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Divergent Conversations

Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale
Mental Health
Autism
ADHD
Neurodivergence
Neurodiversity
Neurodivergent Therapy
Self-Diagnosis
Community Support
Therapeutic Relationships
Special Interests
Couple Dynamics
CBT
Cross-Neurotype Communication
Identity Exploration
IFS
DBT
Sensory Experiences
Neurotypicality
Friendship
Social Media Influence

Dr. Megan Neff and Patrick Casale are two Neurodivergent therapists in a neurotypical world. During this podcast, they’ll talk about their own personal experiences as Autistic-ADHDers. They will reflect on their lived experience as AuDHD mental health professionals, and entrepreneurs, as well as offer clinical guidance, and support. Episodes will be conversational in nature, and they’ll interview ... more

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Discovering you’re ADHD later in life can be a profound and disorienting experience—especially when it means re-examining your relationships, identity, and even your sense of self. For many ADHD adults, the post-diagnosis journey brings unique challe... more

After discovering you’re Autistic or have ADHD, you most likely started to re-examine the past—and the realization of missed cues or misunderstood moments can bring up nostalgia, relief, and even regret. Revisiting friendships, relationships, and lif... more

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Language matters, especially when it shapes how we, as neurodivergent people, are seen and understood. Conversations about an alleged "Autism epidemic" are everywhere—and can lead to misinformation, stigma, and feelings of shame for Autistic people a... more

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Learning you’re Autistic or ADHD—whether through diagnosis, self-identification, or discovery—can spark relief, uncertainty, and a cascade of new questions. Navigating not only the process of finding out, but also what happens next, is a profound and... more

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Recent Guests

Dr. Donna Henderson
Author of 'Is This Autism?' and expert in the field of autism diagnostics.
Episode: Episode 123 (Season 4): Not an Epidemic: Behind the Rise in Autism Diagnoses [featuring Dr. Donna Henderson]
Dr. Adam Lalor
Educational psychologist and vice president for Neurodiversity Research and Innovation at Landmark College
Landmark College
Episode: Episode 112 (Season 2): Rethinking Higher Education for Neurodivergent Learners [featuring Adam Lalor]
Dr. Stacy Greeter
Autistic ADHD and OCD psychiatrist
Sarasota, Florida
Episode: Episode 102: FLASHBACK — OCD (Part 3): Differentiating OCD, Autism, and Tourettes Behaviors and Enhancing Healthcare [featuring Dr. Stacy Greeter]
Yunetta Spring-Smith
Trauma trainer, EMDR certified trainer, and founder of Ground Breakers
Spring Forth Counseling, Ground Breakers
Episode: Episode 99: FLASHBACK — Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs (#4): Rewiring Beliefs to Face Your Inner Critic [featuring Yunetta Smith]
Jak Levine-Pritzker
ADHD coach, mental health advocate, and founder of Authentically ADHD LLC.
Authentically ADHD LLC
Episode: Episode 98: FLASHBACK — In-Between Phase of an Autism Diagnosis: From Asking to Assessment [featuring Jak Levine-Pritzker]
Dr. Debra Brause
Psy D with a focus on neurodiversity and childhood trauma
Episode: Episode 88: Psychoanalysis (Part 3): Impact of Childhood Trauma on Autistic Adults [featuring Debra Brause]
Dr. Kourosh Dini
Clinical psychiatrist, psychoanalyst, and musician focused on ADHD and creativity
Waves of Focus
Episode: Episode 87: Psychoanalysis (Part 2): ADHD Ways to Focus Without Force [featuring Kourosh Dini]
Dr. Karissa Burnett
Depth psychologist and trauma specialist known for bridging science with the soul
Divergent Pathways
Episode: Episode 86: Psychoanalysis (Part 1): Bridging Science With Soul [featuring Dr. Karissa Burnett]
Sheldon Gay
Entrepreneur and Vice Chair of Umbrella US, a neurodivergent affirming nonprofit
Umbrella US
Episode: Episode 84: Giftedness (Part 5): Navigating Giftedness in Marginalized Communities [featuring Sheldon Gay]

Hosts

Patrick Casale
Co-host and Neurodivergent Therapist, sharing insights from lived experience as an AuDHD individual and mental health professional.
Dr. Megan Neff
Co-host and Neurodivergent Therapist, known for her authenticity and clinical expertise in navigating neurodivergence.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 1k ratings
  • AuDHD real talk from psychology professionals

    I have thoroughly enjoyed this podcast from the moment I found it when someone recommended it to another user in a Facebook group I was in. What I especially appreciate about this podcast are its authenticity and its knowledge-based commentary. Both Dr. Neff and Patrick have training in the psychology field (I don’t remember their exact credentials offhand) but they are able to put this training to use to explain to the rest of us why our brains may be functioning the way they are, and they do i... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Valancy
    United States15 days ago
  • The podcasters are so vulnerable and honest it really makes me feel safe & seen! Thank you!

