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How is the use of artificial intelligence (AI) shaping our human experience? Kimberly Nevala ponders the reality of AI with a diverse group of innovators, advocates and data scientists. Ethics and uncertainty. Automation and art. Work, politics and culture. In real life and online. Contemplate AI’s impact, for better and worse. All presentations represent the opinions of the presenter and do not r... more

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Henrik Skaug Sætra considers the basis of democracy, the nature of politics, the tilt toward digital sovereignty and what role AI plays in our collective human society.

Henrik and Kimberly discuss AI’s impact on human comprehension and communication... more

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Dr. Rebecca Portnoff generates awareness of the threat landscape, enablers, challenges and solutions to the complex but addressable issue of online child sexual abuse.  

Rebecca and Kimberly discuss trends in online child sexual abuse; pillars of im... more

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Hiwot Tesfaye disputes the notion of AI givers and takers, challenges innovation as an import, highlights untapped global potential, and charts a more inclusive course.

Hiwot and Kimberly discuss the two camps myth of inclusivity; finding innovation... more

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Dietmar Offenhuber reflects on synthetic data’s break from reality, relates meaning to material use, and embraces data as a speculative and often non-digital artifact.  

Dietmar and Kimberly discuss data as a representation of reality; divorcing con... more

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Pia Lauritzen questions our use of questions, the nature of humanity, the premise of AGI, the essence of tech, if humans can be optimized and why thinking is required.

Pia and Kimberly discuss the function of questions, curiosity as a basic human fe... more

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Michael Strange has a healthy appreciation for complexity, diagnoses hype as antithetical to innovation and prescribes an interdisciplinary approach to making AI well.  

Michael and Kimberly discuss whether AI is good for healthcare; healthcare as a... more

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Andriy Burkov talks down dishonest hype and sets realistic expectations for when LLMs, if properly and critically applied, are useful. Although maybe not as AI agents.  

Andriy and Kimberly discuss how he uses LLMs as an author; LLMs as unapologetic... more

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Ravit Dotan, PhD asserts that beneficial AI adoption requires clarity of purpose, good judgment, ethical leadership, and making responsibility integral to innovation.

Ravit and Kimberly discuss the philosophy of science; why all algorithms incorpora... more

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Henrik Skaug Sætra
Associate Professor at the University of Oslo and CEO of Pathways.eu
University of Oslo, Pathways.eu
Episode: The Problem of Democracy with Henrik Skaug Sætra
Dr. Rebecca Portnoff
VP of Data Science at Thorn, focused on child safety and prevention of sexual abuse
Thorn
Episode: Generating Safety Not Abuse with Dr. Rebecca Portnoff
Pia Lauritzen
Philosopher, tech inventor, and Thinkers50 nominee
Qvest
Episode: A Question of Humanity with Pia Lauritzen, PhD
Andriy Burkov
A prominent figure in artificial intelligence and author of influential books on machine learning.
Episode: LLMs Are Useful Liars with Andriy Burkov
Ravit Dotan
An AI ethics researcher and governance advisor.
Women in AI (finalist for the Responsible AI Leader of the Year)
Episode: Reframing Responsible AI with Ravit Dotan
Dr. Ash Watson
Senior lecturer and fellow at the University of New South Wales, and senior research fellow at the ARCS Centre of Excellence for Automated Decision-Making and Society.
University of New South Wales
Episode: Stories We Tech with Dr. Ash Watson
Robert Mahari
Doctor of Law and Philosophy at Harvard Law School and MIT Media Lab
Harvard Law School and MIT Media Lab
Episode: Regulating Addictive AI with Robert Mahari
Phaedra Boinodiris
Global consulting leader in trustworthy AI at IBM and author of AI for the Rest of Us
IBM
Episode: AI Literacy for All with Phaedra Boinodiris
Ryan Carrier
Executive Director of ForHumanity and President of ForHumanity Europe
ForHumanity
Episode: Auditing AI with Ryan Carrier

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Kimberly Nevala
Host engaging with a variety of guests to discuss the implications and impacts of artificial intelligence on society.

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A Question of Humanity with Pia Lauritzen, PhD
Q: Can you talk a little bit about why asking the question of why we think is different than asking the question of how we think?
By exploring why human beings think, we realize that machines cannot think because they lack the intrinsic motivations and problems that inspire human thought.
LLMs Are Useful Liars with Andriy Burkov
Q: What do organizations need to be mindful of when evaluating AI agents?
Organizations should recognize that many AI agents merely claim to be agents without true capabilities. They should assess whether the AI can achieve its intended goals based on its training data's robustness and relevance to the task at hand.
LLMs Are Useful Liars with Andriy Burkov
Q: How do you think about the expert paradox?
The expert paradox suggests that to recognize when LLMs are confidently making false claims, one must have prior knowledge about the topic; otherwise, one risks accepting erroneous information. This limits the effectiveness of LLMs in business workflows, especially for those who lack expertise.
Regulating Addictive AI with Robert Mahari
Q: What do you mean by the allure of AI companions being in the submission itself?
Mahari explains that AI systems can be tailored to users' desires in a way no human could, creating a companionship experience that could lead to unhealthy attachment.
Regulating Addictive AI with Robert Mahari
Q: How did you go from chemical engineering into law?
Robert Mahari shares his complex journey, transitioning from chemical engineering to law by looking at the intersection of technology, law, and business after experiencing a lack of technology leverage in law.

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The content explores the multifaceted impact of artificial intelligence on various aspects of human life, encompassing topics such as ethics, governance, and the socio-political implications of AI technologies. A diverse range of innovators, advocates, and data scientists contribute insights on pressing issues, from child safety in the digital age to the intersection of AI and healthcare. Noteworthy discussions include the challenges posed by generative AI, the importance of inclusivity in AI design, and the philosophical implications of AI's integration into society. The podcast stands out for its commitment to ethical considerations and practical implications, making it a valuable resource for listeners interested in the real-world applic... more

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