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Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny

The Australian National University
Australia
Labour Party
Australian Politics
Liberal Party
United States
Climate Change
Labor Party
Donald Trump
Peter Dutton
One Nation
Democracy
Economic Policy
Coalition
Keir Starmer
Myanmar
Political Pragmatism
China
Climate Finance
Tasmanian Election
Brexit

Mark Kenny takes a weekly look at politics and public affairs with expert analysis and discussion from researchers at The Australian National University and beyond.

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Latest Episodes

Why has social cohesion — a concept researchers still can't agree how to measure — become one of the most contested ideas in Australian politics? What separates the multiculturalism built by successive Australian governments from the harder, more exc... more

Is the collapse in trust of Australia's institutions, the retreat of unionism from everyday working life, and the alliances forged in Victoria's Covid lockdowns and reactivated by the 2023 Voice referendum responsible for the rise of the far right? I... more

Is social media now a more powerful force reshaping Australian democracy than any politician, party, or policy? Why has Pauline Hanson spent thirty years in the political wilderness only to emerge as the country's most potent electoral force in 2026?... more

Have Zali Steggall and Allegra Spender just become the party they always swore they weren't? Can a "free vote" constitution and no party room really survive contact with a Senate seat? Does the donation and spending caps from the last parliament leav... more

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Recent Guests

Ed Coper
Author of Angertainment
Author, Angertainment
Episode: Angertainment
Zali Steggall
Teal independent, elected representative, advocate for community-driven policy
Community Strong Australia (as a founder)
Episode: Two Teals, One Ticket
Allegra Spender
Teal independent, elected representative
Community Strong Australia (as a founder)
Episode: Two Teals, One Ticket
Pat Leslie
Political scientist from ANU's School of Politics and International Relations
Australian National University (ANU)
Episode: Broken Britain and the Burnham Moment
Rüçhan Kaya
Associate Professor of Political Science at the Austin College in Texas
Austin College
Episode: Contest for the populist vote
Graeme Smith
Associate Professor at ANU's Coral Bell School of Asia Pacific Affairs, host of the Little Red Podcast
Australian National University
Episode: China in the world
Dr. Jill Sheppard
Special guest from ANU
ANU
Episode: A Democracy Sausage for the Teacher
Jim Chalmers
Treasurer of Australia, former ANU alum
Australian Government (Treasurer)
Episode: Budget, Smudge-it: truth, details and the aspiration wars
Jill Sheppard
ANU Associate Professor
Australian National University
Episode: By-election tea leaves

Hosts

Mark Kenny
Host of the show; Director of the Australian Studies Institute at ANU; experienced political commentator.
Maria Taflaga
Co-host with a focus on political science insights from ANU; frequently partners with host on analysis.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 686 ratings
  • Zali Steggall and Allegra Spender

    Thank you for the interview with Zali Steggall and Allegra Spender - very pleased they are taking things forward with the new political party. More from them please.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BH LT
    Australia23 days ago
  • Maria dominates

    I really enjoy the show but Maria goes on this tangent that is too academic and quite frankly boring. I don’t want to be in an uni tutorial. She’s clearly in a Uni bubble.

    The people that can convey complex ideas into simple sentences are the clever ones.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    noonafreo
    Australiaa month ago
  • Enough is enough

    This would be a great podcast except Maria really takes over & that’s all you hear. You expect a conversation between 2 people on a subject, but she just goes on & on & on. She constantly raises her voice to interrupt the other person. It was a really good show at first but I’m getting heartily sick of hearing just her voice. Thank goodness for other informative podcasts

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Tanby7
    Australiaa month ago
  • I’d love to love this more but …

    Maria just dominates way too much, especially in the latest episode. Love Mark and your guests.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Boxerairhead60
    Australiaa month ago
  • Class systems

    Young Dr M talks about a class system in Australia and links it with UK.

    There she sits at the ANU teaching Australia’s young with her special lingo as a women earning top money- tell her she’s dreaming.

    In UK if you haven’t been to Eton and Oxford/Cambridge & your male forget it. Best to stay with what you know.

    I’m 73 ( you call me old & I hate that) I wish I’d had your opportunities as a female.

    By the way start analysing and explaining the tax changes needed instead of saying the government... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cusp73
    Australia2 months ago

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Some episodes get critiqued for hosts talking over guests; production quality varies.
A highly informative political podcast with strong guest lineups.
Hosts deliver depth with balanced, well-researched analysis.

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Contest for the populist vote
Q: Can you explain nativism for listeners who hear the terms nativism, populism, and nationalism?
Nativism is basically an anti-immigration narrative that aims to protect the culture by restricting entry or by demanding integration into a civic form of nationalism, while nationalism is a broader patriotism that can be inclusive but is often politically energized and exclusionary in practice.
Budget, Smudge-it: truth, details and the aspiration wars
Q: What is the core intent of the budget in terms of housing and tax reform?
The core intent is to make housing more affordable for first-time buyers, to cut taxes for workers, and to tax labor more fairly relative to asset income, aiming to fix long-standing distortions in housing and tax policy.
Litmus test for Sir Keir’s leadership
Q: What are the potential paths forward for Labour if Starmer were to step down or be replaced?
Possible successors are discussed, including Ed Miliband, Wes Streeting, and John Healey, but each faces hurdles; there is concern about the time needed to rebuild trust and the risk of triggering another election without a clear mandate.
Litmus test for Sir Keir’s leadership
Q: What exactly happened with the Mandelson appointment and why did it become a constitutional issue for the government?
Mandelson's appointment was announced before clearance was secured; civil service authorities argued due process required secure vetting, leading to a high-profile clash and public embarrassment when it emerged the vetting had not been completed.
Litmus test for Sir Keir’s leadership
Q: Walk us through how Keir Starmer has navigated the last couple of years and why there seems to be a leadership challenge forming.
The guests describe a combination of bad luck and mismanagement, where Starmer's focus on process without a compelling governing narrative, along with personnel turnover and the Mandelson controversy, has weakened political grip and opened room for internal dissent.

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What is Democracy Sausage about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A rigorous, analytically driven political podcast that blends expert academic insight with seasoned journalist reporting. Across episodes, listeners get deep dives into Australian federal politics, policy debates, polling trends, and international affairs, often anchored by long-form conversations with researchers from a leading national university. Notable strengths include thoughtful cross-examination of complex issues, strong guest lineups spanning academia, diplomacy, and policy analysis, and a calm, data-informed tone that aims to illuminate rather than sensationalize. A standout trait is the consistent use of academic perspectives to contextualize current events, making it particularly useful for listeners who want reasoned analysis a... more

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