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Civic Ventures
Middle-Out Economics
Inequality
Economic Inequality
Neoliberalism
Trickle-Down Economics
Economics
Democracy
Biden Administration
Capitalism
Minimum Wage
Inflation
Civic Ventures
Labor Market
Housing Affordability
Labor Rights
Tax Policy
Labor Unions
Child Tax Credit
Income Inequality
Corporate Power

We are living through a paradigm shift from trickle-down neoliberalism to middle-out economics — a new understanding of who gets what and why. Join zillionaire class-traitor Nick Hanauer and some of the world’s leading economic and political thinkers as they explore the latest thinking on how the economy actually works.

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Clara Mattei
Associate Professor of Economics at the New School for Social Research
The Capital Order (book)
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Austerity Politics (with Clara Mattei)
Paul Krugman
Professor of Economics, Graduate Center of the City University of New York; columnist for the New York Times
New York Times, Citi? (as per intro)
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Zombie Economics (with Paul Krugman)
William Lazonick
Leading expert on stock buybacks and corporate finance
University affiliated expert
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Shareholder Value (with William Lazonick and Lenore Palladino)
Robert Reich
Former US Secretary of Labor, frequent public economist
Inequality Media / University of California
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Regulations Kill Growth (with Robert Reich)
Kathryn Anne Edwards
Labor economist; Bloomberg Opinion columnist
Bloomberg Opinion
Episode: AI Job Loss Is Real. The Catastrophe Is Optional (with Kathryn Edwards)
Larry Mishel
Economist at the Economic Policy Institute
Economic Policy Institute
Episode: The Policy Choices That Suppressed American Wages (with Josh Bivens and Larry Mishel)
Josh Bivens
Research Director at EPI
Economic Policy Institute
Episode: The Policy Choices That Suppressed American Wages (with Josh Bivens and Larry Mishel)
Nick Hanauer
Founder of Civic Ventures; author and economist
Civic Ventures
Episode: Market Humanism: A New Operating System for the Economy (with Nick Hanauer)
Kate Andrias
Professor of law focusing on labor law, constitutional law, democracy and political economy
Columbia Law School
Episode: The Worker Power Missing From the Abundance Debate (with Kate Andrias and Alexander Hertel-Fernandez)

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Nick Hanauer
Host of Pitchfork Economics; long-running public economist and commentator on labor, inequality, and policy.
Goldie
Co-host introducing guests and guiding discussion; frequent interlocutor in policy debates and economics discussions.
Paul
Co-host and interviewer; engages guests and helps structure policy conversations.

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 2.1k ratings
  • Change of slogan

    How about changing the slogan:

    “It’s the economy stupid” to

    “It’s the economic system stupid”

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    WordPlayer500
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  • 50% of the time just replaying old episodes. My biggest pet peeve.

    Really wish you’d stop replaying old podcast episodes. If people want to rehear them for the third time they can do that on their own. It’s just a simple scroll. I’d rather you didn’t upload any episode for the week instead of being faked out by a “new episode” available alert that’s just a replay.

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    jas_8998
    United Statesa month ago
  • Nick, you don’t need more than a billion dollars, dude.

    I have been listening to this podcast for a few years, and as someone who has always been interested in economics and economic policy as it pertains to the working class and to poverty, I have really enjoyed it!

    However, I recently listened to the episode with Ingrid Robeyns. I hadn’t heard of her before, but she was totally speaking my language! Her policy suggestions regarding “Limitarianism” are right on, perhaps though with higher wealth and transformative asset limits than what she has su... more

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    eva-alice
    United States5 months ago
  • Magic Wand

    Great program, great policy for a Project 2028. If Civic Ventures isn’t writing this, it should be. Thank you so much.

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    Changeling.
    United States6 months ago
  • Important Acknowledgment

    We progressives can learn from the rapid implementation of policies that Trump is doing now. Setting aside the chaos and incompetence of the Trump administration, we should learn from his practice of leadership and not give a damn about what the so-called experts think. Trump doesn’t care about what others think of what he can and cannot do, he just does it. We progressives do believe that government can do good for people, we should cease on this time and not let a good opportunity go to waste.... more

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Thoughtful critique of philanthropy and policy capture, with data-driven arguments.
Guests bring rigorous insight, with a strong emphasis on workers' power.
Listeners praise the practical policy ideas and real-world relevance.
A clear, policy-driven take on economics that stays accessible.

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The Good Life Economy (with Elizabeth Wilkins)
Q: What is the core idea behind time and agency in this framework, and why is it central to policy design?
The guests discuss placing time and leisure at the center of economic policy, arguing that people want a balance between work and life and that policy should ensure durable value beyond wages, making room for rest and personal fulfillment as a central economic objective.
The Good Life Economy (with Elizabeth Wilkins)
Q: Tell us a little bit about how you came at the problem and how you got to all of this.
Elizabeth explains that the Good Life Agenda emerged from reorienting economic policy toward human flourishing and everyday life, arguing that traditional neoliberal tools are insufficient and that a broader toolkit—public options, industrial policy, and stronger social supports—can deliver a more democratic and humane economy.
Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Productivity Doesn’t Trickle Down (with Preston Mui)
Q: What role should policy play in normalizing monetary policy to support productivity?
Policy should aim for a neutral or slightly looser stance to sustain labor market gains and aggregate demand, facilitating ongoing investment in productivity-enhancing technologies.
Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Productivity Doesn’t Trickle Down (with Preston Mui)
Q: What made the 1990s productivity growth possible, and can we recreate that today?
Three key factors—full employment, a boom in fixed investment (especially in computers and software), and a stable supply side—combined to drive high productivity in the 1990s; today, policy should aim to recreate those conditions with deliberate government support and investment.
Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Productivity Doesn’t Trickle Down (with Preston Mui)
Q: What exactly is full employment and also what exactly is productivity?
Full employment involves a high level of job availability, rising wages, and strong bargaining power for workers, while productivity is measured as output per worker, with emphasis on both quantity and quality of work.

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A thoughtful deep-dive into how policy, labor power, and democratic institutions can reshape the economy away from trickle-down ideologies toward broad-based prosperity. Across episodes, the conversation often centers on middle-out economics, public infrastructure with strong worker protections, wage standards, pricing power, and fiscal policy that targets working people. Guests range from labor law scholars and economists to policy researchers and critics of philanthropy, all explored through rigorous analysis and concrete policy options. A notable strength is its ability to connect empirical research with actionable ideas—like sectoral bargaining, public banking, and reforms to taxation and wealth transfer—while maintaining accessible, po... more

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