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The Dismantling Doctrine Podcast

Dr Clint Heacock
Christian Nationalism
Project 2025
Donald Trump
Deconstruction
Religious Trauma Syndrome
Christianity
Evangelicalism
Bill Gothard
Spirituality
American Democracy
Trump Administration
Doug Wilson
Heritage Foundation
Christian Patriarchy
Fundamentalism
Christian Fundamentalism
Evangelical Christianity
Cults
Religious Trauma
Tia Levings

Reconstruction after Deconstruction--after leaving destructive religious dogma behind!

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes349Founded10 years ago
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Latest Episodes

I had the opportunity to interview Ann Russo, LCSW — a licensed clinical social worker and theologian — to discuss her ground-breaking work in treating religious trauma. Russo has developed the Religious Trauma Treatment Model (RTTM), the first clini... more

In this week's episode, I speak with Dr. Tina Schermer-Sellers about the damage caused by evangelical purity culture and religious sexual shame. Dr. Tina traces how her own body-positive upbringing contrasted with what she saw in her therapy students... more

In this episode, I interviewed Chelsea Kim Long about her forthcoming book, Faithfully Dissident Daughters: Reclaiming Christian Womanhood Beyond Patriarchy. The conversation opens with a discussion of the Southern Baptist denomination's recent rulin... more

Author Meg Calvin joins me on the podcast to share her journey from preaching at age 13 in the Methodist church to leaving full-time ministry in 2018. She reflects on how people-pleasing and unhealed childhood wounds drove her pastoral work, and we c... more

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Recent Guests

Tina Schermer-Sellers
Marriage and family therapist, sex therapist, educator and author
Episode: Healing Sexual Religious Trauma Syndrome (with Dr Tina Schermer-Sellers)
Chelsea Kim Long
Author of Faithfully Dissident Daughters, Reclaiming Christian Womanhood Beyond Patriarchy
Author
Episode: Faithfully Dissident Daughters: Reclaiming Christian Womanhood Beyond Patriarchy (with Chelsea Kim Long)
Meg Calvin
Author; former pastor and songwriter who experienced a mystical encounter with Jesus
Author of There He Holds Her
Episode: "There, He Holds Her": Ministry, Mysticism, and Reclaiming a Stolen Life (with Meg Calvin)
Janice Selbie
Author of The Guru Gene: From Blind Faith to Clear Thinking in an Age of Influence
MPCC
Episode: The Guru Gene: From Blind Faith to Clear Thinking (with Janice Selbie, MPCC)
Josh Foster
Interviewee; former missionary kid who became a licensed therapist and coach
Episode: Missionary Kid, Religious Trauma, and Leaving Christianity (with Josh Foster)
Rob Thain Smith
Author of Four and Twenty Blackbirds, The Trial of Paul Petry
Author
Episode: Four and Twenty Blackbirds: Inside Mars Hill and the Trial of Paul Petry (with Rob Thain Smith)
Paule Patterson
Guest on the show sharing his journey from pastor to Christian mystic
Episode: From Pulpit to the Path: Recovery, Deconstruction, and Christian Mysticism (with Paule Patterson)
Beth Granger
Author of Born and Razed, survivor of Grenville Christian College
Author, survivor
Episode: Born and Razed: Surviving the Cult Was Only Half the Battle (with Beth Granger)
Morgan Piercy
Licensed Professional Counselor specializing in religious trauma syndrome
Private practice: deconstructionkc.com
Episode: More Than Church Hurt: A Therapist's Guide to Religious Trauma Syndrome (with Morgan Piercy, LPC)

Host

Dr. Clint Haycock
Host of The Dismantling Doctrine Podcast; focuses on deconstruction, religious trauma, and critique of Christian nationalism; has background as evangelical pastor/teacher.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 246 ratings
  • Love this. Great deconstruction of the lies told by Christian thought leaders in the parenting sphere. Useful for Christians looking to wisely select healthier materials, and deconstructed/deconstructing folks to see what was true and choose their path forward

    Podcast Addict
    5
    indigonegative
    a year ago
  • Not religious based.

