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Pearls On, Gloves Off

Mary O'Carroll
Legal Operations
Ironclad
Legal Technology
Contracts Lifecycle Management
Change Management
Collaboration
Victim Mindset
Skill Development For Lawyers
Generative AI
Future Of Legal Profession
Legal Education
Legal Innovation
Artificial Intelligence
Legal Services Delivery
Digital Transformation
Leadership
Contract Management
Standard Chartered Bank
Flex Talent
Imposter Syndrome

Smooth operations keep businesses afloat – but what makes them successful? "Pearls On, Gloves Off" is a new podcast where Legal Ops legend Mary O'Carroll and a motley crew of guests share their insider knowledge from running high-performing businesses. Join us for insightful conversations with some of today's most respected leaders and luminaries.

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Mary O'Carroll isn't experimenting for fun, she's trying to solve one of legal's biggest scaling problems: the fact that the profession's best judgment and hard-earned experience still lives in people's heads, buried in laptops, or scattered across y... more

Keir Gumbs, Chief Legal Officer at Edward Jones, isn't here to maintain the status quo. He joined the largest U.S. financial services firm not to run legal as usual - but to lead a transformation. In this episode, Keir and Mary talk candidly about wh... more

Mary O'Carroll welcomes Stephanie Hamon (Global Head of Legal External Engagement, HSBC) to explore how in‑house legal teams are rethinking their relationships with law firms, vendors, and the broader legal ecosystem. With experience spanning Barclay... more

Legal recruiters and podcast hosts Genevieve Riccardelli and Jennifer Soltau join Mary to unpack how law-firm hiring is being turned on its head. They run entry-level recruiting at Goodwin and see the shift happening in real time. Their perspective o... more

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Recent Guests

Keir Gumbs
Chief Legal Officer at Edward Jones with over 24 years of experience in law and business, previously held senior positions at Uber and Covington.
Edward Jones
Episode: #85 - Edward Jones CLO Is Moneyball-ing Legal Risk
Jennifer Soltau
Senior Manager of Legal Recruiting at Goodwin
Goodwin
Episode: #83 - Recruiting Gen Z Lawyers in a Broken System
Genevieve Riccardelli
Leads entry-level hiring, law school engagement, and the summer program for Goodwin's New York office
Goodwin
Episode: #83 - Recruiting Gen Z Lawyers in a Broken System
Ben Campbell
General Counsel of Deloitte, formerly a partner at Latham and a prosecutor at the DOJ
Deloitte
Episode: #82 - Deloitte Prices for Outcomes. Law Firms Will Too.
Rachel St. Peter
General Counsel for Nestlé Health Sciences in the US.
Nestlé Health Sciences
Episode: #79 - In House Career Growth: Being a Great Lawyer Isn't Enough
Jacqueline Lee
Senior Vice President and General Counsel at Flynn Group
Flynn Group
Episode: #78 - The Joyful Legal Team
Jim Delkousis
Founder and CEO of Persuit, a platform for managing legal procurement and pricing
Persuit
Episode: #75 - Owning the AI Narrative (Before Someone Else Does)
Sean Houston
Head of Legal Operations at Heineken
Heineken
Episode: #74 - From the Ground Up: Building Legal Ops with Sean Houston
Mike Walsh
CEO of Tomorrow, a global consultancy helping companies reimagine for the 21st century, and a futurist.
Tomorrow
Episode: #73 - Futurist Says: Legal's Real Risk Is Playing It Safe

Host

Mary O'Carroll
Host and Chief Operating Officer at Goodwin, Mary O'Carroll is renowned for her expertise in legal operations and insight into running high-performing businesses. She brings a wealth of knowledge and experience from her leadership roles in the legal industry.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 44 ratings
  • Great Content for any Legal Ops Professional

    Mary always provides insightful content for which I am eagerly awaiting to learn with each podcast. I learn so much and receive the reinforcement needed to become a better Legal Ops professional. Thank you Mary!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    St Johns CR210
    United States3 years ago

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#85 - Edward Jones CLO Is Moneyball-ing Legal Risk
Q: How did you go in?
Anytime you come into an organization, you have to start with humility.
#85 - Edward Jones CLO Is Moneyball-ing Legal Risk
Q: What pieces have you taken from each of those? And how do you describe the culture that you try to convey now?
I focus on creating a strong, cohesive team culture, drawing on lessons from past experiences in various organizations.
#85 - Edward Jones CLO Is Moneyball-ing Legal Risk
Q: Where do you start? How did you figure out the lay of the land and where to start bringing an innovative mindset to things?
I started with humility, aiming to learn about Edward Jones and engage in transformation without immediately trying to change everything.
#85 - Edward Jones CLO Is Moneyball-ing Legal Risk
Q: What made you so interested in transformation?
I love studying how great organizations change and shift, particularly how businesses succeed or fail in transformation.
#85 - Edward Jones CLO Is Moneyball-ing Legal Risk
Q: Can you start with telling us what that means?
The Chief Legal Officer title means I'm responsible for three groups: the legal team, compliance organization, and risk organizations.

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Focusing on the intersection of legal operations, management, and technology, the content commonly explores the unique challenges and innovations within the legal industry. Episodes frequently highlight significant shifts in legal recruiting, the impact of artificial intelligence on legal practices, and the evolving role of legal operations in corporate environments. Insights from seasoned experts across various sectors provide valuable perspectives on improving efficiencies and adapting to changing market dynamics, making this a must-listen for professionals aiming to stay ahead in the competitive landscape of legal and business operations. The discussions emphasize a combination of practical advice and thought-provoking analysis, which se... more

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