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Original Jurisdiction

David Lat
Supreme Court
Donald Trump
Dunn Isaacson Rhee
Pro Bono Work
Marriage Equality
Trump Administration
FTX
Sam Bankman-Fried
Trial Law
Sean Combs
Free Speech
AI In Law
Mergers and Acquisitions
Special Counsel
Yale Law School
Legal Profession
Artificial Intelligence
Biglaw
Google Antitrust Litigation
US Attorney's Office

Original Jurisdiction, a podcast about law and the legal profession, features host David Lat interviewing some of the most interesting, influential, and important people in the world of law. It's the companion podcast to Lat's Substack newsletter of the same name. You can follow David on Twitter (@DavidLat) or email him at davidlat@substack.com, and you can subscribe to his newsletter at davidlat.... more

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The rise of the management service organization (MSO) will reshape—and is already reshaping—the legal industry. In terms of important trends for the business of law, it’s up there with the rise of AI. But unlike AI, relatively few people know much ab... more

Within the world of legal nerds, there has been a lot of buzz lately about originalism, the theory of constitutional interpretation that calls for interpreting the Constitution based on the original public meaning of its provisions. Some of this migh... more

Earlier this month, Jaime Santos joined Proskauer Rose, making her the latest in a series of appellate advocates to switch firms in 2026. She came from Goodwin, where she practiced for more than a dozen years and served as co-head of the Supreme Cour... more

Five years ago this fall, Mathew Rosengart made international headlines when he secured the termination of the 13-year conservatorship of pop icon Britney Spears. But while he might be most famous for how he helped #FreeBritney, Rosengart has litigat... more

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Recent Guests

Sherif Girgis
Constitutional law professor and leading originalism scholar, formerly clerked for Justice Samuel Alito
Harvard Law School
Episode: The Disappointed Originalist: Sherif Girgis
Jaime Santos
Co-Chair of the Compensation and Benefits Litigation Practice at Proskauer Rose
Proskauer Rose
Episode: ‘There’s Always A Way’: Jaime Santos
Mathew Rosengart
Co-chair of the Media and Entertainment Litigation Group at Greenberg Traurig
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Episode: The Making Of A Celebrity Litigator: Mathew Rosengart
Halimah DeLaine Prado
General Counsel of Google since 2020; former litigator and corporate counsel
Google
Episode: Google Goes All In On Legal AI: Halimah DeLaine Prado
Molly Abraham
General Counsel of Coinbase
Coinbase
Episode: Building A Legal Playbook For Crypto’s Next Chapter: Molly Abraham
Avi Weitzman
Co-chair of Complex Litigation and Arbitration at Paul Hastings
Paul Hastings
Episode: Biglaw’s Embrace Of Contingency Litigation
Eva Cole
Co-chair of Antitrust and Competition Practice at Winston & Strawn
Winston & Strawn
Episode: Biglaw’s Embrace Of Contingency Litigation
Evan Meyerson
Managing Director at Burford Capital
Burford Capital
Episode: Biglaw’s Embrace Of Contingency Litigation
Benjamin Gruenstein
Former Cravath partner, founder of Gruenstein Law
Gruenstein Law
Episode: From Cravath Partner To Boutique Founder: Ben Gruenstein

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David Lat
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The Disappointed Originalist: Sherif Girgis
Q: Would you agree with Justice Alito that trying to overrule Obergefell is, at this point, not a realistic prospect?
Girgis agrees regarding the current Court, saying he cannot imagine four justices voting to hear such a case and doubts a legislature would mount a serious challenge. He cautions that political possibilities may change over a longer horizon.
The Disappointed Originalist: Sherif Girgis
Q: What is the foundational justification for originalism?
Girgis argues that originalism follows from the importance of authority: honoring an authoritative legal instrument means interpreting it according to the interpretive methods accepted when it was adopted. Authority enables coordination that serves the common good.
‘There’s Always A Way’: Jaime Santos
Q: What is the most meaningful case you've worked on, and why?
Wilkinson v. Garland, where I argued before the Supreme Court on behalf of an immigrant, was meaningful because of the high stakes for the client, the coalition of justices, and the demonstration that careful advocacy can change the course of law and life for a family.
‘There’s Always A Way’: Jaime Santos
Q: What was the turning point in your career that reaffirmed appellate work as your focus?
A turning point came after working on Teva v. Santos and engaging in pro bono appeals, which solidified my passion for appellate work and even sparked the idea of pursuing a potential Supreme Court clerkship.
‘There’s Always A Way’: Jaime Santos
Q: How did you decide to specialize in ERISA and benefits litigation?
I looked for a niche where I could excel because the field had few strong appellate specialists, and I could combine administrative law, statutory interpretation, and complex procedural issues to carve out a unique practice. This also aligned with the opportunity at Proskauer to grow that space.

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This show centers on law and the legal profession, featuring in-depth conversations with prominent attorneys, judges, and industry leaders. Episodes repeatedly explore litigation strategy, BigLaw economics, appellate and Supreme Court practice, government service, and the evolving role of technology—especially AI—in law firms and client work. Notable threads include how funding models and contingency arrangements are reshaping plaintiff-side litigation, the entrepreneurial path of boutique firms, and the interface between public service and private practice. A recurring strength is the combination of practitioner experience, policy context, and journalistic insight, often with practical takeaways for listeners who want to understand high-st... more

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