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Carrier 2.0 goes beyond the headlines to uncover the future of telecom. Hosted by Fierce Network’s Steve Saunders, the show brings you inside the minds of the executives rewriting the rules of connectivity. Each episode delivers unfiltered conversations with industry leaders as they confront today’s biggest challenges, share hard-won lessons, and offer bold predictions about what comes next. From ... more

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As agentic AI moves from experimentation to deployment, the conversation is shifting beyond intelligence to something even more fundamental: governance.

In this episode of Carrier 2.0, Steve Saunders explores what happens when millions of autonomous... more

As AI becomes embedded into critical infrastructure, the debate around sovereignty is rapidly moving from policy discussion to business necessity.

In this episode of Carrier 2.0, Steve Saunders explores one of the defining questions facing telecom o... more

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Carrier 2.0 returns for Season 2 with a defining question for the telecom industry: what kind of service provider survives the next decade?

Hosted by Steve Saunders, this opening episode explores the strategic crossroads facing carriers as AI, cloud... more

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In this episode of Carrier 2.0, host Steve Saunders argues that the real competitive advantage in the AI era isn’t hype, scale, or autonomy, it’s execution.

As hyperscalers dominate headlines, carriers face a more grounded challenge... more

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In this episode of Carrier 2.0, host Steve Saunders reframes artificial intelligence not as a product or application, but as a full-stack systems problem spanning power, cooling, water, networking, operations, security, governance, a... more

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In this episode of Carrier 2.0, host Steve Saunders looks at how carriers are moving beyond AI hype and into execution. Drawing on new research from Fierce Network and interviews with operators and technology leaders, the episode exp... more

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In this episode of Carrier 2.0, host Steve Saunders examines how AI is reshaping security for carriers and widening the threat surface. Cisco’s Tom Gillis and Martin Lund explain why nation-states are increasingly targeting network i... more

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In this episode of Carrier 2.0, host Steve Saunders explores what it really takes to build an AI driven network. In a rapid expert montage, Cisco’s Guru Shenoy, Rana El Desouky Kazamel and Masum Mir explain how AI agents will reshape... more

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Recent Guests

Jason Thune
Executive at Hawaiian Telcom, discussing regional deployment and permitting challenges
Hawaiian Telcom
Episode: Networks Under Siege – AI Security, Infrastructure Threats, and the Battle to Protect Carrier Networks
Tom Gillis
Executive at Cisco, discussing AI security philosophy and hardware-software integration
Cisco
Episode: Networks Under Siege – AI Security, Infrastructure Threats, and the Battle to Protect Carrier Networks
Martin Lund
Colleague at Cisco, discussing hardware security and AI-enabled networking
Cisco
Episode: Networks Under Siege – AI Security, Infrastructure Threats, and the Battle to Protect Carrier Networks
Yago Tenorio
Representative from Verizon discussed Open RAN and carrier strategy
Verizon
Episode: The AI-Driven Network – How Artificial Intelligence Is Reshaping Architecture, Open RAN and the Future of Work
Masum Mir
SVP and GM of Cisco's Provider Mobility Business
Cisco
Episode: Masum Mir of Cisco on AI Data Gravity, IT/OT Convergence, and the Edge Opportunity
Santiago Yago Tenorio
CTO of Verizon
Verizon
Episode: Yago Tenorio of Verizon on AI, Open RAN, and the Next Smartphone Moment
Ryan Asdourian
EVP and Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer at Lumen
Lumen
Episode: Ryan Asdourian of Lumen on Culture, AI, and the Next Era of Carriers

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Ryan Asdourian of Lumen on Culture, AI, and the Next Era of Carriers
Q: What is the biggest challenge service providers face today?
Ensuring trust and reliability in the systems, and making AI-enabled networks work consistently across a distributed, multi-cloud environment.
Ryan Asdourian of Lumen on Culture, AI, and the Next Era of Carriers
Q: Are enterprises coming to you asking for a network that can handle AI, or do you have to educate them about what they will need?
Customers shape the future and help guide our offerings; we balance educating them about AI readiness with delivering a flexible, secure, and scalable infrastructure.
The AI-Driven Network – How Artificial Intelligence Is Reshaping Architecture, Open RAN and the Future of Work
Q: Open RAN and interoperability—what is realistically achievable today versus the myth of full plug-and-play across vendors?
Interoperability exists, but rigorous testing and proper open interfaces are necessary; carriers can mix hardware but must plan for compatibility and testing to avoid vendor lock-in and service gaps.
The AI-Driven Network – How Artificial Intelligence Is Reshaping Architecture, Open RAN and the Future of Work
Q: What does AI and automation mean for your job in different countries, and how should workers prepare?
The conversation suggests a hybrid approach where automation enhances human work rather than fully displacing it, with reskilling and adaptation across regions as workloads shift toward AI-enabled operations.
The AI-Driven Network – How Artificial Intelligence Is Reshaping Architecture, Open RAN and the Future of Work
Q: But isn't the future of AI, it's at the edge of the network, isn't it? Because it has to connect to something, doesn't it?
Yes—the edge is essential for latency-sensitive AI services, with agents and inference occurring close to users and devices, complemented by centralized clouds for broader processing and coordination.

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What is Carrier 2.0 about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Carrier 2.0 delivers unfiltered conversations with senior telecom executives and technology leaders, focusing on how carriers evolve beyond traditional connectivity. Recent episodes center on data sovereignty, AI-driven networks, Open RAN, edge computing, and the governance and trust required to monetize modern deployments. The show often features executives from large operators and tech vendors discussing practical architecture, platform strategy, and real-world deployments, with a clear emphasis on enterprise outcomes, security, and regional network strategy. Its distinct angle is combining hard industry challenges with actionable lessons and bold forecasts about the telecom infrastructure of the near future, making it valuable for listen... more

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2. Tom Gillis
3. Martin Lund
4. Yago Tenorio
5. Masum Mir
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7. Ryan Asdourian

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