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The Persuasion Occasion

Perkins Coie LLP
Negotiation
Conflict Resolution
Hostage Negotiation
Active Listening
Persuasion
Crisis Management
Emotional Intelligence
Mediation
Crisis Negotiation
Psychology
Human Behavior
Trauma
Resilience
Ego In Negotiation
Litigation
Tequila
FBI
Undercover Operations
PTSD
Coping Mechanisms

Welcome to the Persuasion Occasion. Hosted by Perkins Coie Consumer Products and Services litigators David Biderman and Jasmine Wetherell, each episode features a conversation with noted professionals about achieving success in disputes and negotiations. The discussions are not limited to the legal realm, as success demands incorporating teachings from a breadth of perspectives. David, a baby boom... more

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Negotiation expert and keynote speaker Tony Perzow joins us to examine why most persuasion relies on fear, and how shifting to what he calls “magnetism” changes everything. Drawing from decades, training teams at Apple, Red Bull, and Rolls-Royce, Ton... more

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Tim Reuben
Trial lawyer and mediator with over 40 years of experience
LA Superior Court's Mediation Panel
Episode: Persuasion, Mediation, and the Story Behind Tim Reuben’s Book Tequila
Tony Perzow
Negotiation expert who has trained teams at various leading companies.
Episode: How To Negotiate, Persuade and Communicate Without Pressure ft. Tony Perzow
John Lowry
Lawyer, business consultant, and entrepreneur
Lowry Group
Episode: Negotiation Is a Human Process: Strategies from John Lowry
Dr. George Bonanno
Professor of Psychology at Teachers College, Columbia University and author of 'The End of Trauma'
Teachers College, Columbia University
Episode: The End of Trauma: What Resilience Really Looks Like with Dr. George Bonanno
Melissa Fortunato
Retired FBI agent specializing in crisis negotiations and undercover operations
Negotiations Collective
Episode: The Psychology of Persuasion: Lessons from FBI Negotiator Melissa Fortunato
Scott Tillema
Co-founder and senior associate at The Negotiations Collective, an expert in hostage negotiations.
The Negotiations Collective
Episode: The Power of Connection: Hostage Negotiation Lessons for Everyday Influence With Scott Tillema

Hosts

David Biderman
Lawyer and co-host of the show; specializes in consumer products and services litigation and broad dispute resolution.
Jasmine Wetherell
Lawyer and co-host, focusing on dispute resolution and negotiation tactics.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 16 ratings
  • Awesome hosts and guests, Iearn a lot every time

    The hosts and guests are both terrific. Interesting conversations and I learn so much every time.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Wing H. Liang
    United States3 years ago

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Conversations are engaging and informative, with practical takeaways.
Hosts and guests are terrific and provide actionable insights.
Great storytelling around legal and negotiation topics; highly actionable for professionals.
High-quality guests and thoughtful discussions on negotiation and persuasion.

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Negotiation Is a Human Process: Strategies from John Lowry
Q: What is the right mindset to start a negotiation?
Understanding negotiation as a strategic communication process to resolve problems leads to better outcomes.
How To Negotiate, Persuade and Communicate Without Pressure ft. Tony Perzow
Q: If listeners remember only one principle from you today, what should it be?
Start recognizing fear in your own life and dare to live today from a place of love.
How To Negotiate, Persuade and Communicate Without Pressure ft. Tony Perzow
Q: What happens if your adversaries say in a negotiation are really trying to win the biggest piece of the pie?
It's important to defend your position from a place of love and respect rather than fear, and recognize the intentions behind your actions.
The End of Trauma: What Resilience Really Looks Like with Dr. George Bonanno
Q: Do you think there are patterns that might make someone more likely to be resilient?
Flexibility and choosing the right behavior for the right situation play a significant role in resilience.
The End of Trauma: What Resilience Really Looks Like with Dr. George Bonanno
Q: Can you describe resilience and how it relates to some of the things that we all experience in life?
Resilience is the ability to function in a normal healthy way after exposure to an aversive event.

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