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Calm in the Chaos - U.S. Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer Podcast

Brian Dickinson
United States Navy
Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer
Vietnam War
Iraq
Baghdad, Iraq
Rescue Swimmer School
Iraq War
Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer Program
Reptiles
CSAR
SAR
Rescue Swimmer
Navy Aviation Rescue
Sigonella, Italy
Pensacola, United States
Brian Dickinson
Whidbey Island
Kuwait
Navy & Marine Corps Medal
Gulf War / Iraq Deployments

Calm in the Chaos shares real rescue stories from the U.S. Navy’s Aviation Rescue Swimmers. Hosted by Brian Dickinson—bestselling author, former Navy Rescue Swimmer, and Everest solo summiteer. Ranked in the top 10% of podcasts worldwide, the show digs into the grit, mindset, and faith it takes to run toward the chaos so others may live. Support the mission at briandickinson.net. Not affiliated wi... more

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Some warriors fight their battles in the ocean. Others fight them long after the uniform comes off.

In this episode of Calm in the Chaos, Kevin McNease shares 20 years of service as a U.S. Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer—including a harrowing rescue in... more

Some missions go wrong before they even begin. Others turn into something no one could have planned for.

In this episode of Calm in the Chaos, Richard Swope shares his career as a U.S. Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer—including two of the most intense m... more

For the first time, Apollo-era and Artemis-era recovery are compared side by side by the people who actually did the job.

Mike Longe, U.S. Navy helicopter aircrewman from the Apollo recovery missions, and Steve Williams, Senior Chief rescue swimmer ... more

Combat Search and Rescue Veteran Bryan Trembath | 10 Gulf Deployments, 300+ Missions, Pentagon 9/11 First Response

Some careers are built in training. Others are forged in real-world missions.

In this episode of Calm in the Chaos, Bryan Trembath sh... more

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Recent Guests

Mike Longe
Former Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer, Apollo 13 recovery participant
United States Navy
Episode: Apollo vs Artemis Recovery | Navy Aircrew Compare Splashdown Ops (Mike Longe & Steve Williams)
Steve Williams
Senior chief, Artemis crew recovery participant
United States Navy
Episode: Apollo vs Artemis Recovery | Navy Aircrew Compare Splashdown Ops (Mike Longe & Steve Williams)
Bryan Trembath
Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer (T‑Bone)
U.S. Navy CSAR, Red Wolves/HCS units
Episode: Combat Search and Rescue Veteran Bryan Trembath | 10 Gulf Deployments, 300+ Missions, Pentagon 9/11 First Response
Ben Thacker
Former Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer
U.S. Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmers
Episode: Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer Ben Thacker | Real SAR Rescues from NAS Whidbey Island, Leadership & Decision-Making Under Pressure
Greg Baker
US Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer, retired chief
US Navy
Episode: 20 Years as a Navy Rescue Swimmer | SAR School Instructor to NSW Support | Greg Baker on High-Risk Rescues & Leadership Under Pressure
Bob Nowak
Master Chief, retired after 31 years of Navy service
U.S. Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer
Episode: From Vietnam to Navy SAR Evaluator | Bob Nowak on 30+ Years of Search and Rescue, DEA Prisoner Recovery & Whidbey Island SAR
Jeff Strickland
Former Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer; host says he had a long career in the rescue community
U.S. Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmers
Episode: 20+ Years as a Navy Rescue Swimmer | Flying Missions in Iraq with Jack Carr & SEAL Team Ops
Taryn Frazelle
US Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer, author of Calm in the Chaos
U.S. Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer
Episode: Aviation Rescue Swimmer | CrossFit Competitor | Rescue Near Papua New Guinea
Dave Allen
Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer, retired senior chief
United States Navy
Episode: Navy Rescue Swimmer Awarded the Navy & Marine Corps Medal | CH-46 Gulf Rescue and Iraq Deployments

Host

Brian Dickinson
Host of Calm in the Chaos, bestselling author, former Navy Rescue Swimmer, Everest solo summiteer

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 28 ratings
  • Awesome!!

    Great podcast

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Shawn_Bowen
    United Statesa year ago
  • Real life heroes

    Through Brian’s life experience and training, he is bringing his past training and career to a whole new audience. You don’t have to know what exactly SAR does, but listening to even just one episode, and you definitely will. Subscribe and enjoy the adventures of real life heroes!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Spartanfan2074
    United Statesa year ago

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Compelling real-life hero stories that highlight resilience.
Guests bring diverse, firsthand rescue experiences and leadership insights.

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Vietnam-Era Heroism | Combat SAR Stories That Defined a Generation
Q: What wisdom would you leave our listeners with after all these years of service?
He emphasizes staying calm under pressure, taking deliberate action, and avoiding panic to ensure the ability to save others and oneself.
Vietnam-Era Heroism | Combat SAR Stories That Defined a Generation
Q: What was the scenario like for 12,000-foot mountainous rescues in freezing conditions, and how would you approach such a mission as a rescue swimmer and air crew?
He explains prioritizing oxygen, wind considerations, high-altitude approach, and deliberate no-hover landings with strategic hoists and clearings, followed by careful on-scene management and extraction.
Vietnam-Era Heroism | Combat SAR Stories That Defined a Generation
Q: I know you had some incredible experiences. For everyone who doesn't know you, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself? Where did you grow up?
Bill discusses growing up in Montana and Wyoming, his path into the Navy for aviation opportunities, and how he progressed through A school into rescue training, leading to early deployments in Vietnam and the evolution of rescue techniques.
10 Years as a Navy Rescue Swimmer to Reptile Storyteller
Q: How did you prep for Everest and manage the mental side of such a solo ascent?
The guest explains that preparation was a culmination of military training, mountain guiding, time in challenging environments, and the mindset of training for controllable factors while adapting to the unpredictable, with a personal anecdote about staying calm during the ascent.
10 Years as a Navy Rescue Swimmer to Reptile Storyteller
Q: Tell us about your first deployment.
The guest describes deployment aboard a ship, forming a good working relationship with a senior crewman, and experiencing the unique dynamics of living and working at sea, including handling medevac duties and adjusting to ship life.

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Real rescue stories from U.S. Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmers, focusing on high-stakes hoists, mission-critical teamwork, and the mindset needed to run toward danger so others may live. Episodes compare legacy and modern rescue operations, share training, leadership under pressure, and personal journeys from Navy squadrons to civilian life. Notable throughlines include elite training, resilience, trauma processing, mentorship, and faith-driven motivation that underpins the host's storytelling. The show stands out for its vortex of authentic, mission-first anecdotes from frontline rescuers, combined with practical career lessons for current and aspiring rescue swimmers, veterans, and first responders who value discipline and service.

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2. Steve Williams
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8. Taryn Frazelle

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