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Boston Marathon
Marathon Training
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World Championships
Marathon Running
California International Marathon
Olympics
New York City Marathon
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Flagstaff, Arizona
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Houston Half Marathon
Julia Paternain
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Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson are professional marathoners chasing fast times and big goals on the roads. Training out of Flagstaff, Arizona, they’ve got plenty of stories from the grind of big mileage, the chaos of race travel, the highs and lows of racing on the world stage and the random stuff that happens between workouts. With a passion for storytelling, running culture, and building comm... more

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Steph Bruce joins Jacob and Rory at the new Run Flagstaff studio for episode 43 -- recorded six days after she and Rory both ran the Broken Arrow Sky Race Ascent. They start there, comparing notes on what is genuinely the hardest race either of them ... more

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Jacob and Rory check in on what's been a rocky few weeks for Jacob's Achilles -- paratendon inflammation that's forced him to pull most of his summer road races and lean hard into cross training. Rory previews hi... more

Brady Holmer is back for his third appearance, which officially makes him the most tenured guest in Out and Back history. He's a week out from Grandma's Marathon, coming off a stress injury and a training block built around high bike volume, durabili... more

David Roche -- ultra marathoner, elite running coach, and what Rory's calling the godfather of the high carb revolution -- joins the Out and Back for episode 40. He started as a running back at Columbia, spent years coaching before ever being competi... more

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David Roche
Ultra marathoner, elite running coach, and proponent of high-carb fueling
Independent coach/athlete
Episode: #40 David Roche - The Rules of High Carb Training, How to Train the Gut, Fatigue Resistance, & Training the Pros
John Gay
Host of Shakeout Podcast
Shakeout Podcast
Episode: #39 Between Reps - Ottawa Marathon Edition
Vinny Mauri
Professional marathoner
Running community in Ohio
Episode: #38 Vinny Mauri - Untold Stories from a 2:05 Marathon Debut + Training with the Out & Back Boys in Flagstaff soon?
Molly Seidel
Olympic marathon medalist, trail runner
Flagstaff athlete
Episode: #37 Molly Seidel - Marathons to Trails, Western States 100 miler, How to keep running fun
Rory Linkletter
Professional marathoner, coach
Out and Back / Thompson Trained
Episode: #36 - How to taper for a Marathon and How to Recover After | Shakeout Podcast with John Gay
Jacob Thomson
Professional marathoner, coach
Out and Back / Thompson Trained
Episode: #36 - How to taper for a Marathon and How to Recover After | Shakeout Podcast with John Gay
Ben Rosario
Former NAZ Elite coach, founder of NAZ Elite, race director of The Marathon Project
The Marathon Project / NAZ Elite
Episode: #33 Ben Rosario - Running Industry Insider, Professional Coach and Founder of NAZ Elite, Race Director, Running Store Owner
Griff Duncan
Hybrid athlete turned pure runner, coach to Rory
coached by Rory
Episode: #31 - Listener Call In Show, We answer your marathon questions and discuss all the hot takes.
Gabby Henteman
Olympic Trials qualifier, known for Instagram memes
Road to the Trials podcast guest
Episode: #31 - Listener Call In Show, We answer your marathon questions and discuss all the hot takes.

Hosts

Rory Linkletter
Co-host of the show; professional marathoner with experience coaching and competing at the highest levels
Jacob Thomson
Co-host of the show; professional marathoner with coaching background

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 95 ratings
  • Elite insights

    Love the insight to elites and willingness to give honest takes and advice

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    canada_eventer
    Canada7 days ago
  • Not-so-hidden gem of a running podcast

    This podcast is a true delight-thoughtful, articulate opinionated pro runners giving a view of the sport it’s hard to get elsewhere. The hosts are also fantastic interviewers who let their guests speak but who also ask challenging and provoking questions.

    They remarked they have a lower female listenership-FWIW, I’m a woman and really appreciate the spotlight they have put on women runners in their interviews!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mary Pagones
    United Statesa month ago
  • Week after week!

    Really glad to have found Out and Back through the Life in Stride podcast. JT and Rory offer a great mix of humor and insights. I consume a ton of running content Out and Back is always at the top of my list every week.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Stitmas
    United States2 months ago
  • Insightful & Entertaining

    Always some really good nuggets of info and perspective + refreshingly entertaining! Great hosts, guests, and segments. Keep it rolling fellas!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dylan from NE
    United States2 months ago
  • Another running podcast? I’m in.

    New listener when you joined SandyBoy Productions and I’m hooked. Great content, banter, and discussion of all things running. Thanks for making the miles fly by! Sincerely, another Lady Listener

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    stkiley
    United States3 months ago

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Guests are varied and high-caliber, contributing strong coaching and racing perspectives.
Listeners describe it as a go-to for race-week prep and post-race analysis.
The show is praised for real-world training details and engaging banter without losing technical depth.
Hosts deliver a mix of humor and expert running insights, creating a relatable yet informative vibe.

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How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#25
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#12
Canada/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#58
United Kingdom/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#74
Italy/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#95
Australia/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#132
Germany/Sports/Running

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

#30 Ed Eyestone - From being an Olympian to Coaching Them, Elite Marathon Training Philosophy, What's Difference in Today's Era of Running and Training
Q: What changes have you seen in college athletics with transfers and NIL, and how does that affect BYU?
Eyestone explains that NIL and transfer rules have forced BYU to adapt rosters and recruitment, balancing domestic talent with selective international adds, while leveraging BYU's strong culture and development pathway to retain top athletes.
#25 Jess Tonn McClain - Boston Marathon, Marathon Fueling, Bicarb for Long Races, Keeping Training Fun, Lower Mileage Approach to the Marathon
Q: How is your training going for the Boston Marathon?
Jess shared that she has been ramping up her training, feeling great, and is balancing high performance while enjoying other aspects of life.
#22 - Mailbag, Boston Marathon Fields, Training Updates
Q: Any chance of an Out and Back shakeout in Boston?
Yes, Rory and Jacob are considering organizing a shakeout run in Boston if there is enough interest.
#22 - Mailbag, Boston Marathon Fields, Training Updates
Q: How long should it take for a non-elite runner to get from 50 to 100 miles per week?
It varies greatly based on the individual, but consistency and proper training are key.
#22 - Mailbag, Boston Marathon Fields, Training Updates
Q: Does heart rate matter or is it all about perceived effort?
Heart rate can be helpful, but understanding perceived effort should come first.

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Two professional marathoners host a podcast centered on high-mileage training, race strategy, and the realities of elite endurance racing. Episodes mix technical training talk, race breakdowns, and culture-shaping conversations with world-class athletes, coaches, and industry insiders. Noteworthy aspects include candid banter, behind-the-scenes access to training camps and race weekends, and a balance of serious coaching insight with relatable storytelling that appeals to both competitive runners and enthusiasts curious about the pro lifestyle.

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Recent guests on Out and Back include:

1. David Roche
2. John Gay
3. Vinny Mauri
4. Molly Seidel
5. Rory Linkletter
6. Jacob Thomson
7. Ben Rosario
8. Griff Duncan

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