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Civic Ventures
Middle-Out Economics
Inequality
Economic Inequality
Neoliberalism
Trickle-Down Economics
Economics
Democracy
Biden Administration
Capitalism
Minimum Wage
Inflation
Civic Ventures
Labor Market
Housing Affordability
Labor Rights
Tax Policy
Labor Unions
Child Tax Credit
Income Inequality
Corporate Power

We are living through a paradigm shift from trickle-down neoliberalism to middle-out economics — a new understanding of who gets what and why. Join zillionaire class-traitor Nick Hanauer and some of the world’s leading economic and political thinkers as they explore the latest thinking on how the economy actually works.

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This week, we’re continuing our archive miniseries, Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics, with the myth that austerity is responsible economic policy.

We’re revisiting this conversation now because the austerity playbook is still very much alive.... more

This week, we’re continuing our archive miniseries, Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics, with the myth that bad economic ideas die once the evidence proves them wrong.

They don’t. They come back as zombie ideas: tax cuts for the rich sold as gro... more

This week, we’re continuing our archive miniseries, Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics, with the myth that corporations exist to maximize shareholder value.

For decades, Americans were sold the idea that if corporations focused on boosting stoc... more

This week, we’re kicking off our archive miniseries, Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics, with one of the most persistent myths in American politics: that regulation kills growth.

Corporate lobbyists and trickle-down evangelists have spent decad... more

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Recent Guests

Paul Krugman
Professor of Economics, Graduate Center of the City University of New York; columnist for the New York Times
New York Times, Citi? (as per intro)
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Zombie Economics (with Paul Krugman)
Robert Reich
Former US Secretary of Labor, frequent public economist
Inequality Media / University of California
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Regulations Kill Growth (with Robert Reich)
Kathryn Anne Edwards
Labor economist; Bloomberg Opinion columnist
Bloomberg Opinion
Episode: AI Job Loss Is Real. The Catastrophe Is Optional (with Kathryn Edwards)
Larry Mishel
Economist at the Economic Policy Institute
Economic Policy Institute
Episode: The Policy Choices That Suppressed American Wages (with Josh Bivens and Larry Mishel)
Josh Bivens
Research Director at EPI
Economic Policy Institute
Episode: The Policy Choices That Suppressed American Wages (with Josh Bivens and Larry Mishel)
Nick Hanauer
Philanthropist, civic innovator, and entrepreneur
Episode: What Comes After Neoliberalism? (with Nick Hanauer & Eric Beinhocker)
Kate Andrias
Professor of law focusing on labor law, constitutional law, democracy and political economy
Columbia Law School
Episode: The Worker Power Missing From the Abundance Debate (with Kate Andrias and Alexander Hertel-Fernandez)
Alexander Hertel-Fernandez
Professor of government focusing on political economy, labor, and democracy
Columbia University
Episode: The Worker Power Missing From the Abundance Debate (with Kate Andrias and Alexander Hertel-Fernandez)
Tim Murphy
National correspondent at Mother Jones Magazine
Mother Jones
Episode: How the AI Oligarchy Went Hyperscale (with Tim Murphy)

Hosts

Nick Hanauer
Host of Pitchfork Economics; long-running public economist and commentator on labor, inequality, and policy.
Goldie
Co-host introducing guests and guiding discussion; frequent interlocutor in policy debates and economics discussions.
Paul
Co-host and interviewer; engages guests and helps structure policy conversations.

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 2.1k ratings
  • Change of slogan

    How about changing the slogan:

    “It’s the economy stupid” to

    “It’s the economic system stupid”

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    WordPlayer500
    United States17 days ago
  • 50% of the time just replaying old episodes. My biggest pet peeve.

    Really wish you’d stop replaying old podcast episodes. If people want to rehear them for the third time they can do that on their own. It’s just a simple scroll. I’d rather you didn’t upload any episode for the week instead of being faked out by a “new episode” available alert that’s just a replay.

