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Abortion
Abortion Rights
Reproductive Rights
Dobbs Decision
Abortion Care
Reproductive Health
Telehealth
Reproductive Healthcare
Jamie Rich
Abortion Access
North Carolina
Roe V. Wade
Late-Term Abortion
Women's Health
TST Health
Ethics In Healthcare
Reproductive Justice
Bioethics
Family Planning
Satanic Temple

In the wild west of abortion bans and restrictions, patients, families, and their doctors are being treated like outlaws. OB-Gyns and abortion care providers Bev and Jonas embrace the American tradition of fighting injustice by sharing their direct line to what’s actually happening in our homes and medical offices.

Each episode’s powerful stories, experts, and resources help us grasp the afterma... more

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As we reflect on the 4 year anniversary of the Dobbs decision, we wanted to go back and share our very first episode of the podcast from Fall of 2024. 

We introduce you to our hosts, Dr. Beverly Gray and Dr. Jonas Swartz, along with a woman named Sa... more

Summer’s here and it’s time for Outlawed’s season 2 finale! Bev and Jonas reflect on the podcast’s original goals of making it easier to have those tough conversations about abortion, and highlight some of the best advice from show guests so far to s... more

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Many people we know and love are adopted or have adopted, but where adoption fits into a reproductive justice framework is nuanced and complex. Dr. Gretchen Sisson, a researcher at Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health (ANSIRH) at UCSF, has ... more

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Last week's rollercoaster of legal rulings and misinformation about mifepristone is enough to cause whiplash. Even Bev and Jonas are confused! So these two justice-seeking OB-Gyns activated the bat signal for all defenders of abortion pill access, an... more

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Recent Guests

Tonya Israel
Researcher focusing on crossing political divides and facilitating peaceful conversations
Academic/Advocacy partner
Episode: Conversation Mode: Power On!
Gretchen Sisson
Sociologist and adoption expert
Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health (ANSIRH), University of California, San Francisco
Episode: Is adoption an alternative to abortion?
Ushma Upadhyay
Abortion researcher at ANSR, UCSF
Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health, UCSF
Episode: League of Mifepristone Defenders
Robin Wallace
Family physician and abortion care provider
Independent/Clinical practice
Episode: League of Mifepristone Defenders
Shelley Sella
A retired OB-GYN who provided third-trimester abortion care
Author of Beyond Limits, Stories of Third-Trimester Abortion Care
Episode: Beyond Limits with Dr. Shelley Sella
Dr. Fran
OBGYN in Rochester, New York, content creator with a rational, evidence-based voice on birth control and misinformation
Independent/Healthcare professional
Episode: Under the Gynfluence With Dr. Fran
Isaac Maddow-Zimet
Data scientist at the Guttmacher Institute
Guttmacher Institute
Episode: About that new Guttmacher report
Jamilah Lemieux
Cultural critic, writer, and author
Slate Care and Feeding ( parenting column)
Episode: Parenting is a serious business. Jamilah Lemieux can help.
Elisa Wells
Co-founder and Access Director of Plan C, an initiative focused on access to abortion pills.
Plan C
Episode: Meet the abortion pill revolution

Hosts

Bev Gray
Co-host; OB-GYN; physician advocate focused on patient-centered abortion care and access.
Jonas Swartz
Co-host; OB-GYN; physician advocate providing clinical context and frontline provider perspectives.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 270 ratings
  • Informative and heart breaking

    I’m so thankful I found this podcast. It demonstrates the importance and impact of autonomy - the choices you have (or don’t) and the long term effects of pregnancy. The topic of who “deserves” healthcare was eye opening. Please keep speaking up. More than ever women need access and bodily autonomy. Thank you for creating this podcast and wha lt you do.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CGRaleigh
    United States8 months ago
  • Outlawed, but not forgotten

    Everyone should know the details about abortion that this podcast unfolds.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Elle_phant
    United States8 months ago
  • Well done

    The episode with Dr. Caitlin Myers was shock full of information. I’ve listened to three episodes and I’m appreciating this immensely.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DMTNYC
    United States8 months ago
  • A Miscarriage is not an Abortion

    It is insensitive to use the words “missed abortion” to talk about miscarriages. I know this is what they’re medically coded as but this is triggering for people who have lost wanted pregnancies. It’s disgusting how the hosts misuse language to make their listeners believe abortions and miscarriage are the same thing.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    kmart354
    United Statesa year ago
  • Wonderful, a MUST listen for all!

    I have recommended this podcast to anyone and everyone! Not only are the episode topics important, the language and discussion is accessible and provides entry points for all people no matter their orientation or mindset. Hoping for many more seasons. Thank you so much for this art, this work is so important. Absolutely blown away, huge fan!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ofc, a social worker
    United Statesa year ago

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Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Strong praise for data-driven guests and practical takeaways for care access.
Well produced, engaging with strong guest lineups.
Informative and heart breaking – autonomy and access shine through.
Many find the narratives powerful and essential in understanding abortion care.
Language sensitivity varies by episode; some listeners felt terminology could be improved.

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League of Mifepristone Defenders
Q: Can medication abortion be considered safe when prescribed via telehealth?
Yes. The guest experts and studies presented indicate that telehealth medication abortion is safe and effective, with adverse events being rare and overall outcomes comparable to traditional in-person care.
Beyond Limits with Dr. Shelley Sella
Q: Can you talk about the differences in training between midwives and traditional medical residency?
Training with midwives emphasized observation, environment, and gradual, apprenticeship-style learning, which contrasts with the hierarchical, regimented medical residency approach and led to a more holistic, patient-centered practice.
About that new Guttmacher report
Q: Were there surprising trends or surprising data points that stood out for you?
Despite a decline in cross-state travel, the absolute number of abortions remained fairly stable from 2023 to 2025, with travel still accounting for a significant share of care. The scale and distance of travel have increased, and Illinois emerged as a central hub for traveling patients, reflecting policy and funding dynamics that shape where people seek care.
Parenting is a serious business. Jamilah Lemieux can help.
Q: Why discuss abortion on a podcast about outlawed healthcare and parenting?
Because the decision to continue or terminate a pregnancy is deeply tied to parenting realities, and understanding this helps contextualize the broader impact of abortion access on families.
Meet the abortion pill revolution
Q: What has made the process of accessing abortion pills more available and less medicalized?
Elisa Wells discusses the lessons learned from international family planning and how those insights were applied to create Plan C, allowing access to abortion pills in the U.S. in innovative ways.

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The show centers on how abortion access and care are affected by legal, political, and logistical barriers across the United States. Across recent episodes, conversations span court actions surrounding mifepristone and telehealth, the lived experiences of patients and providers, late-term abortion care, and efforts to counter misinformation with evidence-based medicine. Data-driven insights from research institutes sit alongside frontline storytelling, audits of policy impacts, and practical paths to navigate travel, funding, and care access in restrictive environments. A standout pattern is the blend of rigorous analysis with compassionate patient perspectives, and a willingness to tackle controversial topics with clear, accessible languag... more

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2. Gretchen Sisson
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5. Shelley Sella
6. Dr. Fran
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