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Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast

Mary O'Carroll
Legal Operations
Ironclad
Legal Technology
Digital Transformation
Contracts Lifecycle Management
Change Management
Collaboration
Victim Mindset
Generative AI
Skill Development For Lawyers
Future Of Legal Profession
Legal Services Delivery
Artificial Intelligence
Legal Innovation
Legal Education
Leadership
Operational Excellence
Contract Management
Standard Chartered Bank
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Join Mary O'Carroll as she sits down with General Counsel, Chief Legal Officers, and industry pioneers to tackle the debates reshaping legal services and technology.

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In this episode of Pearls On, Gloves Off, Mary sits down with Mike Abbott, Head of the Thomson Reuters Institute, to unpack the paradox: how can firms be thriving on paper while the ground shifts beneath them? Clients are tightening spend. Work is mo... more

Mary O'Carroll kicks off a new era of Pearls On, Gloves Off - independent, sponsor-curious, and still laser-focused on what's actually changing in legal. Her first guest in this new chapter is the person many listeners will recognize instantly: Alex ... more

Mary O'Carroll isn't experimenting for fun, she's trying to solve one of legal's biggest scaling problems: the fact that the profession's best judgment and hard-earned experience still lives in people's heads, buried in laptops, or scattered across y... more

Keir Gumbs, Chief Legal Officer at Edward Jones, isn't here to maintain the status quo. He joined the largest U.S. financial services firm not to run legal as usual - but to lead a transformation. In this episode, Keir and Mary talk candidly about wh... more

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Alex Su
Former litigator, current Chief Revenue Officer at Latitude Legal, known for his comedic content related to the legal profession.
Latitude Legal
Episode: #87 - Updates & Hot Takes with Alex Su
Keir Gumbs
Chief Legal Officer at Edward Jones with over 24 years of experience in law and business, previously held senior positions at Uber and Covington.
Edward Jones
Episode: #85 - Edward Jones CLO Is Moneyball-ing Legal Risk
Jennifer Soltau
Senior Manager of Legal Recruiting at Goodwin
Goodwin
Episode: #83 - Recruiting Gen Z Lawyers in a Broken System
Genevieve Riccardelli
Leads entry-level hiring, law school engagement, and the summer program for Goodwin's New York office
Goodwin
Episode: #83 - Recruiting Gen Z Lawyers in a Broken System
Ben Campbell
General Counsel of Deloitte, formerly a partner at Latham and a prosecutor at the DOJ
Deloitte
Episode: #82 - Deloitte Prices for Outcomes. Law Firms Will Too.
Rachel St. Peter
General Counsel for Nestlé Health Sciences in the US.
Nestlé Health Sciences
Episode: #79 - In House Career Growth: Being a Great Lawyer Isn't Enough
Jacqueline Lee
Senior Vice President and General Counsel at Flynn Group
Flynn Group
Episode: #78 - The Joyful Legal Team
Jim Delkousis
Founder and CEO of Persuit, a platform for managing legal procurement and pricing
Persuit
Episode: #75 - Owning the AI Narrative (Before Someone Else Does)
Sean Houston
Head of Legal Operations at Heineken
Heineken
Episode: #74 - From the Ground Up: Building Legal Ops with Sean Houston

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Mary O'Carroll
Host and Chief Operating Officer at Goodwin, Mary O'Carroll is renowned for her expertise in legal operations and insight into running high-performing businesses. She brings a wealth of knowledge and experience from her leadership roles in the legal industry.

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4.8 out of 5 stars from 44 ratings
  • Great Content for any Legal Ops Professional

    Mary always provides insightful content for which I am eagerly awaiting to learn with each podcast. I learn so much and receive the reinforcement needed to become a better Legal Ops professional. Thank you Mary!!

    Apple Podcasts
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    St Johns CR210
    United States3 years ago

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The quality of discussions is frequently praised for its depth and relevance to current legal operations challenges, making it beneficial for professionals in the field.
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#87 - Updates & Hot Takes with Alex Su
Q: What do you think about the rise of ALSPs?
ALSPs are positioning themselves alongside traditional law firms, providing essential services while offering diverse paths for legal professionals.
#87 - Updates & Hot Takes with Alex Su
Q: What makes legal tech adoption so hard?
Legal tech adoption is challenging because simply buying AI does not equate to effective usage. Integration into daily workflows is essential for realization of its value.
#85 - Edward Jones CLO Is Moneyball-ing Legal Risk
Q: How did you go in?
Anytime you come into an organization, you have to start with humility.
#85 - Edward Jones CLO Is Moneyball-ing Legal Risk
Q: What pieces have you taken from each of those? And how do you describe the culture that you try to convey now?
I focus on creating a strong, cohesive team culture, drawing on lessons from past experiences in various organizations.
#85 - Edward Jones CLO Is Moneyball-ing Legal Risk
Q: Where do you start? How did you figure out the lay of the land and where to start bringing an innovative mindset to things?
I started with humility, aiming to learn about Edward Jones and engage in transformation without immediately trying to change everything.

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Focusing on the intersection of legal operations, management, and technology, the content commonly explores the unique challenges and innovations within the legal industry. Episodes frequently highlight significant shifts in legal recruiting, the impact of artificial intelligence on legal practices, and the evolving role of legal operations in corporate environments. Insights from seasoned experts across various sectors provide valuable perspectives on improving efficiencies and adapting to changing market dynamics, making this a must-listen for professionals aiming to stay ahead in the competitive landscape of legal and business operations. The discussions emphasize a combination of practical advice and thought-provoking analysis, which se... more

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