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No Nonsense Business and Tech Talk. Just two business partners who’ve survived nearly two decades of client deadlines, all-nighters, stealing each other’s fries, and somehow still speaking at family events.

In 2009 they co-founded Oodle – a digital marketing agency that started with two laptops, zero clients, and an unhealthy amount of confidence. Sixteen years later it’s one of the sharpest inde... more

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What happens when a lifelong Mac and Windows user tries Omarchy for the first time?

In Episode 22 of Not Brothers, Mark Hughes installs the Try Omarchy experience on his Mac while Ryan Hughes walks him through the operating system, its keyboard-firs... more

Omarchy is moving fast—and AI is changing both what the project can build and what its security team can find.

In Episode 21 of Not Brothers, Ryan Hughes and Mark Hughes cover Omarchy’s new website, new infrastructure backing, global meetups, and th... more

No agenda. No single topic. Somehow, still a theme.

In Episode 20 of Not Brothers, Mark Hughes and Ryan Hughes start with the latest work around Omarchy, including security tradeoffs, a broader user base, and the Omacom Foundation’s growing investme... more

Omarchy began as David Heinemeier Hansson’s opinionated Arch Linux setup. Barely more than a year later, it has grown into a distinct Linux distribution, a fast-moving open-source ecosystem, and the centerpiece of the $10 million Omacom Foundation.

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Websites have changed dramatically—from dial-up pages and separate mobile sites to headless CMS platforms, static site generators, personalization, and AI-managed publishing workflows.

In Episode 18, Ryan and Mark look back on nearly two decades of ... more

AI was supposed to save time. So why does it feel like it is making us work more?

In Episode 17 of Not Brothers, Mark and Ryan unpack the AI efficiency paradox: the strange pressure to keep agents running around the clock, maximize every subscriptio... more

AI loops are changing how people get real work done with agents.

In Episode 16 of Not Brothers, Mark and Ryan break down what “loops” actually mean in practice — not as vague AI hype, but as a better way to structure work: define the goal, write the... more

What happens when a digital agency starts building and launching its own software products? In Episode 15 of Not Brothers, Mark and Ryan talk about the lessons they’re learning from bringing Oodle-built products like Herald and Nebula to market. Afte... more

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