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Tune in to CLOC Talk every other week to discover thought leaders hailing from corporate law departments, law firms, legal technology enterprises, legal services firms, consulting services providers, and academia. You may just find the meaning of life.

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Latest Episodes

Legal services are evolving fast, and AI is playing a major role in reshaping how teams work.

In this episode, Mark Ross, Kami Paulsen, and Rich Levine join host, Jeremiah Kincannon, to break down the shifting landscape from the rise of multidiscipl... more

Big changes don’t always require big budgets. In this episode, An Trotter, Senior Director of Operations at Hearst, joins hosts Jeremiah Kincannon and Janessa Nelson to share how legal teams can make impactful improvements by maximizing internal reso... more

Legal operations don’t look the same everywhere, and in this episode, Flavia Furlan shares her firsthand experience navigating the field in Brazil. Moderated by Jeremiah Kincannon, with insights from Louisa Toy, the conversation explores the cultural... more

Steve Harmon went from doubter to champion in the legal ops world, and in this episode, he joins Jenn McCarron to reflect on a decade of transformation. From early skepticism to measurable success, Steve unpacks the key moments that shaped legal oper... more

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Recent Guests

Helena Boschi
Psychologist, speaker and educator
Chequered Leopard
Episode: The Cognitive Edge: Legal Ops & Beyond
Alisha Andert
Co-founder of This Is Legal Design and chairwoman of the German Legal Technology Association
This Is Legal Design
Episode: AI, Empathy, and Legal Design
Justin Schweisberger
Chief Revenue Officer at Pramata
Pramata
Episode: The Legal Operations Blueprint: Aligning Strategy with Company Goals
Kari Walden
Assistant General Counsel at Jack Henry
Jack Henry
Episode: The Legal Operations Blueprint: Aligning Strategy with Company Goals
CJ Nicastro
Program Manager, Global Affairs and Legal Strategy Operations
Google
Episode: Legal Project Management Unpacked: Insights from the Experts
Scott Rosenberg
Managing Director and Corporate Council
Unbiased Consulting, LLC
Episode: Legal Project Management Unpacked: Insights from the Experts
Bernadette Bulacan
Expert in contract life cycle management and legal operations
Icertis
Episode: Automating Agreements: Data-Driven Contracts with Bernadette Bulacan
Craig Emery
Head of the legal chapter and chief compliance officer at Telstra
Telstra
Episode: Agile Law Down Under: Telstra's Legal Transformation with Craig Emery
Holly Ransom
CEO of Emergent Global
Emergent Global
Episode: The Importance of Soft Skills in Successful Organizational Change

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Host of the series, facilitating discussions on various legal operations topics.
Jenn McCarron
Host of various episodes, focusing on legal operations.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 29 ratings
  • Great podcast

    Excellent content

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Gertrude_Jones
    United Kingdom3 years ago
  • Great Podcast!

    As an owner of a court reporting and litigation support business my biggest hurdle has been to explain the importance of legal operations and choosing a vendor. This podcast has been great to learn more about the progression of the industry! CLOC is a great association as well.

    Amber Kusar Estorga

    Kusar Court Reporters / KusarGlobal

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Amber Kusat
    United States4 years ago
  • WOW!!!

    Listening to the experiences of these CLOC legal ops trailblazers gives this legal-ops-professional-trapped-in-the-body-of-an-attorney so much hope!

    The CLOC Talk Podcast is excellent: funny, informative, inspirational and so very relevant!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sdonnigan
    United States4 years ago
  • So helpful and relevant!

    As an attorney fascinated by legal technology and operations and their interaction with business, I appreciate this podcast and Jen’s passion for spreading the message about the CLOC Core 12. The discussions about the fear of judgement from lawyer friends and even family members when a licensed attorney makes the “switch” to legal operations is particularly relevant and accurate. Then reality is that legal operations departments will only expand in the future with advancements in legal tech, the... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    NewlyMingling
    United States5 years ago
  • Great idea to start this podcast!

    Many ideas and best practices might be shared through this resource

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    АлексейНикифоров
    Russia5 years ago

Listeners Say

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Provides useful insights on legal technology and operations.
Excellent content, focusing on relevant topics for legal professionals.
Episodes are engaging and often combine mindfulness practices with industry discussions.
The variety of guests and expertise offers valuable perspectives for those in the legal field.
Listeners appreciate the emphasis on practical strategies for enhancing legal workflows.

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#14
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Apple Podcasts
#138
Argentina/Business
Apple Podcasts
#157
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Legal Ops Remix: Hiring, AI, and Remote Team Success
Q: What do you think about the social challenges of remote work?
Remote work creates social challenges, but we've evolved our social budgets to allow more flexibility for team cohesion even among remote employees.
Legal Ops Remix: Hiring, AI, and Remote Team Success
Q: How do you approach hiring for your legal department?
I look for qualities like hunger, curiosity, and the ability to learn over specific experiences because all of this is always changing.
AI, Empathy, and Legal Design
Q: What tends to be the most revealing thing in understanding a legal design challenge?
Interviews are crucial for uncovering the real issues, especially when done in a supportive environment where users can express their challenges freely.
AI, Empathy, and Legal Design
Q: How do you see the intersection of AI and legal design?
Legal design is becoming increasingly important with AI, focusing on creating valuable solutions that enhance user experiences.
AI, Empathy, and Legal Design
Q: Does empathy have a role to play in legal design?
Empathy is one of the most important aspects of legal design, as it helps to truly understand the user's experience and challenges.

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Content centers on legal operations—an emerging field that integrates legal workflows with business strategy, technology, and project management. The discussions frequently feature thought leaders from various backgrounds, including legal technology, consulting, and corporate law, emphasizing trends such as the impact of artificial intelligence, effective hiring practices, and the evolving landscape of legal services. Noteworthy unique elements include episodes dedicated to guided meditations designed to enhance mindfulness and focus for legal professionals, reflecting a holistic approach to personal well-being within high-pressure environments. This podcast is particularly relevant for professionals seeking insights into the intersection o... more

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5. CJ Nicastro
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