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Civic Ventures
Middle-Out Economics
Inequality
Economic Inequality
Neoliberalism
Trickle-Down Economics
Economics
Democracy
Biden Administration
Capitalism
Minimum Wage
Inflation
Civic Ventures
Labor Market
Housing Affordability
Labor Rights
Tax Policy
Labor Unions
Child Tax Credit
Income Inequality
Corporate Power

We are living through a paradigm shift from trickle-down neoliberalism to middle-out economics — a new understanding of who gets what and why. Join zillionaire class-traitor Nick Hanauer and some of the world’s leading economic and political thinkers as they explore the latest thinking on how the economy actually works.

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Why do so many Americans feel powerless, lonely, and disconnected — and what does that have to do with our economy?

Senator Chris Murphy joins Nick and Goldy to discuss his new book, Crisis of the Common Good, which makes the case that America’s pol... more

When you walk into a McDonald’s, it looks like one company. But legally, the person making your fries probably doesn’t work for McDonald’s at all. Brian Callaci, Chief Economist at the Open Markets Institute and author of Chains of Command, joins Nic... more

Most personal finance advice starts with the same basic premise: you’re doing money wrong. But Carrie Joy Grimes, founder of WorkMoney and author of The Joy of Money, says that misses half the story.

Yes, people need real tools to budget, save, pay ... more

Nobel Prize-winning MIT economist Daron Acemoglu joins Nick and Goldy to discuss his new book, What Happened to Liberal Democracy? Remaking a Politics of Shared Prosperity. They explore why so many people have lost faith in democracy, how inequality ... more

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Recent Guests

Brian Callaci
Chief economist at the Open Markets Institute, author of Chains of Command
Open Markets Institute
Episode: Chains of Command: How Franchising Turned Control Without Responsibility Into a Business Model (with Brian Callaci)
Carrie Joy Grimes
CEO of Work Money; author of The Joy of Money
Work Money
Episode: The Joy of Money (with Carrie Joy Grimes)
Nick Brown
Washington State Attorney General
Office of the Washington State Attorney General
Episode: What Happens When the Other Washington Stops Enforcing Antitrust? (with WA State Attorney General Nick Brown)
Elizabeth Wilkins
President and CEO of the Roosevelt Institute
Roosevelt Institute
Episode: The Good Life Economy (with Elizabeth Wilkins)
Clara Mattei
Associate Professor of Economics at the New School for Social Research
The Capital Order (book)
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Austerity Politics (with Clara Mattei)
Paul Krugman
Professor of Economics, Graduate Center of the City University of New York; columnist for the New York Times
New York Times, Citi? (as per intro)
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Zombie Economics (with Paul Krugman)
Lenore Palladino
Senior Economist and Policy Council at the Roosevelt Institute
Roosevelt Institute
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Shareholder Value (with William Lazonick and Lenore Palladino)
William Lazonick
Leading expert on stock buybacks and corporate finance
University affiliated expert
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Shareholder Value (with William Lazonick and Lenore Palladino)
Robert Reich
Former US Secretary of Labor, frequent public economist
Inequality Media / University of California
Episode: Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Regulations Kill Growth (with Robert Reich)

Hosts

Nick Hanauer
Host of the show; prominent entrepreneur and economist known for advocating middle-out economics and policy reform.
Goldy
Co-host, commentator; frequent contributor on economic critique and policy discussion.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 2.1k ratings
  • Less sarcasm please

    This is a good podcast that has the potential to be a great podcast, all that is required is to turn the sarcasm down from the current seemingly every other comment to once or twice per episode.

    The topics are important, the guests are truly the economic and policy pioneers of our times, and the whole concept of the billionaire class traitor chatting with the progressive rebel is a solid one. Further, the goals of Civic Ventures to create a truly “middle out” economics is important.

    The consi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    たこ公園
    Japana month ago
  • Change of slogan

    How about changing the slogan:

    “It’s the economy stupid” to

    “It’s the economic system stupid”

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    WordPlayer500
    United States2 months ago
  • 50% of the time just replaying old episodes. My biggest pet peeve.

    Really wish you’d stop replaying old podcast episodes. If people want to rehear them for the third time they can do that on their own. It’s just a simple scroll. I’d rather you didn’t upload any episode for the week instead of being faked out by a “new episode” available alert that’s just a replay.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    jas_8998
    United States2 months ago
  • Nick, you don’t need more than a billion dollars, dude.

    I have been listening to this podcast for a few years, and as someone who has always been interested in economics and economic policy as it pertains to the working class and to poverty, I have really enjoyed it!

    However, I recently listened to the episode with Ingrid Robeyns. I hadn’t heard of her before, but she was totally speaking my language! Her policy suggestions regarding “Limitarianism” are right on, perhaps though with higher wealth and transformative asset limits than what she has su... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    eva-alice
    United States6 months ago
  • Magic Wand

    Great program, great policy for a Project 2028. If Civic Ventures isn’t writing this, it should be. Thank you so much.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Changeling.
    United States6 months ago

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Chains of Command: How Franchising Turned Control Without Responsibility Into a Business Model (with Brian Callaci)
Q: What is the core construct of franchising and why does it work economically?
Franchising is a model where a brand licenses its trademark and operating system to independent owners who run outlets, providing a tried-and-true business template, supply chains, and marketing while expanding capital from franchisees; this accelerates growth but concentrates control in the brand owner, often at the expense of labor rights.
What Happens When the Other Washington Stops Enforcing Antitrust? (with WA State Attorney General Nick Brown)
Q: What does it mean for states to have standing to challenge these mergers, and why is this fight important for Washington residents?
He notes that states can act when mergers harm residents and consumer interests, arguing that state antitrust divisions have grown stronger and that their actions fill gaps left by federal enforcement, ultimately protecting local economies and workers.
What Happens When the Other Washington Stops Enforcing Antitrust? (with WA State Attorney General Nick Brown)
Q: But why don't you just kind of explain to the listeners what you're doing and why you're doing it?
Brown explains that a coalition of states co-led the challenge against Paramount Skydance and Warner Bros. Discovery due to concerns about reduced competition, higher costs for consumers, adverse effects on the workforce, and a perceived lack of federal enforcement; the aim is to pause the merger to allow a rigorous review.
The Good Life Economy (with Elizabeth Wilkins)
Q: What is the core idea behind time and agency in this framework, and why is it central to policy design?
The guests discuss placing time and leisure at the center of economic policy, arguing that people want a balance between work and life and that policy should ensure durable value beyond wages, making room for rest and personal fulfillment as a central economic objective.
The Good Life Economy (with Elizabeth Wilkins)
Q: Tell us a little bit about how you came at the problem and how you got to all of this.
Elizabeth explains that the Good Life Agenda emerged from reorienting economic policy toward human flourishing and everyday life, arguing that traditional neoliberal tools are insufficient and that a broader toolkit—public options, industrial policy, and stronger social supports—can deliver a more democratic and humane economy.

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A policy-focused economics show that features leading economists, policymakers, and journalists to dissect how wealth, power, and institutions shape the economy. Episodes frequently explore topics like productivity, wage dynamics, antitrust, regulation, and the role of government in delivering shared prosperity, often advocating a “middle-out” framework that centers workers and communities. Notable strengths include high-caliber guests, rigorous policy discussion, and a willingness to challenge conventional neoliberal assumptions with practical, reform-minded ideas. The format tends to combine historical context, data-driven analysis, and concrete policy levers that listeners can translate into business or advocacy strategies. This program ... more

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