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Divergent Conversations

Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale
Mental Health
Autism
ADHD
Neurodivergence
Neurodiversity
Neurodivergent Therapy
Self-Diagnosis
Community Support
Special Interests
Therapeutic Relationships
Couple Dynamics
CBT
Cross-Neurotype Communication
Identity Exploration
DBT
Ifs
Friendship
Neurotypicality
Sensory Experiences
Social Media Influence

Dr. Megan Neff and Patrick Casale are two Neurodivergent therapists in a neurotypical world. During this podcast, they’ll talk about their own personal experiences as Autistic-ADHDers. They will reflect on their lived experience as AuDHD mental health professionals, and entrepreneurs, as well as offer clinical guidance, and support. Episodes will be conversational in nature, and they’ll interview ... more

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Living through uncertain times as a neurodivergent person can feel overwhelming, with the world constantly shifting and the weight of global and personal challenges piling up. In moments like these, knowing how to show up, preserve your energy, and f... more

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Neuroimmune systems often intertwine with chronic health and neurodivergence, leaving neurodivergent individuals grappling with things like energy management, chronic fatigue, or other long-term health conditions.

In this flashback episode, Patrick ... more

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ADHD and Autistic burnout can feel like an endless cycle of overwhelm, exhaustion, and frustration—especially for those who live at the intersection of both identities. Many AuDHD individuals struggle to distinguish between ADHD burnout and autistic ... more

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Neurodivergent individuals often find mental health topics like OCD, autism, and ADHD intertwined in ways that can complicate their personal narratives and self-identity.

In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD m... more

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Brittany Goff
Licensed clinical social worker and clinical director at Zen Psychological Center
Zen Psychological Center
Episode: Episode 141: FLASHBACK — OCD: I-CBT and Neurodivergent Approaches to OCD [featuring Brittany Goff]
Sheldon Gay
Entrepreneur, Vice Chair of the neurodivergent affirming nonprofit Umbrella US.
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Episode: Episode 140: FLASHBACK — Giftedness: Navigating Giftedness in Marginalized Communities [featuring Sheldon Gay]
Jan Coplan
Senior Director of Employer Relations and Career Connections at Landmark College
Landmark College
Episode: Episode 127 (Season 4): Landmark College: Neuro-Inclusive College to Career Transitions [featuring Jan Coplan]
Dr. Adam Lalor
Educational psychologist and vice president for Neurodiversity Research and Innovation at Landmark College
Landmark College
Episode: Episode 112 (Season 2): Rethinking Higher Education for Neurodivergent Learners [featuring Adam Lalor]
Yunetta Spring-Smith
Trauma trainer, EMDR certified trainer, and founder of Ground Breakers
Spring Forth Counseling, Ground Breakers
Episode: Episode 99: FLASHBACK — Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs (#4): Rewiring Beliefs to Face Your Inner Critic [featuring Yunetta Smith]
Dr. Debra Brause
Psy D with a focus on neurodiversity and childhood trauma
Episode: Episode 88: Psychoanalysis (Part 3): Impact of Childhood Trauma on Autistic Adults [featuring Debra Brause]
Dr. Kourosh Dini
Clinical psychiatrist, psychoanalyst, and musician focused on ADHD and creativity
Waves of Focus
Episode: Episode 87: Psychoanalysis (Part 2): ADHD Ways to Focus Without Force [featuring Kourosh Dini]
Dr. Karissa Burnett
Depth psychologist and trauma specialist known for bridging science with the soul
Divergent Pathways
Episode: Episode 86: Psychoanalysis (Part 1): Bridging Science With Soul [featuring Dr. Karissa Burnett]
Dr. Matt Zakreski
Clinical psychologist specializing in neurodivergent, gifted, twice-exceptional individuals
Neurodiversity Collective
Episode: Episode 81: Giftedness (Part 2): You’re a Zebra, Not a Weird Horse [featuring Dr. Matt Zakreski]

Hosts

Dr. Megan Neff
Co-host and neurodivergent therapist, sharing personal experiences and insights on neurodiversity and mental health.
Patrick Casale
Co-host and therapist who focuses on navigating neurodivergence, mental health, and personal stories.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 1.2k ratings
  • Best ND podcast

    This is the best podcast, such a resource and no bs, honest insight into the ND experience. Thank you for your work and willingness to be open on so many subjects that are not offer spoken of in other channels

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    268Ralph
    France3 months ago
  • words & insights to understand neurodivergence

    Marvelous!

