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In The Dark

The New Yorker
Haditha
Iraq War
War Crimes
US Marines
The New Yorker
Surrogacy
Jeremy Bamber
Marine Corps
Iraq
Military Justice System
Khaled Jamal
Haditha Killings
Curtis Flowers
In the Dark
Dubai
Military Accountability
White House Farm
Latifa Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum
Reading Education
Condition Payments

In the Dark, hosted by Madeleine Baran, is an award-winning investigative-journalism podcast that started in 2016. Its first season looked at the mysterious abduction of Jacob Wetterling in rural Minnesota and the lack of accountability that sheriffs face when they fail to solve cases. Season 2 examined the case of Curtis Flowers, who was tried six times for the same crime. In 2020, In the Dark re... more

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Three weeks after we released “The Journey,” Guojun Xuan and Silvia Zhang were arrested, and local prosecutors charged them in a child-abuse case. The F.B.I. is now looking into the couple, and new details have emerged about what happened inside thei... more

Will the children be returned to the couple’s mansion? As the judge reaches a decision, Ava examines a confidential court file and makes a startling discovery.

New Yorker subscribers get early, ad-free access to “The Journey.” In Apple Podcasts, tap... more

We received tragic news this week from Winona, Mississippi. Curtis Flowers was found dead in his home at age fifty-six.

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One of the surrogates secretly takes home the baby she carried. And, in an unprecedented circumstance, it seems like she might have the chance to keep her.

New Yorker subscribers get early, ad-free access to “The Journey.” In Apple Podcasts, tap the... more

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Recent Guests

Maria Castellanos
Surrogate who carried two children for Silvia Zhang and Guojun Xuan
Episode: The Journey Update: The D.A. Brings Charges
Brooke Teefe
Court-appointed attorney for the child living with her surrogate in Virginia
Episode: The Journey, Episode 5: The Children
Jamie Majeris
Attorney who represents survivors of sexual abuse
Episode: The Journey, Episode 5: The Children
Bob Powell
Attorney who represents parents and children in lawsuits against child welfare agencies
Episode: The Journey, Episode 5: The Children
Sean McMillan
Attorney who specializes in lawsuits against child welfare agencies
Episode: The Journey, Episode 5: The Children
Charles Nelson
Professor of neuroscience and pediatrics at Harvard Medical School
Harvard Medical School
Episode: The Journey, Episode 5: The Children
Mitchell Krems
Attorney for Guojun in the dependency case
Episode: The Journey, Episode 5: The Children
Kayla Elliott
Surrogate who carried a child for Sylvia and Guojun
Episode: The Journey, Episode 5: The Children
Amber Applegarth
The couple's first surrogate
Episode: The Journey, Episode 5: The Children

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Madeleine Baran
Host of In The Dark; senior voice in investigative journalism for a long-form audio series

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 38.8k ratings
  • Not free

    Absolutely love the podcast, but putting the final episode behind a paywall is a no from me. Won’t be listening to this company again.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    morgo1645
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Very Disappointing

    All of these podcasts are free and this one only allows a couple of free episodes and then you have to pay to receive any others. This isn’t even a situation of subscribers get new episodes first and others wait and eventually get. Non subscribers don’t get them at all. Don’t waste your time with any podcasts from The New Yorker. Listen to the same real life stories through other podcasts.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Jcifmrjfi
    United Statesa month ago
  • WHY DO YOU HAVE PAY FOR THE LAST EPISODE?!?! 😖

    I was happily listening to S7 when I realized that you HAD to pay to listen to the last episode! WHY?! I HATE when they do this!! 😖 (Hence, the one star ⭐️ I gave it; not because of the story, AT ALL!!😒) And THEN, I looked through the other past seasons & I discovered that in THOSE seasons, the SAME thing: you get the first couple of episodes for free & then you have to pay to get access to the later ones!! It really STINKS because I was really liking S7 and this podcast got recommended to me ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Hufflepuff Potterhead
    United Statesa month ago
  • RIP Curtis Flowers 🕊️

    Devastated to hear about Curtis’ passing. May he rest in peace. So many of us have been cheering him on for years.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ksbyva2
    United Statesa month ago
  • Don’t bother listening

    I found the story very interesting and it raises many good points about the ethics of surrogacy. However, paywalling the last episode is absurd. I have never been so annoying with such a blatant cash grab.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Bobert954
    United Statesa month ago

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The show is seen as a high-quality, impactful journalism effort, though some complain about access and editorial direction after the New Yorker collaboration.
Listeners praise rigorous, well-researched investigations and charismatic storytelling.
Subscribers note value in ad-free/deeper analyses, but a subset dislikes paywalls and subscriber-only sections.

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The Journey, Episode 5: The Children
Q: Why did they do it?
Kayla Elliott said she wanted Sylvia and Guojun to explain their actions, which she viewed as causing pain to the surrogates and children.
The Journey, Episode 5: The Children
Q: Do you expect that the family will get their children back?
Guojun's attorney said he could not comment on the closed proceedings but described Sylvia and Guojun as good parents who were trying to act protectively.
Season 2 Update: Five Years Later
Q: How do you rebuild a life after all that?
Curtis reflects on the challenges of living in a place where many still perceive him as guilty, while taking on the immense responsibility of caring for his father who suffers from severe health issues.
Season 3, Episode 3: Sounds Like Murder
Q: Did you think that a war crime had been committed?
I don't have any opinion on that.

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2. Brooke Teefe
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8. Kayla Elliott

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