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Getting Smart Podcast

Getting Smart
Education
Artificial Intelligence
Project-Based Learning
AI In Education
Personalized Learning
Community Engagement
Micro Schools
Work-Based Learning
Equity In Education
K-12 Education
Workforce Development
STEM Education
Higher Education
AI Literacy
Innovation
AI Ethics
Career Pathways
Inquiry-Based Learning
Sustainability
Unbundled Learning

This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership. Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to... more

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In this episode of Catching Up, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia get into what happens after a $2.5 billion settlement lands, and whether "fund real life" is actually a better answer than another wave of mental health apps. They also talk through a st... more

Public education is facing a moment it hasn't seen in decades: shrinking enrollment, an explosion of school choice options, and real questions about who should even be in charge of a district's decisions.

In this episode, host Mason Pashia talks wi... more

A new federal tax credit is launching in January 2027 that could bring real money into public schools, and most districts don't even know it exists yet.

In this episode, host Nate McClennen talks with Antonio Parés, founder and principal of Walnut ... more

Dr. Jane Shore is an education researcher, school co-founder, and author of "People-Based Learning: The Future of Learning is Human" (Routledge, 2026). She joins host Rebecca Midles to talk about her three-part framework, connect, reflect, and affect... more

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Recent Guests

Jane Shore
Education researcher, teacher, school founder, author
School of Thought / author of People-Based Learning
Episode: Are We Designing Schools for Systems or for People? | Jane Shore
Edson Barton
CEO and co-founder of YouScience
YouScience
Episode: Why 'Why Am I Learning This?' Is the Most Important Question in Education | Edson Barton
Joe Ross
President of Reach University, advocate for apprenticeship-degree pathways
Reach University
Episode: How Can Districts Turn Jobs Into Degrees to Build Stronger Teacher Pipelines? | Joe Ross
Tyson Yunkaporta
Author of Sand Talk; Indigenous scholar
Aplich clan, Cape York
Episode: Tell Story: Tyson Yunkaporta on Deep Time, Creolization, and Education
Gersom de Koning
Forthcoming educator at the United World College theater department; former educator, composer, and writer with extensive international education experience
United World College
Episode: How are theatre education and gamification related? | Gersom de Koning
Julie Moore
Assistant Superintendent for Innovation and Learning, Liberty Public Schools
Liberty Public Schools
Episode: Transformation Journey: Liberty Public Schools
Sarah Wickham
Director of Real-World Learning, Liberty Public Schools
Liberty Public Schools
Episode: Transformation Journey: Liberty Public Schools
Chris McNutt
Leader of empathy interview work at the Human Restoration Project
Human Restoration Project
Episode: How can Empathy Interviews Change Education for the Better? | Chris McNutt
Michael Crawford
Vice President of Strategic Initiatives, America Succeeds
America Succeeds
Episode: How Do Schools Build Durable Skills? | Michael Crawford Chris Unger

Hosts

Mason Pasha
Host/part of Getting Smart Podcast team with dual roles in education innovation and program development
Victoria
Co-host/host with Getting Smart, involved in strategic planning and content development

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 84 ratings
  • Relevant and forward thinking

    One of the best forward-thinking podcasts out there if you want to be pushing the frontiers of what’s possible in K12 education and beyond. A must listen to every week.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hispodcast
    United States10 months ago
  • 100% Revlevant Podcast Series

    This podcast series of a must listen for all educators, public, private and charter. The topics are 100% relevant to reimagining education. If you listen to only one episode, choose the one with Aaron Schorn and Trinity Asing. It’s an incredible conversation that gets to the heart of what school could be.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JoshReppun
    United States4 years ago
  • Let’s try OPEN-ENDED questions

    Just listened to my first episode and found the opening painful. Awesome guest (Anant Agarwal from EdX), but the interviewer led with yes/no questions and personal interjections that clearly made the guest uncomfortable. I won’t give up yet, but it was an unfortunate first impression.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Denny@TheLodge
    United States6 years ago
  • Top education podcast!

    Big podcast fan and this is a top pick for teaching and learning topics.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    EduPodcastFan
    United States10 years ago
  • Innovations in learning

    Megan and Tyler do a great job introducing innovations in learning. Topics are interesting. Production quality is high

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tva001
    United States11 years ago

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Listeners value actionable strategies and real-world district case studies.
Many guests and topics are relevant for ed-tech sponsorship and partnership discussions.
Audience finds the show a forward-thinking resource for education leadership and innovation.
Peers note high production quality and engaging guests who bridge theory and practice.

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

How Can Districts Turn Jobs Into Degrees to Build Stronger Teacher Pipelines? | Joe Ross
Q: What does the ideal candidate look like, and how do districts identify and cultivate them without creating debt?
Ideal candidates are local, often older workers who are already in the community (e.g., parents, paraeducators). Districts should use shoulder tapping with partners to identify potential candidates and ensure affordability so debt is not a barrier.
Transformation Journey: Liberty Public Schools
Q: Does it have to be a global experience?
The program allows for client-connected projects or field trips and can be scaled to local contexts while maintaining a broader, real-world lens.
Tell Story: Tyson Yunkaporta on Deep Time, Creolization, and Education
Q: Can you define creolization for us?
Creolization is when two cultures meet with no common language, leading to the emergence of new shared ways of speaking and understanding; both cultures influence each other, with power dynamics shaping how much each is changed, resulting in a halfway culture that enables ongoing dialogue.
How can Empathy Interviews Change Education for the Better? | Chris McNutt
Q: Tell us a little bit about the tool that you've built to make this happen and how it helps teachers, districts, and students.
Polaris Education streamlines the entire empathy interview workflow—from question design and recording to analysis and reporting—so districts can run more conversations with students, automatically translate and anonymize data, and generate listening reports that map quotes to actionable insights and research alongside them.
How Do Schools Build Durable Skills? | Michael Crawford Chris Unger
Q: How did you select the sites for the 16-month study?
We used a grounded approach, identifying schools doing things differently, then selecting those with visible durable skills work across varied geographies and contexts through networks and referrals.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Getting Smart Podcast

What is Getting Smart Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on innovative K-12 education, postsecondary pathways, and lifelong learning, with a steady stream of guests who bring practical, policy-informed perspectives to classroom practice, district leadership, and workforce readiness. Episodes often explore real-world learning models, competency-based approaches, and the role of community and family engagement in transforming schools. Recurrent themes include durable skills, real-world projects, equity, and scalable change across districts, as well as the creative intersection of arts, technology, and pedagogy. A standout feature is the emphasis on actionable strategies—such as apprenticeship-degree pathways, district-wide guarantees, and empathy-centered research—that listeners c... more

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