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Change Signal: Modern Change Management that Works

Michael Bungay Stanier | Modern Change Management Practitioner
Change Management
Organizational Change
Leadership
Organizational Culture
Systems Thinking
Employee Engagement
Trust
Behavior Change
Resistance To Change
Organizational Transformation
Innovation
Decision Making
Transformational Change
Transformational Leadership
Behavioral Science
Change Leadership
Project Management
Subtraction In Change Management
Jugaad Innovation
Transformation

Change management is harder than ever. Organizations face more complexity, more uncertainty, and more pressure to deliver successful change than at any point in recent memory. Most leaders respond by pushing harder. Others search for the latest model, framework, or methodology and hope the tool will solve the problem. Neither guarantees change adoption. Successful change happens when people are re... more

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Three questions sit at the heart of this conversation:

• Are you starting with the technology, or the purpose?• What harm are you creating by moving too fast — or too slowly?• Have you designed the change people actually experience?

Kate O’Neill is... more

Three questions sit at the heart of this conversation:

Are you asking people to make real choices, or just comply?

What past are you accidentally disrespecting?

Is your change work actually part of the work?

Roger Martin is one of ... more

This Change Signal conversation with BJ Fogg raises three interesting questions:

Are you designing change, or just hoping for it?

Where’s the overlap that actually works?

What is your environment quietly shaping?

Behaviour ch

Chan... more

Here are three questions that arise from this Change Signal conversation with Tiziana Casciaro:

Where does power really sit in your system?

Why don’t people use your “open door”?

When is resistance a skill gap — and when is it a coa... more

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Tiziana Casciaro
Professor and co-author of Power for All
Rotman School of Management, University of Toronto
Episode: Power Mapping for Change Practitioners & Leaders | Tiziana Casciaro | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Daniel Stillman
Author of Good Talk, How to Design Conversations That Matter
Author, Speaker
Episode: Conversations: The Atomic Unit of Change | Daniel Stillman | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Siobhán McHale
Author and culture change expert
The Hive Mind / Culture Change consultant
Episode: Map Your Culture’s Hidden System | Siobhán McHale | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Ron Carucci
Author and founder of Nevolent, a consultant focused on organizational transformation
Nelevent (Nevolent)
Episode: How Your Origin Story Runs Your Change Program: Ron Carucci
Caroline Kealey
Executive facilitator and trainer focused on change and leadership and communications
Results Map
Episode: Just How Dead is Change Management? | Caroline Kealey | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Jeremy Bentham
Contemporary strategist and leading figure in scenario planning
Shell (former head of scenario planning)
Episode: The OG of Scenario Planning for Change Management | Jeremy Bentham | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Jacqueline Kappers
Experienced change practitioner
Blu Morpho Group
Episode: Kübler-Ross was Wrong About Change! | Jacqueline Kappers | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Andrew Kilshaw
AI optimist and former change leader at Nike, Sanofi, BlackRock and Shell
Talent Optima
Episode: AI Won’t Fix Your Change Problem. (Sorry.) | Andrew Kilshaw | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Jessica Neal
Former Netflix Chief Talent Officer, investor
Netflix (former)
Episode: Let’s Netflix and Change | Jessica Neal | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

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Michael Bungay Stanier
Host of Change Signal

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 114 ratings
  • Always great insights

    This podcast keeps on suprising me with new insights. It is a very intelligent podcast with good questions and experts who have a lot of experience and not only knowledge from research or repeating what others say

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    lizy speedy
    Netherlands14 days ago
  • The only constant is change ... thank goodness for MBS Change Signal

    I have been a fan of Michael Bungay Stanier's (MBS) work for many years. Having been involved with and subjected to change initiatives I was delighted when he rolled out the "Change Signal" podcast. I start my days quite early, go for 10,000 walks and listen when I walk. This morning (4/17/26) I listen to the two most recent that looked at the Kubler-Ross "change" model and AI. Great sessions that I will be sharing with friends and colleagues. I also appreciate that MBS keeps the podcast focuse... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    EJN4
    United States2 months ago
  • Cutting Through the Noise on Change

    Change Signal is a refreshing, no-BS take on what actually works in organizational change. Michael brings thoughtful, grounded conversations that go beyond theory and into real-world application. I appreciate how each episode leaves you with clearer thinking and practical insights you can immediately use, especially in a space that often feels overwhelming and overcomplicated.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Steph Kwong
    United States3 months ago
  • Single best resource on leading change

    I have been leading change projects in K12 schools for nearly three decades. I’ve spent the last 15 years in particular obsessing over how change happens in schools. This podcast is—BY FAR—the single best resource I have found.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cmtregis
    United States4 months ago
  • Succinct and Spot On

    This is my favourite leadership podcast, and not just for leading change. It offers a goldmine of strategies for leading people. Each episode is punchy, gets to the heart of things without waffle and there is always a way I can follow up if I want to dive deeper. Change Signal informs much of my professional reading and is a great companion to Michael’s newsletter.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CNocka
    Australia5 months ago

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The host fosters curious, human-centered conversations that cut through the noise.
Guests bring real-world experience and actionable insights, not theory.
Change Signal delivers practical, no-nonsense guidance for leading change.

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Conversations: The Atomic Unit of Change | Daniel Stillman | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Q: What do you mean when you say conversation?
Conversations vary in size and complexity; they are the material through which change happens, and leaders must handle everything from self-dialogue to group discussions to co-creative many-to-many sessions.
How Your Origin Story Runs Your Change Program: Ron Carucci
Q: How do origin stories influence organizational culture and decision making?
Origin stories shape risk tolerance, performance standards, and how leaders respond to feedback, which in turn affects whether the organization embraces change or resists it.
How Your Origin Story Runs Your Change Program: Ron Carucci
Q: What is your current understanding of change and transformation compared to five years ago?
Change is no longer a linear path; leaders must develop readiness and address deep-seated origin stories that drive behavior, not just manage projects.
Let’s Netflix and Change | Jessica Neal | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Q: What guidance would you give someone starting to experiment with change in their organization?
Start small with a tiny, controlled experiment, evaluate the outcome, and scale what works while ensuring there is a clear framework for feedback and decision ownership.
Where Should You Intervene for Change Impact? | Dr. Leyla Acaroglu | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Q: How do you start mapping a system in an organization?
Begin with an analog chaos map on a large surface, encourage everyone to dump concepts freely without editing, then gradually add connections and use color-coding to indicate different dynamics like power, social interactions, and finances.

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A sharp, practitioner-focused show about leading organizational change in a rapidly evolving world. Across episodes, guests explore emergent, human-centered approaches to transformation, from systems thinking and belonging to storytelling, governance, and the role of AI in change leadership. The conversations mix theory with practical frameworks, enabling leaders to act with clarity in VUCA environments, design effective interventions, and cultivate agency within teams. A standout trait is the emphasis on concrete behaviors, experiments, and small, scalable moves that compound over time, often grounded in real-world examples from large companies and public services alike.

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