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Co-hosts Matt Chittim, Lindsey Hein, and Peter Bromka interview every 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials Qualifier along with a wide-ranging group of industry professionals in preparation for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles.

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Just one year removed from competing at the NCAA Championships, Murphy Smith has already established himself as one of the brightest young marathoners in the United States. After debuting with a 2:11 at the California International Marathon, Murphy r... more

Robert Miranda's marathon breakthrough didn't happen overnight. After narrowly missing his goals in Chicago, withdrawing from the 2024 Olympic Marathon Trials, and learning some hard lessons through self-coaching, he returned to Boston this spring to... more

Charlie Sweeney joins us after a personal best at the Boston Marathon to talk about the next chapter of his marathon career and why he believes he's just getting started. The former Division II walk-on turned CU Boulder standout reflects on his uncon... more

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Robert Miranda
Elite marathon runner and member of the BAA High Performance Team
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Episode: Inside Robert Miranda's Breakthrough 2:09 Marathon
Charlie Sweeney
Elite marathoner, CU Boulder alum, professional runner
Independent athlete; trained with Elise Cranny and David Roche
Episode: From Walk-On to Boston PR: Charlie Sweeney's Road to the Trials
Rachel Schilkowsky
Elite marathon runner, OTQ achiever
Green Racing Project
Episode: How Rachel Schilkowsky Finally Solved the Marathon
Lily Anderson
Athlete, Brooklyn Track Club member
Brooklyn Track Club
Episode: Lily Anderson: From Teaching in Brooklyn Classrooms to Brooklyn Track Club & an OTQ
Andrew Colley
Professional runner, three-time Team USA member, 2026 US 25K champion
Professional running
Episode: Andrew Colley Knows His Best Marathon Is Still Ahead
Alex Burks
Marathon runner, Olympic Trials qualifier
Independent athlete
Episode: Alex Burks: Three Breakthroughs at the Same Course, a 2:15 OTQ, and Why Running Is Still Fun
Esteban Trujillo
Elite marathoner, master competitor, interview guest
Independent athlete
Episode: Esteban Trujillo: A Decade Away from Running, Then a 2:14 Marathon at Age 40
Erin McDonald
232 marathoner, 4-year break return, CIM top performer
Peninsula Distance Club
Episode: Erin McDonald: Rediscovering Running and a 2:32 Marathon Breakthrough
Ryan Smith
Marathon debutant who won Vermont City Marathon; Division III athlete
Bates College alumnus, professional runner
Episode: Ryan Smith: The Finish Line Reaction Everyone Was Talking About

Hosts

Lindsey Hein
Co-host of Road to the Trials, engages with guest
Matt Chittim
Host of Road to the Trials, discusses the guest and format
Peter Bromka
Co-host of Road to the Trials, facilitates discussion

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 245 ratings
  • Interviews that give you an insight into what it takes to make it into the marathon Olympic trials

    This show does a great job to connect the audience to elite amateur and professional runners. You hear about who they are and what has brought them to qualifying for the USA Marathon Olympics Trails!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cory the MS Science Teacher
    United States3 months ago
  • Full on running nerd and loving it!

    This is a must listen and will make watching the 2028 trials race even more exciting! Love getting to know each of the athletes on their journeys and a personal level too.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    StephSpeedstickSandoval
    United States10 months ago
  • Do we really need another running podcast?

    One that follows runners digging deep for the next few years to qualify for the ‘28 Olympic marathon trials. Men, women, elites, subelites, anyone and everyone.

    Absolutely we need this, love it already!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    stkiley
    United Statesa year ago
  • Lots of Good Nuggets

    I have been enjoying this series so much. Every person interviewed so far, whether really famous in the running world, or simply a talented running trying to hit this big goal, has offered such thoughtful insights into running toward your goals. Kudos to the interviewers for bringing out such great stories and responses. I am absolutely addicted to this series.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Roberta K94
    United Statesa year ago
  • Love hearing from a variety of runners

    Matt, Peter, & Lindsey do a great job speaking with experts and runners leading up to the Olympic Trials. Love their dynamic and the conversations flow so well!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    quigsmsu354
    United Statesa year ago

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Fans note the balanced mix of elite and sub-elite guests as a major strength.

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How Rachel Schilkowsky Finally Solved the Marathon
Q: What factors led to your success at Vermont City Marathon after previous setbacks?
A combination of careful fueling, GI management, and a more relaxed, flexible training approach, plus strategic race-day pacing and leveraging a pacer teammate, helped convert potential into an OTQ performance.
Esteban Trujillo: A Decade Away from Running, Then a 2:14 Marathon at Age 40
Q: What does the two-year outlook look like for your path to the 2028 Trials?
The plan involves maintaining a sustainable high-mileage foundation, reiterating patience, prioritizing recovery, and continuing to target big marathons and fast halves that build toward the Trials, with a mindset that anything is possible if I stay healthy and focused.
Esteban Trujillo: A Decade Away from Running, Then a 2:14 Marathon at Age 40
Q: What influenced your decision to switch coaches and adopt Brad Hudson's program?
I sought guidance after years of self-coaching, recognizing I needed a plan from someone with experience coaching Olympians; Hudson's track record and his willingness to tailor plans for an almost-40 athlete aligned with my goals and gave me confidence to push for an Olympic Trials target.
Esteban Trujillo: A Decade Away from Running, Then a 2:14 Marathon at Age 40
Q: How did you approach Mesa and the first half of Boston in terms of strategy?
I went into both races with aggressive first halves and a plan to test my limits, but I had to manage the second half carefully, especially at Boston where the pace and hills demanded smart pacing to avoid blowing up; my aim was to learn and improve while staying within my target ranges.
Jax Siddall’s Marathon Debut Win: From 6th Grade Teacher to Eugene Marathon Win
Q: How did you balance the teaching job with elite training and travel for races?
I built a strict weekly routine around double T days and long runs, planned meals, and tried to keep teaching responsibilities separate while leveraging support from a coach who understood the schedule.

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What is Road to the Trials about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A deep-dive interview series focused on Olympic Trials qualifiers and the wider endurance running ecosystem. Episodes center on training cycles, race strategy, fueling, injury recovery, and balancing demanding lifestyles with elite goals. Expect candid conversations with athletes across road, trail, and marathon disciplines, plus coaching insights, documentary storytelling takes, and sponsor integrations that highlight the realities of pursuing Trials qualification in the lead-up to a Los Angeles Games. Noteworthy is the show's willingness to explore non-linear paths to OTQ—injuries, pivots between road and trail, motherhood, and long-term mindset—making it valuable for listeners who want practical training ideas as well as personal resilie... more

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2. Charlie Sweeney
3. Rachel Schilkowsky
4. Lily Anderson
5. Andrew Colley
6. Alex Burks
7. Esteban Trujillo
8. Erin McDonald

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