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Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny

The Australian National University
Australia
Australian Politics
Labour Party
United States
Liberal Party
Climate Change
Labor Party
Donald Trump
One Nation
Peter Dutton
Democracy
Economic Policy
Coalition
Keir Starmer
China
Myanmar
Political Pragmatism
Anthony Albanese
Climate Finance
Tasmanian Election

Mark Kenny takes a weekly look at politics and public affairs with expert analysis and discussion from researchers at The Australian National University and beyond.

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Is too much political capital being put into meaningless foreign policy platitudes rather than defining what modern Australian security looks like? If Australia's shared values with its allies are contradicted can we still rely on those principles to... more

Is Australia's looming digital duty of care about censorship, as its critics claim, or about handing control back to the people whose attention is being sold to advertisers?

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Recent Guests

George Megalogenis
Author of Three Shocks, public intellectual discussed in this episode
Author, Three Shocks
Episode: Three Shocks
Alex Fein
Research and Intelligence Principal, RedBridge group
RedBridge
Episode: Hostile complexity
Anna Clark
Professor of Public History at University of Technology Sydney
University of Technology Sydney
Episode: Insiders and Outsiders
Charles Livingston
Associate Professor, head of the gambling and social determinants unit
Monash University
Episode: You win some, you lose more
Maria Taflaga
Dr. from the School of Politics and International Relations
Australian National University
Episode: Job (Un)Ready
Felix Hughes
President, National Union of Students
National Union of Students (NUS)
Episode: Job (Un)Ready
Charley Ellwood
President, National Union of Students at ANU
National Union of Students (NUS)
Episode: Job (Un)Ready
Karen Barlow
Chief Political Correspondent, Saturday Paper
Saturday Paper
Episode: Command, Control and Conformity
Marija Teflaga
Dr. from School of Politics and International Relations
Australian National University
Episode: Command, Control and Conformity

Hosts

Mark Kenny
Host of the show; Director of the Australian Studies Institute at ANU
Marija Teflaga
Co-host, analyst, and commentator; from the School of Politics and International Relations

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 702 ratings
  • Excellent content, especially if the guest is allowed time to talk

    I’ve been listening for a long time now. Very informative on Australian politics with excellent detail. The best shows are when the guest gets to talk… please!

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    super goes to the pond
    Australiaa month ago
  • Maria rants

    Maria Tafluga loves to rant and rave and dominate the microphone. Punishing.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Nardi Numbat
    Australiaa month ago
  • Job (un) ready

    What a surprise - it is all John Howard’s fault.

    Hey left wing hacks how about blaming Albo for your problems

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    RJGS1
    Australia2 months ago
  • Love the show

    Big fan of Marks dryness, but a massive fan of Maria, been tempted to look online for her classes as I enjoy her takes and the way she educates.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kevin hart sucks
    Australia2 months ago
  • Zali Steggall and Allegra Spender

    Thank you for the interview with Zali Steggall and Allegra Spender - very pleased they are taking things forward with the new political party. More from them please.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BH LT
    Australia3 months ago

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The show is respected for its thoughtful, data-informed discussion.
Interviews often deliver in-depth, policy-focused insights with strong hosts.
Guests are high-caliber and cover a broad spectrum of Australian politics.
Listeners sometimes critique on-air dynamics and audio quality, not the content itself.
Fans praise accessible, well-researched episodes with diverse viewpoints.

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Hostile complexity
Q: How did Adam Bandt fit into this analysis, and what might his trajectory tell us about Greens versus Hanson-style messaging?
Adam Bandt was not a major presence in the focus groups and did not register as a prominent figure; the analysis suggests Bandt's approach didn't translate into the same broad, visceral resonance as Hanson's messaging, which blends authenticity and simple, direct communication. The Greens' technocratic image contrasts with the emotive, personal storytelling that seems to engage voters.
Hostile complexity
Q: What are you making of this whole immigration discussion in terms of its impact on the understanding of One Nation?
Overall, the immigration debate isn't currently reshaping Pauline Hanson's support in the short term; the information ecosystem is highly siloed, and a lot of the audience relies on insiders and a narrow segment of the population. Focus groups show limited cross-over effects, with some individuals conflating crime concerns with migration, but the broader impact remains marginal for now.
The Cohesion Question
Q: What should governments do to counter these trends in the short and long term?
Governments should be proactive in communication, protect civil rights while countering violent extremism, and invest in long-term measures such as education, social integration, and control over information spaces to reduce susceptibility to manipulative messaging.
The Cohesion Question
Q: What does all this mean analytically for you as a scholar studying social cohesion?
Social cohesion is a dynamic balance between bonding within groups and bridging between diverse groups; when cohesion weakens, fragmentation and polarization can rise, potentially fueling extremism unless there are deliberate efforts to strengthen cross-group trust and civic participation.
Contest for the populist vote
Q: Can you explain nativism for listeners who hear the terms nativism, populism, and nationalism?
Nativism is basically an anti-immigration narrative that aims to protect the culture by restricting entry or by demanding integration into a civic form of nationalism, while nationalism is a broader patriotism that can be inclusive but is often politically energized and exclusionary in practice.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Democracy Sausage

What is Democracy Sausage about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on Australian politics, policy, and public affairs with expert analysis from researchers and practitioners. Key threads include higher education funding and policy (notably student access and affordability), the rise of independent or Teal-aligned political movements, and the dynamics of major parties and populist forces. Episodes often pair academic perspectives with journalism and practical commentary, covering budget debates, constitutional reform, national elections, and cross-border comparisons. A distinctive pattern is the blend of rigorous, data-driven analysis with accessible discussion, plus a consistent focus on how policy choices affect everyday Australians. A strong throughline across episodes is exploring gove... more

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