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Climbing Mount CMMC

Bobby Guerra
CMMC
Cybersecurity
Managed Service Providers
NIST 800-171
Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification
CMMC Level 2 Certification
C3PAO
Compliance
Department Of Defense
CMMC Level 2
CUI
Msps
Controlled Unclassified Information
Customer Responsibility Matrix
MSP
Self-Assessment
CMMC Compliance
Change Management
Plan Of Action and Milestones
NIST 800-171 Rev 3

Our podcast is dedicated to supporting MSPs/MSSPs and the companies that engage with them. We aim to maintain transparency throughout our journey, especially as we pursue our level two certification. While only a few MSPs are actively participating, we hope this podcast will inspire more involvement.We have many guests from different branches of the CMMC ecosystem who are professional in their fie... more

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In this episode of Climbing Mount CMMC, Bobby and Kaleigh discuss the critical aspects of maintaining CMMC compliance after you pass your assessment. They cover maintenance activities, evidence gathering, and scaling strategies for MSPs and organizat... more

In this episode of Climbing Mount CMMC, Kaleigh and Bobby discuss the complexities of CMMC readiness and the importance of proper preparation for assessments. They share insights from their experiences as an MSP navigating the evolving cybersecurity ... more

In this special episode of Climbing Mount CMMC, Bobby and Kaleigh discuss the intricacies of the CMMC ecosystem with Matt Travis, CEO of the Cyber AB. They explore the challenges, opportunities, and future strategies for MSPs, assessors, and small bu... more

In this episode of Climbing Mount CMMC, Bobby and Kaleigh provide an in-depth look at the CCP and CCA certifications, including preparation strategies, course insights, and industry perspectives. They discuss topics that target those aiming to unders... more

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Recent Guests

Matt Travis
CEO of Cyber AB
Cyber AB
Episode: What Every MSP Needs to Know About CMMC (feat. Matt Travis, CEO of Cyber AB)
Lawrence Cruciana
Lead CCA, President and founder of CorpInfoTech
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Episode: What is "The Game of Chicken" in CMMC? (feat. Lawrence Cruciana)
Fernando Machado
Managing Principal and Lead CMMC Certified Assessor at CyberSec Investments
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Episode: Working with a C3PAO (feat. Fernando Machado)
Adam Evans
Contributing expert on NIST 800-171 compliance changes
Episode: Breaking Down NIST 800-171 Rev 3 Implementation
Kelly Hood
Expert in CMMC compliance and consultant at Optic Cyber Solutions
Optic Cyber Solutions
Episode: Where to Begin on Your CMMC Compliance Journey
Logan Therrien
Chief Strategy Officer at CURI Solutions and retired Naval Officer
CURI Solutions
Episode: An Assessor's Guide to CMMC Compliance
Dy Edington
Director of Information Security at AV, formerly BlueHalo
AV
Episode: CMMC Implementation from a Contractor's Perspective
Tom Conkle
CEO and cybersecurity engineer at Optic Cyber Solutions
Optic Cyber Solutions
Episode: How to Build Your CMMC Documents the RIGHT Way
Jil Wright
President of Wrightbrained Security and experienced CMMC consultant.
Wrightbrained Security
Episode: Understanding CMMC Audits with a Lead Assessor

Hosts

Kaleigh Floyd
Host of the show with a focus on MSPs/Axiom MSP ecosystem; frequently collaborates on CMMC topics.
Bobby Guerra
Co-host with deep MSP/CMMC implementation experience; often discusses scoping, tooling, and program management.
Adam Evans
Co-host contributing practical perspectives on MSP operations and CMMC readiness.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 8 ratings
  • Super engaging and incredible insight into the world of CMMC for MSPs!

    Shoutout to Judy for the recommendation!

    -Kristina Collins

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kristina42
    United Statesa year ago

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Praise for practical guidance on scoping, evidence packages, and POAM management.
Listener feedback highlights the show as highly actionable for MSPs pursuing CMMC readiness.
Listeners recognize the MSP-centric lens, useful for practitioners and leadership teams.
Guests are seen as knowledgeable and the discussions feel grounded in real-world operations.

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What Every MSP Needs to Know About CMMC (feat. Matt Travis, CEO of Cyber AB)
Q: How does the Cyber AB plan to scale the ecosystem to meet Level 2 demand, and what indicators are you watching most closely?
Matt outlines the three-year implementation plan, monitoring C3POs, CCAs, and MSP capacity; the potential for waivers, and the emphasis on balancing security with practical adoption by ensuring enough qualified assessors and training providers while avoiding bottlenecks.
What Every MSP Needs to Know About CMMC (feat. Matt Travis, CEO of Cyber AB)
Q: What are the main challenges the Cyber AB faced in its early years and how are you addressing them today?
He discusses early confusion about the AB's role, the pause for strategic review, funding pressures, and the shift to ISO-based accreditation with the creation of the Cyber EF to assist MSPs and ensure consistent training and marketplace mechanisms, while maintaining impartiality.
What Every MSP Needs to Know About CMMC (feat. Matt Travis, CEO of Cyber AB)
Q: Can you maybe very quickly talk about perhaps the inception of the Cyber AB and the difference and then where you guys are in the space, just to level set for people because not everybody may not really know that?
Matt explains that Cyber AB is a non-profit independent organization formed to run the CMMC accreditation program, emphasize its three pillars (competency, consistency, impartiality), and clarify it is not part of the Department of Defense. He describes its budget model, lack of government funding, and its evolution through rulemaking and ecosystem growth.
How to Use ODVs Internally
Q: Where do you see people kind of tend to go off the rails when they're talking about organizational defined values?
People often underestimate the importance of tools and overestimate their scalability, leading to unrealistic expectations for service delivery.
How to Build Your CMMC Documents the RIGHT Way
Q: Can you describe the difference between the explanation required in an SSP versus in a CRM?
The SSP serves as a management tool, while the CRM focuses on how responsibilities are shared and implemented between the provider and the client.

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What is Climbing Mount CMMC about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A practitioner-focused show for MSPs and MSSPs navigating cybersecurity certification, compliance, and VAs like CMMC, NIST 800-171, and the certification process. Episodes emphasize practical readiness, scoping, evidence packaging, and coordinating with external assessors, MSPs, and CSPs. Guests range from practitioners to leaders in the CMMC ecosystem, with real-world war stories about budgets, tooling, and process design. The program tends to spotlight scalable security programs, governance, and remediation workflows, often with actionable takeaways for firms aiming to achieve or maintain Level 2 readiness. A notable strength is the hands-on, playbook-like approach tailored for service providers, not just high-level theory, making it like... more

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