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Rule of 40

Utiliti Group
Rule Of 40
Sales
Profitability
Tokenization
Founder-Led Sales
Forecasting
TWIYO Capital & Advisory
Liquidity
Digital Assets Laws Australia
Australia
Product Market Fit
Go-To-Market

Rule of 40 is the podcast for founders and investors who are serious about scaling technology companies onto the global stage. Hosted by Jason Serda and Josh Ayscough, it focuses on what actually drives outcomes at scale. Execution, not ideas, is where companies win or lose.

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The day after this conversation was recorded, the government blinked: on 18 June it announced targeted CGT carve-outs for innovative startups, following more than 1,000 submissions to a Senate inquiry, one of the largest responses to a budget measure... more

Australia has passed a regulated framework for tokenised assets before the United States has, and the Reserve Bank's Project Acacia has already tested it on live use cases with the major banks.

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Alan Burt is Executive Chairman of R... more

Growth can feel like momentum. But momentum without financial control is not steering — it is a crash waiting to happen. Ryan Barnes, Managing Partner of TWIYO Capital & Advisory, has worked at CFO level with more than 100 businesses across sectors. ... more

Australian enterprise deals over $1 million in total contract value now involve upwards of 10 buyers and a sales cycle approaching 300 days. If your sales motion still depends on the founder being in every room, you are building a ceiling, not a comp... more

In this first episode of Rule of 40, Jason Serda and Josh Ayscough introduce the podcast and unpack the "misunderstood middle", the critical stage where startups must evolve into real, scalable businesses.

They explore how today's tougher funding e... more

In this episode of Rule of 40, Jason Serda and Josh Ayscough get practical on one of the most important questions for scale-up founders: how do you know if your business is actually heading in the right direction?

They make the case that undiscipl... more

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Recent Guests

Sam Maher
Founder and CEO of GovTech, Coalition of Australia's Innovation and Investment Future
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Episode: Australia's CGT changes. What Founders and Investors Do Now. | Ep. 6
Cheryl Mack
CEO and co-founder of Aussie Angels
Aussie Angels
Episode: Australia's CGT changes. What Founders and Investors Do Now. | Ep. 6
Alan Burt
Executive Chairman of Redbelly Networks, co-founder and general partner of Beachhead Ventures Capital
Redbelly Networks; Beachhead Ventures Capital
Episode: Australia Just Made the First Move on Tokenisation | Ep. 5
Ryan Barnes
Managing partner at TWIYO Capital & Advisory
TWIYO Capital & Advisory
Episode: Profit in Months, Not Years with Ryan Barnes | Ep.4
Jonathan Staff
Chief Revenue Officer of ASE Tech; Executive Director of WinDC
ASE Tech; WinDC
Episode: Beyond Founder-Led Sales: Why Your First Sales Hire Keeps Failing

Hosts

Josh Ayscough
Host of Rule of 40, co-host, involved in scaling technology companies.
Jason Serda
Host of Rule of 40, co-host, focuses on investment and scale in tech.

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Stop Building "Great Little Businesses" | Episode 1
Q: What scaling metric outside of Rule of Forty should founders pay attention to?
Founders should build a real business with profits on the horizon and ensure they have a solid foundation and the right people around them to sustain growth, rather than chasing growth at all costs.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Rule of 40

What is Rule of 40 about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on how to scale technology companies, prioritizing execution and measurable outcomes over mere ideas. Episodes frequently feature founders, investors, and operators discussing practical frameworks for growth, profitability, and capital formation in high-growth tech ecosystems. Common threads include balancing growth with discipline (as seen through metrics like the Rule of 40), navigating regulatory and policy landscapes, and evolving go-to-market and funding strategies for early-stage to scale-up ventures. A standout aspect is the mix of hands-on finance, strategy, and policy perspectives from practitioners and investors, which helps listeners assess real-world paths to scale and sustainable advantage.

Noteworthy for pot... more

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