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    jas_8998
    United States21 days ago
  • Nick, you don’t need more than a billion dollars, dude.

    I have been listening to this podcast for a few years, and as someone who has always been interested in economics and economic policy as it pertains to the working class and to poverty, I have really enjoyed it!

    However, I recently listened to the episode with Ingrid Robeyns. I hadn’t heard of her before, but she was totally speaking my language! Her policy suggestions regarding “Limitarianism” are right on, perhaps though with higher wealth and transformative asset limits than what she has su... more

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    eva-alice
    United States4 months ago
  • Magic Wand

    Great program, great policy for a Project 2028. If Civic Ventures isn’t writing this, it should be. Thank you so much.

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    Changeling.
    United States5 months ago
  • Important Acknowledgment

    We progressives can learn from the rapid implementation of policies that Trump is doing now. Setting aside the chaos and incompetence of the Trump administration, we should learn from his practice of leadership and not give a damn about what the so-called experts think. Trump doesn’t care about what others think of what he can and cannot do, he just does it. We progressives do believe that government can do good for people, we should cease on this time and not let a good opportunity go to waste.... more

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    teo_1790
    United States6 months ago

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Engaging, accessible deep-dives into complex economic topics.
Thoughtful critique of philanthropy and policy capture, with data-driven arguments.
Guests bring rigorous insight, with a strong emphasis on workers' power.
Listeners praise the practical policy ideas and real-world relevance.
A clear, policy-driven take on economics that stays accessible.

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Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Austerity Politics (with Clara Mattei)
Q: What is the central claim of your book The Capital Order?
The Capital Order argues that economists helped construct and naturalize austerity as a rational policy framework, thereby paving the way for fascist and anti-democratic outcomes by reinforcing a social order that concentrates power and resources in the hands of capital owners.
Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Austerity Politics (with Clara Mattei)
Q: Before we get to the book, can you define austerity for us?
Austerity should be understood as a triad of policies—fiscal austerity (cuts in social expenditures), monetary austerity (higher interest rates), and industrial austerity (weaker bargaining power for workers)—that collectively shift resources away from the majority toward the few, and are not merely about government budgets but about who benefits from public spending.
The Worker Power Missing From the Abundance Debate (with Kate Andrias and Alexander Hertel-Fernandez)
Q: How can unions be part of the abundance project?
Unions can be proactive in supporting public investment and housing growth, help train workers, and engage in tripartite arrangements (with government and developers) to ensure that projects deliver good jobs while expanding membership and community benefits.
The Worker Power Missing From the Abundance Debate (with Kate Andrias and Alexander Hertel-Fernandez)
Q: What is the evidence around unions as obstacles to building, and what does your Roosevelt Institute report actually say?
The evidence does not support unions as the primary obstacles; cross-national comparisons show strong labor movements exist with effective building, and domestically, the data do not show a direct correlation between union strength, higher costs, and reduced production, suggesting the issue lies elsewhere.
The Worker Power Missing From the Abundance Debate (with Kate Andrias and Alexander Hertel-Fernandez)
Q: Why do you define abundance the way you do and how should government be organized to achieve it?
Abundance is about organizing government to produce more of what people need, like housing, transit, clean energy, and infrastructure, at scale, while ensuring processes are democratic and pro-worker rather than being slowed by excessive regulation or narrow interests.

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A thoughtful deep-dive into how policy, labor power, and democratic institutions can reshape the economy away from trickle-down ideologies toward broad-based prosperity. Across episodes, the conversation often centers on middle-out economics, public infrastructure with strong worker protections, wage standards, pricing power, and fiscal policy that targets working people. Guests range from labor law scholars and economists to policy researchers and critics of philanthropy, all explored through rigorous analysis and concrete policy options. A notable strength is its ability to connect empirical research with actionable ideas—like sectoral bargaining, public banking, and reforms to taxation and wealth transfer—while maintaining accessible, po... more

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