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If you’re leading change in organizations, this will be your favourite podcast. Change is harder than ever. Transformation is more complex, unpredictable and overwhelming than it’s ever been. Change Signal cuts through the noise to find the good stuff that works. Michael Bungay Stanier, author of The Coaching Habit and organizational transformation student for thirty years, talks to the best think... more

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Here are three questions that arise from this Change Signal conversation with Tiziana Casciaro:

Where does power really sit in your system?

Why don’t people use your “open door”?

When is resistance a skill gap — and when is it a coa... more

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Here are three tensions that emerge from this Change Signal conversation with Daniel Stillman:

Who actually owns the change?

What conversations are you avoiding?

Are you inviting people — or forcing them?

If you lead change in a la... more

Here are three provocative questions at the centre of this Change Signal conversation with Siobhán McHale:

Are you trying to change a machine, a network, or an ecosystem?

What patterns are quietly running your culture?

How do you in... more

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Here are three questions that arise from this Change Signal conversation with Ron Carucci:

Are we still managing change as if it’s predictable?

What unseen stories are really shaping how our organizations behave?

And where might lea... more

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Siobhán McHale
Author and culture change expert
The Hive Mind / Culture Change consultant
Episode: Map Your Culture’s Hidden System: Siobhán McHale
Ron Carucci
Author and founder of Nevolent, a consultant focused on organizational transformation
Nelevent (Nevolent)
Episode: How Your Origin Story Runs Your Change Program: Ron Carucci
Caroline Kealey
Executive facilitator and trainer focused on change and leadership and communications
Results Map
Episode: Just How Dead is Change Management? Caroline Kealey
Jeremy Bentham
Contemporary strategist and leading figure in scenario planning
Shell (former head of scenario planning)
Episode: The OG of Scenario Planning Jeremy Bentham
Jacqueline Kappers
Experienced change practitioner
Blu Morpho Group
Episode: Kübler-Ross was Wrong! Jacqueline Kappers
Andrew Kilshaw
AI optimist and former change leader at Nike, Sanofi, BlackRock and Shell
Talent Optima
Episode: AI Won’t Fix Your Change Problem. Andrew Kilshaw
Jessica Neal
Former Netflix Chief Talent Officer, investor
Netflix (former)
Episode: Let’s Netflix and Change: Jessica Neal
Donald Miller
Author of Build a StoryBrand
StoryBrand
Episode: Stop Writing Boring Change Messaging: Donald Miller
Leyla Acaroglu
System thinker, designer, champion for sustainability
Leyla Acaroglu Studio
Episode: Where Should You Intervene? Dr. Leyla Acaroglu

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Michael Bungay Stanier
Host of Change Signal

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 114 ratings
  • The only constant is change ... thank goodness for MBS Change Signal

    I have been a fan of Michael Bungay Stanier's (MBS) work for many years. Having been involved with and subjected to change initiatives I was delighted when he rolled out the "Change Signal" podcast. I start my days quite early, go for 10,000 walks and listen when I walk. This morning (4/17/26) I listen to the two most recent that looked at the Kubler-Ross "change" model and AI. Great sessions that I will be sharing with friends and colleagues. I also appreciate that MBS keeps the podcast focuse... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    EJN4
    United States2 months ago
  • Cutting Through the Noise on Change

    Change Signal is a refreshing, no-BS take on what actually works in organizational change. Michael brings thoughtful, grounded conversations that go beyond theory and into real-world application. I appreciate how each episode leaves you with clearer thinking and practical insights you can immediately use, especially in a space that often feels overwhelming and overcomplicated.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Steph Kwong
    United States3 months ago
  • Single best resource on leading change

    I have been leading change projects in K12 schools for nearly three decades. I’ve spent the last 15 years in particular obsessing over how change happens in schools. This podcast is—BY FAR—the single best resource I have found.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cmtregis
    United States4 months ago
  • Succinct and Spot On

    This is my favourite leadership podcast, and not just for leading change. It offers a goldmine of strategies for leading people. Each episode is punchy, gets to the heart of things without waffle and there is always a way I can follow up if I want to dive deeper. Change Signal informs much of my professional reading and is a great companion to Michael’s newsletter.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CNocka
    Australia4 months ago
  • Noteworthy Insights on Leading Organizational Change

    I listen to a lot of podcasts, usually while multitasking.

    Change Signal is different.

    This is one of the very few podcasts where I routinely pause to take notes.

    Michael Bungay Stanier and his guests share practical, experience-based ways to think about and lead organizational change. They confront difficult realities, including how the sheer volume of change can make change harder. The conversations respect the complexity of organizational systems and the real impact change has on the assoc... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SethW_
    United States6 months ago

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The host fosters curious, human-centered conversations that cut through the noise.
Guests bring real-world experience and actionable insights, not theory.
Change Signal delivers practical, no-nonsense guidance for leading change.

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How Your Origin Story Runs Your Change Program: Ron Carucci
Q: How do origin stories influence organizational culture and decision making?
Origin stories shape risk tolerance, performance standards, and how leaders respond to feedback, which in turn affects whether the organization embraces change or resists it.
How Your Origin Story Runs Your Change Program: Ron Carucci
Q: What is your current understanding of change and transformation compared to five years ago?
Change is no longer a linear path; leaders must develop readiness and address deep-seated origin stories that drive behavior, not just manage projects.
Let’s Netflix and Change: Jessica Neal
Q: What guidance would you give someone starting to experiment with change in their organization?
Start small with a tiny, controlled experiment, evaluate the outcome, and scale what works while ensuring there is a clear framework for feedback and decision ownership.
Where Should You Intervene? Dr. Leyla Acaroglu
Q: How do you start mapping a system in an organization?
Begin with an analog chaos map on a large surface, encourage everyone to dump concepts freely without editing, then gradually add connections and use color-coding to indicate different dynamics like power, social interactions, and finances.
Where Should You Intervene? Dr. Leyla Acaroglu
Q: Why is systems thinking so hard for people to adopt in their organizations?
Because education and practice often train people to see problems in silos and to seek linear cause-and-effect solutions, while real-world systems are interconnected and constantly evolving, requiring flexible thinking and collaborative mapping.

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A sharp, practitioner-focused show about leading organizational change in a rapidly evolving world. Across episodes, guests explore emergent, human-centered approaches to transformation, from systems thinking and belonging to storytelling, governance, and the role of AI in change leadership. The conversations mix theory with practical frameworks, enabling leaders to act with clarity in VUCA environments, design effective interventions, and cultivate agency within teams. A standout trait is the emphasis on concrete behaviors, experiments, and small, scalable moves that compound over time, often grounded in real-world examples from large companies and public services alike.

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1. Siobhán McHale
2. Ron Carucci
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5. Jacqueline Kappers
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8. Donald Miller

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