing them and the Katie... more

We're back, baby. Season 3 kicks off with what we're now calling a Katie & Katie Special. We felt like the distinction was necessary considering how many guests we have coming your way, so sit back, relax, and listen to us argue about localizing even... more

Hello from down unda! We're on the same time zone for the first time for a year and wanted to take a quick moment to wrap up Season 2 with a gratitude bow. Thank you to everyone for tuning and chiming in -- we still can't believe that our little pass... more

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Recent Guests

Cath Anderson
Chief Communications Officer with two decades of experience in corporate communications and marketing.
Planned Parenthood, former executive at Anthropic
Episode: 27 - Turn storytelling programs into bottom line drivers with Cath Anderson
Roberto Munoz
CEO of Munoz Communications, expert in communications and consulting
Munoz Communications
Episode: 26 - Enter your communications consultant era w/ Roberto Munoz, CEO Munoz Communications
Alexandra Whiting
Head of Content at The Memo
The Memo
Episode: 25 - Craft audience-first brand stories w/ Alexandra Whiting, Head of Content at The Memo
Cheryl Sanclemente
Chief Communications Officer at Lattice
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Episode: 23 - From finance to tech: how Cheryl Sanclemente​, CCO at Lattice, ​took her career from strength to strength
Allie Cefalo
Marketing Partner at Kleiner Perkins
Kleiner Perkins
Episode: 22 - Unlock the Secrets of VC Communications with Allie Cefalo, Marketing Partner at Kleiner Perkins
Corey duBrowa
CEO of Burson and former global CEO of BCW with extensive experience in leading communications teams.
Burson
Episode: 21 - Master the message, the messenger, and the platform with Burson CEO Corey duBrowa
Brooke Kruger
Founder of KC Partners
KC Partners
Episode: 20 - Land your dream job with Brooke Kruger, Founder of KC Partners
Tarla Lambert-Patel
Co-founder of Agenda Media and Editor-in-Chief of Women's Agenda
Women's Agenda
Episode: 16 - Interview with Tarla Lambert-Patel, co-founder of Agenda Media & Editor-in-Chief of Women's Agenda
Matt Fairhurst
Co-founder and CEO of Skedulo
Skedulo
Episode: 12 - Your exec comms playbook told through the eyes of a founder w/ Matt Fairhurst, Co-founder & CEO of Skedulo

Hosts

Katie Boysen
Co-host with extensive experience in public relations, sharing insights into business, career, and social issues.
Katie Dufficy
Co-host specializing in public relations with a focus on career experiences and insights for professionals.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 36 ratings
  • The insider lens

    Great to look at issues through the insider perspective of PR gurus Katie and Katie. Getting a hot take on the topic of the moment and how it could have been managed better is something we can all learn from.

    I love the open and delightful banter. It feels like I am having a cup of tea (or wine) with my besties and learning at the same time.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pippi 71
    Australiaa year ago
  • A refreshing addition to the podcasting world

    Smart in Public, hosted by the formidable duo of Katie Boysen and Katie Dufficy, is a refreshing addition to the podcasting world. Now, this isn't just another business podcast—it’s a delightful blend of sharp wit, honest reflections, and the kind of practical insights that one often wishes for but rarely finds. The two Katies, seasoned public relations professionals, tackle everything from managing high-pressure PR teams to building relationships with executives. They speak from the heart, yet ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    andrew_sf
    Australiaa year ago

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Listeners appreciate the blend of humor and insight, finding the discussions both relatable and informative.
The hosts are commended for their conversational style, making complex topics accessible to a broader audience.
Audience feedback highlights the podcast's relevance to current issues in PR, particularly around social justice and corporate responsibility.

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8 - Interview with David Swan, Technology Editor for The Age and Sydney Morning Herald
Q: What gets you across the line when PR people make an invite for travel?
Quality and quantity of stories are crucial. If multiple stories can come from one invite, it's worth considering. The presence of additional interview opportunities enhances the value.
8 - Interview with David Swan, Technology Editor for The Age and Sydney Morning Herald
Q: What does a day in the life look like for you now? What does that sort of modern newsroom look like?
David shares about the challenges of managing the influx of PR pitches and how the ratio of stories from pitches to original stories he pitches has changed, emphasizing the importance of maintaining relationships with PR professionals.
9 - Future-proof your agency PR strategy with Mandy Galmes, Managing Director & Managing Partner ANZ for Sefiani Agency
Q: What advice would you give to in-house PR people that would help them help their agencies succeed?
Be nice, invite agencies in earlier, clearly define roles, and have open conversations about problems.
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Q: Would you take on a different type of comms role, like go into internal comms or something like that under the umbrella?
Yes, I would be open to different roles within comms, including internal comms and chief of staff positions, as the skills overlap significantly.
6 - Interview with Pip Marlow, NED - formerly CEO of Salesforce A/NZ, Suncorp Executive, and MD of Microsoft Australia
Q: How important do you think that your comms person or comms team is?
Pip believes it is crucial for the success of any organization and emphasizes the importance of an open relationship between comms and execs.

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This podcast provides insights into the world of public relations, featuring engaging discussions on a range of topics relevant to both professionals and curious listeners. The hosts tackle current events, industry trends, and personal anecdotes, all while maintaining a light-hearted and relatable tone. Common themes include corporate communications, diversity and inclusion in the workplace, the evolving role of public relations, and the intersections of personal and professional experiences.

A unique aspect of the show is the hosts' candid reflections on both their successes and challenges within the industry. Listeners are likely to appreciate the blend of humor, practical advice, and insider knowledge, making it accessible not only for ... more

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1. Cath Anderson
2. Roberto Munoz
3. Alexandra Whiting
4. Cheryl Sanclemente
5. Allie Cefalo
6. Corey duBrowa
7. Brooke Kruger
8. Tarla Lambert-Patel

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