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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO
Donald Trump
Democratic Party
Kamala Harris
Republican Party
Joe Biden
Trump Administration
Ukraine
Russia
Congress
2024 Election
Israel
2024 Presidential Election
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Volodymyr Zelenskyy
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United States
Government Shutdown
Biden Administration
Iran
Immigration

The Conversation with POLITICO’s Dasha Burns is a fresh take on the traditional Sunday show format, going beyond conventional wisdom and short sound bites to broaden the political conversation. Each week, Dasha will sit down with one of the most compelling – and sometimes unexpected – power players in Washington and beyond for a real discussion about how they are shaping the current moment.

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At the 2026 NATO Summit in Ankara, Secretary General Mark Rutte joins Dasha to discuss NATO's historic defense spending overhaul, Russia's war in Ukraine, Greenland, President Trump's demands of the alliance, and whether NATO can withstand growing qu... more

Interior Secretary Doug Burgum, Gov. Kelly Armstrong (R-N.D.) and Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) join POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at the Little Missouri Saloon in Medora for a conversation about the newly opened Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library, wh... more

As America marks 250 years since its founding, award-winning documentarian Ken Burns joins Dasha to reflect on what history can teach us about this political moment.

In this wide-ranging interview, Burns discusses what lawmakers misunderstand about ... more

Dasha sits down with Finnish President Alexander Stubb in Helsinki for a wide-ranging conversation on NATO, Russia's war in Ukraine, Iran and the future of America's relationships with allies around the world.

Stubb, who has developed an unusually c... more

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Recent Guests

Mark Rutte
NATO Secretary General, former Prime Minister of the Netherlands
NATO
Episode: Why NATO’s chief thinks Trump was right (with Mark Rutte)
Kelly Armstrong
Governor of North Dakota
North Dakota Government
Episode: A GOP power trio look to Teddy Roosevelt for America's next 250 years | On The Road
Kevin Cramer
U.S. Senator (North Dakota)
U.S. Senate
Episode: A GOP power trio look to Teddy Roosevelt for America's next 250 years | On The Road
Doug Burgum
Former Governor and current Interior Secretary
U.S. Department of the Interior
Episode: A GOP power trio look to Teddy Roosevelt for America's next 250 years | On The Road
Ken Burns
Award-winning documentarian known for The Civil War, Jazz, Baseball, and The National Parks
PBS/Florentine Films
Episode: Can the American experiment survive? (with Ken Burns)
Alexander Stubb
President of Finland
Office of the President of Finland
Episode: Finland’s president: Europe needs to calm down about Trump (with Alexander Stubb)
Jack Schlossberg
Democratic candidate for New York's 12th congressional district
Schlossberg campaign
Episode: Democrats need to stop being ‘boring’ (with Jack Schlossberg)
Lee Zeldin
EPA Administrator
Environmental Protection Agency
Episode: The EPA isn’t here to fight climate change (with Lee Zeldin)
Brian Armstrong
CEO and co-founder of Coinbase
Coinbase
Episode: The crypto clash that could reshape finance (with Brian Armstrong)

Hosts

Dasha Burns
Host focused on Washington politics and national policy, with a background in political reporting.
Jonathan Martin
Co-host, brings on-the-road interview format and deep political analysis.

Reviews

4.1 out of 5 stars from 2k ratings
  • Lee Zeldin

    Dasha tried hard to get Lee to answer pointed questions. He avoided answering on the basis of not focusing on sound bites while using sound bites to blame everyone else for real issues. Lee, your obligation may be to follow the best version of the law, but you’re obviously following the best version of what billionaires want. Keep pushing them Dasha!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    wlc825
    United Statesa month ago
  • Unimpressed

    I listened to the anniversary show. I was surprised by how vapid and cliched her answers were.

    I don’t trust this person to ask the most relevant questions of political and economic leaders and insist on getting honest answers.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    willow-sc
    United Statesa month ago
  • Excellent & Horrific

    The episodes of real exploration, almost exclusively done by Dasha Burns, are stellar. They demonstrate respectful, open discussion of challenging topics - with appropriate pushback equal among all guest perspectives. They also include a generally small but meaningful amount of exploration of who the guest is as a person.

    In stark contrast, the episodes done by Jonathan Martin are nothing more than excessively long, utterly horrific fluff pieces. Worse, they are with guests who actually have so... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    11Marigold
    United States2 months ago
  • Just letting politicians talk

    This podcast is primarily the unchallenged, sanewashed loghorrhea of MAGA talking heads. Hard pass.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    dchsco97
    United States4 months ago
  • Federman

    Thank you for bringing this episode because I have been worried about John but this episode reassured me that John is still doing great. I agree with many of his points of view. Common sense stands on a lot of issues

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Wendygull
    United States5 months ago

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Many commenters value the host's interviewing style and feel it brings practical governance perspectives to national issues.
Listeners appreciate long-form, in-depth conversations with high-profile figures; some critique pushback depth and perceived partisanship in certain episodes.

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Can the American experiment survive? (with Ken Burns)
Q: What do you think is misunderstood about the founding?
He argues the founding is not a bloodless myth but a violent, messy process with constitutional tensions that challenge the idea of freedom and equality.
Can the American experiment survive? (with Ken Burns)
Q: How would you describe the central question you pursue in your films, and how does that apply to today?
Burns explains that his work centers on who we are as Americans and that each project deepens that question rather than giving a final answer, emphasizing complexity and ongoing interpretation.
Finland’s president: Europe needs to calm down about Trump (with Alexander Stubb)
Q: Is Europe safer from the Iran situation now than four months ago, and what must be the must-haves for a durable deal?
A phased approach with ceasefire, uranium enrichment limits, and regional proxies addressed, plus a continuing obligation to multilateral engagement and diplomacy.
Finland’s president: Europe needs to calm down about Trump (with Alexander Stubb)
Q: What is your take on the evolving strength of NATO and what should the US focus on at the Ankara-NATO summit?
Maintain burden-sharing, emphasize Ukraine support, and push for defense industry collaboration and Arctic security measures, while keeping channels open with allies.
Finland’s president: Europe needs to calm down about Trump (with Alexander Stubb)
Q: I want to start with the transatlantic relationship because... the relationship between the US and NATO... is constantly renegotiated in real time since President Trump came back to the Oval Office. What have you learned about how to communicate and work with him effectively?
Engagement is essential and personal relationships matter; stay pragmatic, understand the other side's goals, and use direct communication to bridge gaps, even when policy disagreements exist.

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A politics-forward interview show that aims for long-form conversations with high-profile power players, policymakers, and industry leaders. Episodes frequently cover governance, national security, foreign policy, and domestic policy, often weaving in personal backgrounds, career trajectories, and practical implications of policy choices. Noteworthy tendencies include on-the-road interview formats, candid reflections on leadership, and a willingness to tackle timely issues with guests ranging from governors and senators to tech executives and national security figures. Listeners are likely drawn to nuanced analysis, real-world governance insights, and perspectives from both campaign trail and policymaking arenas.

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2. Kelly Armstrong
3. Kevin Cramer
4. Doug Burgum
5. Ken Burns
6. Alexander Stubb
7. Jack Schlossberg
8. Lee Zeldin

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