    The two hosts, a well-spoken psychologist and an active therapist, relate personal struggles navigating a neurotypical world.

    I just started listing to ep. 138 (I’ve heard most previous as well) about relationship rupture and repair and wow! Such an honest expression of the vulnerability and shame we all experience as we navigate tumultuous waters of existence.

    This show uses actual experiences to describe and ~name~ the struggles we face. Naming & explaining them gives me lang... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hawks-Eye!
    United States3 months ago
  • Wonderful Resource

    I have obsessively listened to just about every single episode on my journey of self diagnosis & then professional diagnosis. I feel so seen & understood listening to this podcast knowing there are other’s who feel the way I do, explain it so well, & offer such helpful suggestions for how to navigate life.

    I look forward to new episodes every single Friday!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kmcooney22
    United States4 months ago
  • Feeling seen and understood

    This podcast is so helpful. Listening to the Hidden Shame of ADHD episode is helping me find peace within the shame I feel about my ADHD, especially when it comes to my relationship. Megan Anna's description of being the "waves" in her relationship and needing an anchor was so affirming. Thank you

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    EmeraldJM
    United States4 months ago
  • helpful podcast

    really good podcast. Particularly find Megan’s work helpful, including her website and books, even though their personal experiences often v different to mind eg. emotional processing. At risk of sounding old fashioned, its a little tiring that Patrick has to use the f-word so randomly and frequently, as it makes the podcast E rated when it wouldnt be otherwise. It seems a bit modern-random use of the word which has nothing to do with anger etc and just a habit…?

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tyne Tees
    United Kingdom5 months ago

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There is acknowledgment of the hosts' insightful clinical knowledge, making it a trusted resource for neurodivergent individuals and their allies.
Some listeners express a desire for more diverse perspectives within the content, suggesting an area for growth in the podcast.
Listeners appreciate the hosts' authentic and heartfelt conversations, finding them incredibly relatable and validating in their journey of understanding neurodivergence.
The personal stories shared by the hosts allow many to feel seen and understood, creating a strong connection with the content.

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Episode 128 (Season 4): Do Autistic People Want Social Connection?
Q: Autistic people don't want connection. True or false?
False. There are layers and nuances to the desire for social connection among Autistic people.
Episode 121 (Season 3): Burnout City: Burnout Symptoms at a Cellular Level [featuring Dr. Mel Houser]
Q: What will you do about the symptoms?
The guest discusses pacing, reducing sensory input, and learning what triggers symptoms.
Episode 112 (Season 2): Rethinking Higher Education for Neurodivergent Learners [featuring Adam Lalor]
Q: How does Landmark College support sensory needs in a collegiate education setting?
Dr. Lalor outlines that Landmark provides individualized access to sensory fidgets and creates an environment where students can adjust their sensory experiences without needing to request accommodations.
Episode 112 (Season 2): Rethinking Higher Education for Neurodivergent Learners [featuring Adam Lalor]
Q: What does it mean for Landmark to have a neurodiversity affirming education?
Dr. Lalor explains that it involves recognizing students as a cultural group, celebrating their identities, and creating an environment where they can thrive without feeling broken.
Episode 112 (Season 2): Rethinking Higher Education for Neurodivergent Learners [featuring Adam Lalor]
Q: Can you talk a little bit about your passion for advocating for neurodiversity?
Dr. Lalor shares that his passion comes from being neurodivergent himself and having family members who share similar experiences, driving his commitment to support neurodivergent individuals in education.

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What is Divergent Conversations about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Offering a unique perspective, this podcast showcases the personal experiences and clinical insights of two neurodivergent therapists as they navigate the complexities of living in a neurotypical world. The discussions revolve around a variety of topics fundamental to understanding neurodivergence, including Autism, ADHD, emotional well-being, and the impact of neurodivergent traits on daily life. Throughout episodes, the hosts provide a blend of serious reflection and light-hearted conversation, making complex subjects accessible and relatable while also amplifying the voices of other neurodivergent advocates. This podcast stands out for its authentic, affirming dialogue that invites listeners to explore the challenges and triumphs present... more

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1. Brittany Goff
2. Sheldon Gay
3. Jan Coplan
4. Dr. Adam Lalor
5. Yunetta Spring-Smith
6. Dr. Debra Brause
7. Dr. Kourosh Dini
8. Dr. Karissa Burnett

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