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Tierajade
    24 days ago
  • Great AuDHD discussion!

    I’m recently diagnosed at age 54. I’m sad to think about all the times I could’ve used this knowledge throughout my life to help myself. So many incomprehensible struggles of my younger years now make sense. These two deliver academic-level talk and understanding on the topic, not cutesy/fluffy chit-chat. I like those other types of shows too. But when I want to hear some serious dialogue, this is a great show to queue up.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Disappointed404
    United Statesa month ago
  • Incredibly helpful and validating

    I’ve been listening to this podcast for a little over a year now. It’s been so helpful in my journey of discovering that I have ADHD. The latest series on autistic burnout has been incredible! So many great insights into my nervous system and unmasking process.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SavannahM93
    United States2 months ago
  • Love the unmasking this season

    Wanted to respond to your question in the podcast today and let you know the extent to which this season is touching me. Your unmasking makes the episodes feel like a treat. I regularly check for new episodes this season - and I miss the camaraderie I feel in you both when there’s no new episode yet. I even sometimes wonder what it would be like to participate with you (like, what would I say if I were with you in the room, part of the conversation with you). It’s rare and special. THANK YO... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Michaelzja
    United States2 months ago

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The hosts' blend of personal anecdotes with clinical insights resonates deeply with audiences, providing a sense of community and understanding.
Listeners often highlight the hosts' ability to discuss serious topics in an approachable and engaging manner.
Many value the focus on real-life experiences related to autism and ADHD, finding the discussions both affirming and informative.
Listeners appreciate the raw and authentic conversations about navigating life as neurodivergent individuals.
Feedback frequently notes the importance of the podcast as a resource for neurodivergent people and those seeking to understand them better.

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Episode 121 (Season 3): Burnout City: Burnout Symptoms at a Cellular Level [featuring Dr. Mel Houser]
Q: What will you do about the symptoms?
The guest discusses pacing, reducing sensory input, and learning what triggers symptoms.
Episode 112 (Season 2): Rethinking Higher Education for Neurodivergent Learners [featuring Adam Lalor]
Q: How does Landmark College support sensory needs in a collegiate education setting?
Dr. Lalor outlines that Landmark provides individualized access to sensory fidgets and creates an environment where students can adjust their sensory experiences without needing to request accommodations.
Episode 112 (Season 2): Rethinking Higher Education for Neurodivergent Learners [featuring Adam Lalor]
Q: What does it mean for Landmark to have a neurodiversity affirming education?
Dr. Lalor explains that it involves recognizing students as a cultural group, celebrating their identities, and creating an environment where they can thrive without feeling broken.
Episode 112 (Season 2): Rethinking Higher Education for Neurodivergent Learners [featuring Adam Lalor]
Q: Can you talk a little bit about your passion for advocating for neurodiversity?
Dr. Lalor shares that his passion comes from being neurodivergent himself and having family members who share similar experiences, driving his commitment to support neurodivergent individuals in education.
Episode 108 (Season 2): Using Creativity to Anchor into Aliveness and Humanity
Q: How do you know the difference between, I'm withdrawing because like I'm tired and I just need replenishing, versus, oh, this kind of withdrawal is putting me in a dark space?
Adaptive withdrawal is identified as taking time to rest and recover after significant social interaction, whereas maladaptive withdrawal occurs when isolating leads to increased anxiety or hypervigilance, signaling a need for human connection.

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The conversations are centered around the lived experiences of neurodivergent individuals, primarily focusing on autism and ADHD. The hosts combine personal narratives with clinical insights to explore various topics related to mental health, embracing the complexities of neurodivergence in a neurotypical world. Listeners can expect discussions on themes such as identity development, burnout, advocacy, and the nuances of self-discovery. The approach is characterized by authenticity, vulnerability, and a commitment to amplifying the voices of the neurodivergent community, making this a unique and relatable resource for those navigating similar journeys.

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1. AuDHD Flourishing
2. Meet My Autistic Brain
3. Neurodiversity Podcast
4. Uniquely Human: The Podcast
5. Two Sides of the Spectrum

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1. Dr. Donna Henderson
2. Dr. Adam Lalor
3. Dr. Stacy Greeter
4. Yunetta Spring-Smith
5. Jak Levine-Pritzker
6. Dr. Debra Brause
7. Dr. Kourosh Dini
8. Dr. Karissa Burnett

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