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If you’re leading change in organizations, this will be your favourite podcast. Change is harder than ever. Transformation is more complex, unpredictable and overwhelming than it’s ever been. Change Signal cuts through the noise to find the good stuff that works. Michael Bungay Stanier, author of The Coaching Habit and organizational transformation student for thirty years, talks to the best think... more

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Here are three questions that sit underneath this Change Signal conversation with Jeremy Bentham:

What future are you not exploring?

Where is your strategy getting lazy?

Are you helping people learn — or making them resist?

If you ... more

Here are three questions sparked by this Change Signal conversation with Jacqueline Kappers:

What loss are you ignoring in your latest transformation?

Where might you be grief-shaming your people?

 What would change look like if you... more

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As I reflect on this conversation with Andrew Kilshaw, three questions stand out:

Who are you really trying to move?

What recipe are you missing?

Is AI saving you — or just augmenting you?

Andrew Kilshaw has led transformation insi... more

Here are three provocative questions that arise from this Change Signal conversation with Jessica Neal:

Are you modeling the change you’re asking for?

What nostalgia is quietly slowing your organization down?

And are you chasing con... more

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Recent Guests

Jacqueline Kappers
Experienced change practitioner
Blu Morpho Group
Episode: Kübler-Ross was Wrong! Jacqueline Kappers
Andrew Kilshaw
AI optimist and former change leader at Nike, Sanofi, BlackRock and Shell
Talent Optima
Episode: AI Won’t Fix Your Change Problem. Andrew Kilshaw
Jessica Neal
Former Netflix Chief Talent Officer, investor
Netflix (former)
Episode: Let’s Netflix and Change: Jessica Neal
Donald Miller
Author of Build a StoryBrand
StoryBrand
Episode: Stop Writing Boring Change Messaging: Donald Miller
Leyla Acaroglu
System thinker, designer, champion for sustainability
Leyla Acaroglu Studio
Episode: Where Should You Intervene? Dr. Leyla Acaroglu
Rita McGrath
Professor and renowned thinker on strategy and innovation
Columbia Business School
Episode: Be A “Discovery-Driven” Change Leader: Rita McGrath
Kristen Berman
CEO and co-founder of Irrational Labs
Irrational Labs
Episode: The Environment Is Running the Show: Kristen Berman
Helen Bevan
A force for change within the NHS and the healthcare systems of the UK.
Episode: What Really Moves/Changes a System? Helen Bevan
Neil Hoyne
Chief Strategist at Google, expert on data and digital transformation
Google
Episode: How to Be Unafraid of Data: Neil Hoyne

Host

Michael Bungay Stanier
Host and expert in leadership and change management, with a focus on practical strategies for organizational transformation.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 109 ratings
  • Cutting Through the Noise on Change

    Change Signal is a refreshing, no-BS take on what actually works in organizational change. Michael brings thoughtful, grounded conversations that go beyond theory and into real-world application. I appreciate how each episode leaves you with clearer thinking and practical insights you can immediately use, especially in a space that often feels overwhelming and overcomplicated.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Steph Kwong
    United Statesa month ago
  • Single best resource on leading change

    I have been leading change projects in K12 schools for nearly three decades. I’ve spent the last 15 years in particular obsessing over how change happens in schools. This podcast is—BY FAR—the single best resource I have found.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cmtregis
    United States2 months ago
  • Succinct and Spot On

    This is my favourite leadership podcast, and not just for leading change. It offers a goldmine of strategies for leading people. Each episode is punchy, gets to the heart of things without waffle and there is always a way I can follow up if I want to dive deeper. Change Signal informs much of my professional reading and is a great companion to Michael’s newsletter.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CNocka
    Australia3 months ago
  • Noteworthy Insights on Leading Organizational Change

    I listen to a lot of podcasts, usually while multitasking.

    Change Signal is different.

    This is one of the very few podcasts where I routinely pause to take notes.

    Michael Bungay Stanier and his guests share practical, experience-based ways to think about and lead organizational change. They confront difficult realities, including how the sheer volume of change can make change harder. The conversations respect the complexity of organizational systems and the real impact change has on the assoc... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SethW_
    United States4 months ago
  • Change wisdom!

    Great interviews with key points pulled out for easy consumption and maximum value. Well produced. Also sign up for the newsletter. Perfect for change leaders.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    koneto12
    United States5 months ago

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The podcast is favored among those seeking to enhance their leadership abilities and tackle organizational challenges in innovative ways. Some have remarked on the need for a deeper exploration of certain topics, suggesting that while the content is valuable, there could be room for more in-depth discussions. Overall, audience feedback indicates a strong alignment with their professional growth and development needs.
Listeners appreciate the actionable insights and practical strategies shared in episodes, often emphasizing the content's direct relevance to their work. Many note the podcast's ability to simplify complex topics, making it easier to grasp the essentials of change management. The host's engaging style and the quality of guests are frequently highlighted, contributing to a positive reception. Some listeners express that the discussions challenge traditional notions of leadership and organizational change, promoting a more human-centric approach.

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Let’s Netflix and Change: Jessica Neal
Q: What guidance would you give someone starting to experiment with change in their organization?
Start small with a tiny, controlled experiment, evaluate the outcome, and scale what works while ensuring there is a clear framework for feedback and decision ownership.
Where Should You Intervene? Dr. Leyla Acaroglu
Q: How do you start mapping a system in an organization?
Begin with an analog chaos map on a large surface, encourage everyone to dump concepts freely without editing, then gradually add connections and use color-coding to indicate different dynamics like power, social interactions, and finances.
Where Should You Intervene? Dr. Leyla Acaroglu
Q: Why is systems thinking so hard for people to adopt in their organizations?
Because education and practice often train people to see problems in silos and to seek linear cause-and-effect solutions, while real-world systems are interconnected and constantly evolving, requiring flexible thinking and collaborative mapping.
What Really Moves/Changes a System? Helen Bevan
Q: How do you invite agency within your organization?
Support individuals in building their own agency through small changes and by providing an environment that fosters collective agency.
What Really Moves/Changes a System? Helen Bevan
Q: What does this welcoming and this belonging give the team beyond warm fuzzy feelings in the moment?
Creating relational conditions for change enhances the team's ability to connect and perform effectively.

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What is Change Signal about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A platform for those leading change in organizations, the content focuses on practical insights and strategies that tackle the complexities of transformation. The host engages with top thinkers and senior leaders to uncover what methods are effective, what pitfalls to avoid, and innovative approaches to implement. Themes such as data-informed decision-making, the human factors in systems thinking, and the significance of trust in change processes are regularly examined, making it a valuable resource for change management professionals seeking to navigate the evolving landscape of organizational transformation. This podcast also stands out for its emphasis on actionable content and dialogue that respects the messy realities of change, inviti... more

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4. Donald Miller
5. Leyla Acaroglu
6. Rita McGrath
7. Kristen Berman
8. Helen Bevan

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