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In this weekly podcast, composer, arranger, and producer Eric Copeland of Make Music Income talks about his continuing journey to Make Music Income with Music Licensing, Music Production, Music Publishing, Sheet Music, Artist Income, Online Channel Income, and more. Eric also interviews people from across the spectrum of the music business, specifically asking: "How do you make music income?"

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Hey it’s our 5th Anniversary on Make Music Income and we’re celebrating with some announcements and a special video that goes all the way back to our first one 5 years ago this month!

If you are looking to make music AND make income from the music y... more

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If you have watched this channel, especially my live videos you know the name “Wolfgang Wohrle.” Wolfgang is a German composer who recently had his largest quarterly PRO quarter with BMI directly and only from sync licensing.

But Wolfgang didn’t go ... more

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In this video I join with Dave Kropf of @52Cues to talk about how we see the Future of Sync Licensing.

#musiclicensing #synclicensing #musicroyalties

Learn More About 52 Cues:

www.52cues.com/

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I just received my 2nd highest BMI check ever.

But here’s the twist: Barely one single song payment made up more than 10% of it, and I didn't even own 100% of many of the songs I was paid.

So today I want to share some things about

* How I am gett... more

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Wolfgang Wohrle
German composer, library sync artist
BMI libraries, BMG library
Episode: EP171. The Road to $50K Per Quarter in Sync | Wolfgang's Story
Dave Kropf
Founder/Producer at 52 Cues
52 Cues
Episode: EP170. The Future of Sync with Dave Kropf of @52Cues | For Beginners, For Pros, & What About A.I?
Jody Friedman
Music supervisor and sync agent, responsible for over 10,000 music placements
APM Music
Episode: EP163. How A Music Supervisor Really Works | An Interview with Jody Friedman | Music Supervisor Series
Joe Gilder
Musician and creator of Home Studio Corner, an online platform for audio education
Home Studio Corner
Episode: EP138. Music & Business with Joe Gilder | Best Music Tools, Music Advice, Online Tools, A.I.
Randy McGravey
Sync licensing specialist and YouTuber
Randy McGravey Music
Episode: EP131. The Secret Sauce to Find Sync Libraries to Pitch To | With Randy McGravey
Christian Hale
Nashville producer, songwriter, engineer, and sync licensing guru.
Episode: EP129. Is There Really ANY Good Deal in Music? Sync Reps vs. Music Libraries with Christian Hale
Michèle Vice-Maslin
Emmy-winning, number one hit music songwriter, producer, publisher, and arranger.
Episode: EP111. Getting Music Placements with Michèle Vice-Maslin | LA Veteran Sync Producer, Songwriter
Marcus Manderson
A composer and producer specializing in sync licensing and trailer music.
Episode: EP 109. From $$ to $$$$ in Sync PRO with "Da Fingaz" Marcus Manderson | How He Did It!
Marco Valerio Romano
Music composer and producer
Episode: EP 105. 🎹 🖥️ What DAW Should I Switch To? Which One Would YOU Pick? Replacing Logic Pro AI 🤖

Host

Eric Copeland
Host of Make Music Income Podcast (and The Make Music Income Podcast); focuses on music licensing, production, publishing, and related income streams.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 38 ratings
  • 5 stars all around!

    Finally a podcast I can 100% relate to. Excellent conversations and content. Thanks for this guys!

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    Canada5 years ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Strong emphasis on collaboration and partnerships supports real-world outcomes.
Discussions are honest about challenges and AI debates in the industry.
Audience praise practical, actionable guidance for building multiple income streams.
Listeners appreciate long-form, detail-oriented episodes that translate to real revenue opportunities.
Guests bring credible, experience-based insights into licensing and library work.

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EP171. The Road to $50K Per Quarter in Sync | Wolfgang's Story
Q: When did you start seeing payments after your first album in 2021?
The first royalty check arrived in August 2021, about three months after the May 2021 album release, with an initial $263 payment, followed by a steady accumulation as more albums entered libraries and placements began.
EP170. The Future of Sync with Dave Kropf of @52Cues | For Beginners, For Pros, & What About A.I?
Q: Is it feasible to quit a day job and pursue sync full-time, and when might that happen?
For many, it's a long, slow grind—often five to ten years—before moving toward four- or five-figure quarterly PRO income. The panel stresses patience, persistence, and building a network and a large, sustainable catalog before considering full-time transition.
EP170. The Future of Sync with Dave Kropf of @52Cues | For Beginners, For Pros, & What About A.I?
Q: What role will AI play in music for sync, and should newcomers rely on it?
AI can assist with reference work and ideation, but relying on it to compose or replace human craft is risky. The speakers warn against using AI as a shortcut and emphasize maintaining human-driven creativity, learning the process, and collaborating with others.
EP170. The Future of Sync with Dave Kropf of @52Cues | For Beginners, For Pros, & What About A.I?
Q: What does the future of sync look like for someone just starting in 2026?
There are more opportunities than ever due to a proliferation of libraries and TV networks, but the field is more competitive and demands higher quality. New entrants should be fast learners, great networkers, and potentially willing to partner or join a team to scale output.
EP168. The New Music Economy Is About Service, Not Stardom | With Auralie from PLV Music
Q: How does AI figure into her workflow and business?
She uses AI to spark creativity and generate content ideas, scripts, and outreach efficiency, while keeping final music production a human-driven process to preserve originality and quality.

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1. Wolfgang Wohrle
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3. Jody Friedman
4. Joe Gilder
5. Randy McGravey
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