
Join Mary O'Carroll as she sits down with General Counsel, Chief Legal Officers, and industry pioneers to tackle the debates reshaping legal services and technology. Presented by Workday.
| Publishes | Twice monthly | Episodes | 91 | Founded | 4 years ago |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Number of Listeners | Categories | ManagementBusiness | |||

This episode of Pearls On, Gloves Off is powered by Workday. Learn more at workday.com.
In this episode, Mary sits down with Claire Hart, Chief Operating Officer, Chief Legal Officer, and Board Member at Groq, to talk about what legal leaders shoul... more
In this episode of Pearls On, Gloves Off, Mary sits down with Bill Ryan, Senior Vice President and Chief Compliance Officer at AT&T, and Ava Guo, Assistant Vice President and Senior Legal Counsel, to talk about leading through the AI inflection point... more
In this episode of Pearls On, Gloves Off, Mary sits down with Mike Abbott, Head of the Thomson Reuters Institute, to unpack the paradox: how can firms be thriving on paper while the ground shifts beneath them? Clients are tightening spend. Work is mo... more
Mary O'Carroll kicks off a new era of Pearls On, Gloves Off - independent, sponsor-curious, and still laser-focused on what's actually changing in legal. Her first guest in this new chapter is the person many listeners will recognize instantly: Alex ... more
People also subscribe to these shows.




Mary always provides insightful content for which I am eagerly awaiting to learn with each podcast. I learn so much and receive the reinforcement needed to become a better Legal Ops professional. Thank you Mary!!
Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.
How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.
Apple Podcasts | #170 | |
Apple Podcasts | #79 | |
Apple Podcasts | #232 | |
Apple Podcasts | #168 | |
Apple Podcasts | #33 | |
Apple Podcasts | #34 |
Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.
Listeners, social reach, demographics and more for this podcast.
| Listeners per Episode | |
|---|---|
| Gender Skew | |
| Location | |
| Interests | |
| Professions | |
| Age Range | |
| Household Income | |
| Social Media Reach |
This show concentrates on how legal services intersect with technology, operations, and business strategy. Episodes frequently explore AI-enabled in-house models, outsourcing versus internal capabilities, modernization of legal departments, and innovative pricing and engagement with outside counsel. Across guests—GCs, CLOs, and senior legal ops leaders—the conversations highlight practical implementations, change management, and the balance between efficiency and high-quality legal judgment. A notable pattern is aligning legal operations with business outcomes, often challenging traditional billable norms and vendor relationships, while showcasing real-world case studies from large organizations across tech, finance, and consumer sectors.
Rephonic provides a wide range of podcast stats for this podcast. We scanned the web and collated all of the information that we could find in our comprehensive podcast database. See how many people listen to this podcast and access YouTube viewership numbers, download stats, audience demographics, chart rankings, ratings, reviews and more.
Rephonic provides a full set of podcast information for three million podcasts, including the number of listeners. View further listenership figures for this podcast, including podcast download numbers and subscriber numbers, so you can make better decisions about which podcasts to sponsor or be a guest on. You will need to upgrade your account to access this premium data.
Rephonic provides comprehensive predictive audience data for this podcast, including gender skew, age, country, political leaning, income, professions, education level, and interests. You can access these listener demographics by upgrading your account.
To see how many followers or subscribers this podcast has on Spotify and other platforms such as Castbox and Podcast Addict, simply upgrade your account. You'll also find viewership figures for their YouTube channel if they have one.
These podcasts share a similar audience with this podcast:
1. Hard Fork
2. The Ezra Klein Show
3. CLOC Talk
4. Up First from NPR
5. On with Kara Swisher
this podcast launched 4 years ago and published 91 episodes to date. You can find more information about this podcast including rankings, audience demographics and engagement in our podcast database.
Our systems regularly scour the web to find email addresses and social media links for this podcast. We scanned the web and collated all of the contact information that we could find in our podcast database. But in the unlikely event that you can't find what you're looking for, our concierge service lets you request our research team to source better contacts for you.
Rephonic pulls ratings and reviews for this podcast from multiple sources, including Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Castbox, and Podcast Addict.
View all the reviews in one place instead of visiting each platform individually and use this information to decide if a show is worth pitching or not.
Rephonic provides full transcripts for episodes of this podcast. Search within each transcript for your keywords, whether they be topics, brands or people, and figure out if it's worth pitching as a guest or sponsor. You can even set-up alerts to get notified when your keywords are mentioned.
Recent guests on this podcast include:
1. Bill Ryan
2. Ava Guo
3. Mike Abbott
4. Alex Su
5. Keir Gumbs
6. Jennifer Soltau
7. Genevieve Riccardelli
8. Ben Campbell
To view more recent guests and their details, simply upgrade your Rephonic account. You'll also get access to a typical guest profile to help you decide if the show is worth pitching.