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Co-hosts Matt Chittim, Lindsey Hein, and Peter Bromka interview every 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials Qualifier along with a wide-ranging group of industry professionals in preparation for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles.

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Andrew Storer, the filmmaker behind one of the most impactful running series in recent memory, joins Road to the Trials to share how he built a documentary-style look into elite marathoning from the ground up.

After being laid off and pushed into f... more

Abby Shoemaker joins Road to the Trials after a standout performance at the Napa Valley Marathon, where she ran 2:35 to secure her Olympic Trials Qualifying time and set a course record.

Abby shares her unconventional path to the marathon, from runn... more

Rebecca Schmitt joins Road to the Trials after a breakout performance at the California International Marathon, where she placed sixth overall and ran 2:28 to secure her Olympic Trials qualifier. Balancing a full-time career as an engineer with high-... more

Head coach Sam Butler joins Road to the Trials to share how he’s building one of the most exciting emerging marathon groups in the U.S. through Gazelle Elite. Based in Michigan and supported by Gazelle Sports and adidas, the team has quickly gained m... more

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Sam Butler
Head coach Gazelle Elite
Gazelle Elite Adidas
Episode: Coach Sam Butler: Inside Gazelle Elite and Building OTQ Athletes from the Ground Up
JP Flavin
Runner, Hansons-Brooks Project
Hansons-Brooks Project
Episode: JP Flavin: From College Underdog to 2:09 Marathoner
Matt Lenehan
Three-time Olympic Trials Qualifier, sponsored by Satisfy Running
Satisfy Running
Episode: Matt Lenehan: Three-Time OTQ Qualifier on Consistency, Community, and Keeping Running Fun
Emily Saul
Sports psychologist
esaulmovement.com / esaulmovement@gmail.com
Episode: Emily Saul on the Mind Behind the Marathon Miles
Kristoffer Mugrage
Elite marathoner, OTQ competitor
Independent athlete
Episode: Kristoffer Mugrage: 2:14:59 at The Marathon Project and the 130-Mile-Week Road Back to Boston
Macy McRowe
Elite marathon runner featured on the episode
Independent athlete / Cleveland-based group
Episode: Macy McRowe: The 2:36 Marathon Built on Cross Training and Two Runs a Week
Zach Kreft
Professional distance runner and OTQ hopeful
Independent athlete
Episode: Zach Kreft: Five Marathons in 2025 and the Fueling and Mindset That Unlocked 2:13
Felicia Pasadyn
Olympic Trials marathon qualifier, self-coached athlete
Med student (NYU), aspiring radiologist
Episode: Felicia Pasadyn: From D1 Swimmer to a Self-Coached 2:35 at New York
Ethan Shuley
Special guest, American marathoner
Episode: Ethan Shuley Races into American History with a 2:07 in Osaka

Hosts

Matt Chittim
Host and co-host of Road to the Trials, focusing on profiling Olympic Trials qualifiers and discussing training and race insights.
Lindsey Hein
Co-host of Road to the Trials; engages guests with running-focused conversations and industry perspectives.
Peter Bromka
Co-host; interviewer and storyteller, explores athletes' journeys, storytelling, and the road to Trials.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 214 ratings
  • Full on running nerd and loving it!

    This is a must listen and will make watching the 2028 trials race even more exciting! Love getting to know each of the athletes on their journeys and a personal level too.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    StephSpeedstickSandoval
    United States6 months ago
  • Do we really need another running podcast?

    One that follows runners digging deep for the next few years to qualify for the ‘28 Olympic marathon trials. Men, women, elites, subelites, anyone and everyone.

    Absolutely we need this, love it already!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    stkiley
    United States7 months ago
  • Lots of Good Nuggets

    I have been enjoying this series so much. Every person interviewed so far, whether really famous in the running world, or simply a talented running trying to hit this big goal, has offered such thoughtful insights into running toward your goals. Kudos to the interviewers for bringing out such great stories and responses. I am absolutely addicted to this series.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Roberta K94
    United States7 months ago
  • Love hearing from a variety of runners

    Matt, Peter, & Lindsey do a great job speaking with experts and runners leading up to the Olympic Trials. Love their dynamic and the conversations flow so well!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    quigsmsu354
    United States7 months ago
  • Leaving us hanging?

    Did everything fall of the road? We got introduced to some stories to invest in and then…?!?

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    dani Xtreme
    United States3 years ago

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Fans praise the deep, running-focused conversations and the range of guests from elites to OTQ hopefuls.
The show is appreciated for its hosting dynamic and engaging interview style; some episodes have left listeners wanting more pacing and episode continuity.
Listeners value the behind-the-scenes feel and actionable training insights for preparing for Trials.

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How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#38
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Apple Podcasts
#7
Canada/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#166
United Kingdom/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#136
Germany/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#148
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#149
Australia/Sports/Running

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

JP Flavin: From College Underdog to 2:09 Marathoner
Q: What was your approach the day of the Trials and how much of it was collaborative with coaches versus your own decision?
He aimed for five-flat effort initially, acknowledging it could be slower if heat and humidity increased, and he decided to race more aggressively as the race progressed, with a strong focus on not overthinking the lead-up and trusting his training.
Coach Sam Butler: Inside Gazelle Elite and Building OTQ Athletes from the Ground Up
Q: What are the key characteristics you look for when onboarding new athletes?
I look for athletes who can communicate openly about their goals, demonstrate life-centric planning, and align with the training structure, ensuring they have the buy-in and capacity to handle the workload.
Coach Sam Butler: Inside Gazelle Elite and Building OTQ Athletes from the Ground Up
Q: What is Gazelle Elite as a group and what's the connection to the store or the larger perspective?
Gazelle Elite operates with a focus on individualized training within a supportive ecosystem; the program is tied to Gazelle Sports for access to gear and community support, with Adidas providing footwear and travel support to athletes.
Felicia Pasadyn: From D1 Swimmer to a Self-Coached 2:35 at New York
Q: Tell us about the transition from swimming to running and how you decided to start training as a runner.
Felicia explains how she moved from a long swimming career to running, starting with a gradual transition after college and leveraging her endurance and discipline from swimming to build a sustainable, self-coached running routine.
Macy McRowe: The 2:36 Marathon Built on Cross Training and Two Runs a Week
Q: What are your race-day strategies for Indy and future goals?
At Indy, she relied on pacing from Pacers and then trusted her own pacing plan to stay on target, with the ultimate goal of qualifying for the Olympics and exploring further possibilities beyond Trials.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Road to the Trials

What is Road to the Trials about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show focuses on profiling every 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials qualifier, plus a broader look at running, training, sponsorship, and industry trends in the lead-up to Los Angeles. Episodes typically feature in-depth conversations with elite and sub-elite runners, coaches, and industry colleagues, exploring training philosophies, race tactics, recovery, motivation, sponsorship dynamics, and the evolving landscape of the sport. A notable strength is the blend of athlete-centric storytelling with practical insights for listeners aiming to improve performance, qualify for big races, or understand how the Trials ecosystem operates. The format tends to mix interview depth with scene-setting context from the hosts, delivering a narrative-rich r... more

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1. Sam Butler
2. JP Flavin
3. Matt Lenehan
4. Emily Saul
5. Kristoffer Mugrage
6. Macy McRowe
7. Zach Kreft
8. Felicia Pasadyn

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