    Do your research before you listen.. Don’t believe everything you hear.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    j6ade
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great show

    Your show reminds me of two great bands; Thin Lizzie and Wishbone Ash. I’m not sure why! Maybe it’s your hard-driving lyrics with a rock-n-roll beat and a true knowledge of the instrument.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    J Clam
    United States2 years ago
  • If you sometimes miss the part of church where a straight, white man tells you what to think and do…

    Clint is here to mansplain deconversion to you!

    The episodes with no guests feature Clint clearly reading straight off pages of typed notes in a monotone. Episodes with guests feature pointless interruptions by Clint, especially female guests. For example, I loved hearing from Katherine North on the latest episode but it was almost impossible to keep listening because of Clint’s constant talking over her.

    If I missed straight, white, cis men acting like they have it all figured out, I’d go ba... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    drbuttons
    United States3 years ago
  • Great

    Great podcast for understanding Christian nationalism

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SamNash01
    United States3 years ago

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Listeners appreciate the depth and rigor in discussions of religious systems and trauma.
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Guests are frequently praised for expertise and insider perspectives.

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Healing Sexual Religious Trauma Syndrome (with Dr Tina Schermer-Sellers)
Q: Can you just talk really quickly about the potential for psychedelics to heal trauma?
She says MDMA-assisted therapy has shown promise in trauma treatment, but emphasizes preparation, professional monitoring and integration afterward. She argues that it should be provided in a safe therapeutic context, not as unsupervised drug use.
Healing Sexual Religious Trauma Syndrome (with Dr Tina Schermer-Sellers)
Q: How do you go about beginning to take people through the therapeutic process to heal and find intimacy?
Schermer-Sellers describes her MESS model: build a foundation of accurate sex education, name and share what happened, work toward accepting and valuing the body, and aim for a new legacy.
Faithfully Dissident Daughters: Reclaiming Christian Womanhood Beyond Patriarchy (with Chelsea Kim Long)
Q: What do you hope conversations around your work will achieve in church groups or among individuals exploring faith deconstruction?
She hopes to spark dialogue, enable honest sharing of experiences, and encourage embodied spiritual practices that can be adopted in both Christian spaces and environments outside of traditional church settings, ultimately reducing shame and isolation.
Faithfully Dissident Daughters: Reclaiming Christian Womanhood Beyond Patriarchy (with Chelsea Kim Long)
Q: How does your personal journey shape the message of your book and your current religious identity?
Long describes a move from a tightly bound evangelical framework to a post-evangelical stance, incorporating IFS-based self-work and a broader, more inclusive interpretation of Christian faith that honors authentic self-expression and belonging without requiring conformity to patriarchal norms.
Faithfully Dissident Daughters: Reclaiming Christian Womanhood Beyond Patriarchy (with Chelsea Kim Long)
Q: What is the core audience or intended reader for Faithfully Dissident Daughters, and what should someone gain from reading it?
The book aims to open conversations about women's lived experiences within Christian contexts, offering vulnerability to normalize honesty, while also providing practical guidance on embodied spiritual practices for those who want to retain Christian identity, including group discussion prompts and resources.

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A hard-hitting discussion space focused on religious deconstruction, trauma, and critique of Christian nationalism. Episodes center on insider accounts of high-control groups, survivor testimonies, and rigorous analysis of religious institutions, their governance, and cultural impact. Notable strengths include a steady stream of expert guests (therapists, authors, journalists) and a willingness to tackle difficult topics—often with practical guidance for healing and recovery. The show frequently connects personal journeys with broader systemic critique, and some episodes blend historical context with contemporary policy issues. This combination makes it appealing to listeners seeking thoughtful, evidence-based exploration of religion, faith... more

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4. Janice Selbie
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