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Civic Ventures
Middle-Out Economics
Inequality
Economic Inequality
Neoliberalism
Trickle-Down Economics
Economics
Democracy
Biden Administration
Capitalism
Minimum Wage
Inflation
Civic Ventures
Labor Market
Housing Affordability
Labor Rights
Tax Policy
Labor Unions
Child Tax Credit
Income Inequality
Corporate Power

We are living through a paradigm shift from trickle-down neoliberalism to middle-out economics — a new understanding of who gets what and why. Join zillionaire class-traitor Nick Hanauer and some of the world’s leading economic and political thinkers as they explore the latest thinking on how the economy actually works.

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Housing is still ridiculously expensive, and building more housing is absolutely part of the solution. But supply alone won’t fix a system where landlords have the power to jack up rents with the assistance of algorithms, and developers make more mon... more

Industrial policy is back at the center of the economic debate. But tariffs, factories, and reshoring are only part of the story. In this 2023 conversation, development economist Isabel Estevez joins Nick and Goldy to argue that industrial policy is ... more

We like to think that if a company cheats us, steals our wages, or breaks the law, we can take them to court. Unfortunately, there’s a good chance you’ve already signed that right away.

This week, Brendan Ballou returns to the podcast to explain how... more

For 150 years, the price tag made a simple and universal promise: the price you saw was the price everyone saw. Now, that promise is disappearing. This week, Lindsay Owens, President and CEO of the Groundwork Collaborative returns to discuss her new ... more

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Sandeep Vaheesan
Legal Director at the Open Markets Institute
Open Markets Institute
Episode: Housing Is a Market Power Problem (with Sandeep Vaheesan & Brian Callaci)
Brian Callaci
Chief Economist at the Open Markets Institute
Open Markets Institute
Episode: Housing Is a Market Power Problem (with Sandeep Vaheesan & Brian Callaci)
Isabel Estevez
Development Economist at the Roosevelt Institute, Deputy Director of Industrial Policy and Trade
Roosevelt Institute
Episode: Who Is Industrial Policy Really For? (with Isabel Estevez)
Mariana Mazzucato
Economist, professor at University College London; author of The Common Good Economy
University College London; Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose
Episode: Can We Build a Common Good Economy? (with Mariana Mazzucato)
Rey Fuentes
Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Roosevelt Institute
Roosevelt Institute
Episode: The $29 Trillion Social Security Crisis We Already Know How to Fix ( with Rey Fuentes)
Chris Murphy
United States Senator from Connecticut, author
U.S. Senate
Episode: Profit, Power, and the Crisis of the Common Good (with Sen. Chris Murphy)
Carrie Joy Grimes
CEO of Work Money; author of The Joy of Money
Work Money
Episode: The Joy of Money (with Carrie Joy Grimes)
Nick Brown
Washington State Attorney General
Office of the Washington State Attorney General
Episode: What Happens When the Other Washington Stops Enforcing Antitrust? (with WA State Attorney General Nick Brown)
Paul Krugman
Professor of Economics, Graduate Center of the City University of New York; columnist for the New York Times
New York Times, Citi? (as per intro)
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Zombie Economics (with Paul Krugman)

Hosts

Nick Hanauer
Host of the show; prominent entrepreneur and economist known for advocating middle-out economics and policy reform.
Goldy
Co-host, commentator; frequent contributor on economic critique and policy discussion.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 2.1k ratings
  • I'm a HUGE podcast addict and this one has recently moved into my top 10. Concepts like oligarchy, socioeconomic classes, effective altruism, universal basic income, economic mobility, corporate responsibility are covered in depth.

    Podcast Addict
    5
    RuminatingStoic
    10 days ago
  • We’re not doomed to go to H in a hand basket !

    The greatest thing about freedom is that we can change things faster and by ourselves. All that’s required is that we engage and take action. PE presents thinking, perspectives, theories, examples of our economic systems… explained by guests with comprehensive knowledge and refreshing and encouraging insight that help understand not only where we are and how we got here but more importantly how to get to where we want to be.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    OlgaSpanier
    Canada20 days ago
  • President run?

    Any chance Nick would consider running for president one day? He in my opinion would be a very good choice. You already know how to lead. Just a thought.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Leff1980
    United Statesa month ago
  • Less sarcasm please

    This is a good podcast that has the potential to be a great podcast, all that is required is to turn the sarcasm down from the current seemingly every other comment to once or twice per episode.

    The topics are important, the guests are truly the economic and policy pioneers of our times, and the whole concept of the billionaire class traitor chatting with the progressive rebel is a solid one. Further, the goals of Civic Ventures to create a truly “middle out” economics is important.

    The consi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    たこ公園
    Japan2 months ago
  • Change of slogan

    How about changing the slogan:

    “It’s the economy stupid” to

    “It’s the economic system stupid”

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    WordPlayer500
    United States3 months ago

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Who Is Industrial Policy Really For? (with Isabel Estevez)
Q: What are you excited about in the Biden investments (CHIPS/IRA) and how to implement them effectively?
The discussions highlight the potential of procurement-driven policy, standard-setting for labor and environmental protections, and the need to expand administrative capacity for planning and evaluation. There's emphasis on moving from widget-maximizing to human-well-being outcomes, using public procurement and standards to ensure domestic production supports labor rights and climate goals.
Who Is Industrial Policy Really For? (with Isabel Estevez)
Q: What are the elements of neoliberal orthodoxy that discouraged industrial policy in the last 40-50 years?
The dominant view held that markets are naturally efficient and left to their own devices; state intervention would distort markets and reduce growth. This narrative justified deregulation and outsourcing as consumer-friendly, but in practice contributed to middle-class decline and stagnant wages. The guests argue for recognizing that markets are shaped by political forces and that state action can guide production toward broader well-being.
Who Is Industrial Policy Really For? (with Isabel Estevez)
Q: So Isabel, tell us what Industrial Policy is and why we should or shouldn't do it.
Industrial policy is about influencing and shaping the world of production—what goods and services we produce, and how we produce them—using a wide set of tools from public investment to regulation and procurement to align production with public well-being. The conversation emphasizes broadening the frame beyond widget production to include factors like labor standards, equity, and environmental safeguards, and notes that the Biden-era investments (CHIPS, IRA, Infrastructure) reflect a re-emergence of these ideas.
Can We Build a Common Good Economy? (with Mariana Mazzucato)
Q: What policy interventions would you suggest if you were in charge for a day?
Invest in government capability, retrain the public sector, and test concrete sandbox programs that bring together government, private sector, and civil society to co-create solutions like universal healthy school meals, river cleanups, and more equitable procurement practices.
The $29 Trillion Social Security Crisis We Already Know How to Fix ( with Rey Fuentes)
Q: What is your most radical reform idea to fix Social Security without cutting benefits?
Extend the Social Security tax to all income types (including capital gains), effectively raising the payroll tax base and reducing the solvency gap without slashing benefits.

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A policy-focused economics show that features leading economists, policymakers, and journalists to dissect how wealth, power, and institutions shape the economy. Episodes frequently explore topics like productivity, wage dynamics, antitrust, regulation, and the role of government in delivering shared prosperity, often advocating a “middle-out” framework that centers workers and communities. Notable strengths include high-caliber guests, rigorous policy discussion, and a willingness to challenge conventional neoliberal assumptions with practical, reform-minded ideas. The format tends to combine historical context, data-driven analysis, and concrete policy levers that listeners can translate into business or advocacy strategies. This program ... more

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