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The Contrarians with Adam and Adir

Adam Schwab and Adir Shiffman
Australia
Luxury Escapes
Atlassian
Tesla
Vanta
Qantas
Temple & Webster
Canva
Netwealth
Cettire
Covid-19
Openai
NVIDIA
Netflix
Work From Home
Chemist Warehouse
Artificial Intelligence
Jellycat
Guzman Y Gomez
Inflation

Get the fearless truth about start-ups and corporate Australia from guys that give you the hard facts, not the company line. Hear Luxury Escapes co-founder Adam Schwab and Catapult Sports Exec Chairman Adir Shiffman provide the inside word on the biggest stories in business with a contrarian take from the guys who sit on both sides of the table. New episodes dropping weekly.

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The guys deep dive into the horrific changes to CGT and how it destroys young people’s chance at wealth, negative gearing out for the young and in for Boomers, how SBF became the world’s best investor, are fibre optics going to kill Droneshield, Hami... more

Happy Saturday! We’re back with another Q&A episode of the show.

This week you asked:

🤷‍♂️ My boss is working from home but my team is in the office.

🏠 Do we feel sympathy for young people not feeling financially secure?

💭 Dealing with los... more

The guys discuss Cochlear's horrific profit downgrade, Firmus IPO hopes up in smoke (for now), self driving to challenge air travel, battery technology goes large and Uber and Expedia get close.

00:00 - Blackbird's Sunrise Start Up Event

13:40 - Fi... more

Happy Saturday! We’re back with another Q&A episode of the show.

This week you asked:

🧱 Are classic trades the most AI proof career path?

🗂️ Taking on more responsibility at work with no extra compensation

🚨 Donald Trump’s recent assassina... more

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Episode: Shark Tank Star and VC Steve Baxter, Mythos, Will Quantum Kill Encryption, Pope Double Standards, Data Centres, Glydways and Hermes
Scott Middleton
Australian investor described as the Australia's Warren Buffett
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Episode: Special Bonus: Carma Deep Dive with special guest, Scott Middleton
Ward Williams
Guest who asked about Australian identity
Episode: Ask Us Anything: Should fuel price surges mean people work from home? + What does it mean to be Australian?
Dennis Friedman
Guest who asked about disruption vs. tradition
Episode: Ask Us Anything: Should fuel price surges mean people work from home? + What does it mean to be Australian?
Perry Williams
Colleague at The Australian, co-author on a biography of Mike Cannon-Brooks and Scott Farquhar
The Australian
Episode: Rich List, Atlassian Crash, Seek Horrors, Operation Epic Fury, Biennial Disgrace, Councils Behaving Badly and Adir’s Great and Terrible Calls
Adrian Rima
Listener guest, asked about GYG pricing and market expectations
Listener
Episode: Ask Us Anything: The dwindling radio industry + How did the market get GYG so wrong?
Chris Janz
Founder of Capital Brief, former Fairfax executive
Capital Brief
Episode: Eucalyptus Sale Deep Dive, is Waymo an Uber killer, Winnings’ Winnings, Victoria becomes an official Crime State, Adir Visits Lakemba and special guest business publishing legend, Chris Janz
Joe Aston
Business journalist known for his controversial takes.
Rampart
Episode: Special guest Joe Aston joins, Winter Olympics Sexism, the Rise and Fall of Luke Sayers, Corporate Travel Management and Temple & Webster Crash
Jessy Wu
Venture capitalist and entrepreneur who closely follows SXSW events
Episode: Jellycat Deep Dive, Atlassian Share Price Crash, Kings Counsel Ransom, Writers Festival Monstrosity, SXSW Sydney Dies and Adam’s Passport Bliss

Hosts

Adam Schwab
Co-founder of Luxury Escapes and co-host known for providing insights into the business world from an entrepreneurial perspective.
Adir Shiffman
Executive Chairman of Catapult Sports and co-host, offering a contrarian perspective on business strategies and trends.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 208 ratings
  • Great content - delivery needs work

    Great content.

    But why do the hosts keep talking over each other so much? I had wanted to hear joe Aston talk but he could hardly get a word in!

    And I get that you are both well connected but the conversation descends into a **** measuring contest too often on who knows whom/what etc.

    Please interrupt each other less and keep up the great content.

    The content is really quite interesting but the delivery is grating.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Trmta
    Australia10 months ago
  • A Must Listen for Aussie Entrepreneurs

    A must-listen for anyone in the Australian business scene. With a strong but not exclusive focus on Australian industries, Adam and Adir bring the unique perspective only founders and operators can offer. Their broad points of view, grounded in real-world experiences, offer insights you won’t get from traditional media. They cover everything from startups to larger legacy businesses, from private to publicly listed companies, and across a wide range of industries — from tech to retail. The in-de... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Robyward
    Australia2 years ago
  • Fantastic business insight

    Adam and Adir have a great synergy and provide a unique insight into a wide range of businesses and industries along with their views on many current issues happening both locally and internationally. Well worth listening.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    rodking
    Australia2 years ago
  • Behind the scenes

    Love the insights Adam and Adir provide to the business world, always educational, thought provoking and insightful. I also enjoy the friendly banter these guys have. Thanks A&A!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DC on the GC
    Australia2 years ago
  • :)

    :)

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    coolperson59
    Australia2 years ago

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Ask Us Anything: Trump’s latest assassination attempt + Are classic trades the most reliable career path?
Q: How should one think about a potential leadership change or political risk in today's climate?
The hosts acknowledge increased polarization but emphasize that systemic structures tend to persist; readers should stay informed, evaluate risks, and consider how leadership decisions impact long-term stability rather than reacting to every shock.
Ask Us Anything: Trump’s latest assassination attempt + Are classic trades the most reliable career path?
Q: Steph asks how to handle workload increases and whether to push for a raise or test the market.
Three paths are discussed: push for a raise, consider switching to a higher-paying role elsewhere and having current employer match, or test the market while signaling loyalty and intent to stay if compensated fairly; negotiating with a market-informed offer is highlighted as a smart tactic.
Ask Us Anything: Trump’s latest assassination attempt + Are classic trades the most reliable career path?
Q: What should I tell my son about pursuing trades versus more AI-susceptible paths?
The speakers suggest focusing on individual strengths and interests, recognizing that AI will reshape many roles but may not instantly replace trades; continuous learning and adaptability are key for long-term viability.
Shark Tank Star and VC Steve Baxter, Mythos, Will Quantum Kill Encryption, Pope Double Standards, Data Centres, Glydways and Hermes
Q: What makes data centers such a pivotal area for investment and risk in the near term?
The panel discusses the enormous scale, energy requirements, and strategic importance of data centers, noting how capital-intensive builds and the shift toward compute factories shape both opportunity and risk in the sector.
Shark Tank Star and VC Steve Baxter, Mythos, Will Quantum Kill Encryption, Pope Double Standards, Data Centres, Glydways and Hermes
Q: Can you summarize your career path and what shaped your approach to venture investing?
Steve Baxter walks through his journey from early Aussie ISPs to Pipe Networks, then Google, and finally VC, highlighting how each step informed a pragmatic, contrarian, value-driven approach to building and backing infrastructure and tech companies.

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2. Scott Middleton
3. Ward Williams
4. Dennis Friedman
5. Perry Williams
6. Adrian Rima
7. Chris Janz
8. Joe Aston

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