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Breaking the Rules: A Clinician's Guide to Treating OCD

Dr Celin Gelgec and Dr Victoria Miller
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Mental Health
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder
Therapy
Exposure Therapy
Perfectionism
OCD
Perinatal Mental Health
Psychology
Ambivalence
Anxiety Disorders
Therapeutic Process
Anxiety
Exposure and Response Prevention
Values
Moral Scrupulosity
Motivational Interviewing
Identity
Change Process
Exposure Work

Breaking the Rules is a show for mental health professionals designed to help you build confidence in treating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Effective treatment of OCD requires commitment, creativity and the recognition that things can sometimes get a little … messy. And on the show, you’ll hear from a range of leading professionals and learn everything there is to know about OCD and other ... more

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Recent Guests

Clarissa Ong
Researcher on OCD, anxiety, and perfectionism; author of The Anxious Perfectionist
Academic researcher; author
Episode: Perfectionism, Process-Based Therapy & The Anxious Perfectionist
Catherine McGrath
Team member at Melbourne Wellbeing Group who comes back to share insights and learnings as a clinician
Melbourne Wellbeing Group
Episode: The Challenges of Clinical Practice
Felicity Phillips
In her final year studying medicine; former pre-professional ballerina
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Dr. Bianca Mastromanno
Clinical psychologist specializing in perinatal and infant mental health
Episode: Why revisiting a parent’s own childhood can help them as a new parent
Lindsay Stetzer
Co-founder of Presently and interior designer
Presently
Episode: How these sisters turned their OCD into a thriving jewellery business
Emily Stetzer
Co-founder of Presently and art director
Presently
Episode: How these sisters turned their OCD into a thriving jewellery business
Chrissie Hodges
Advocate and peer support specialist for the treatment of OCD
Founder of Treatment for OCD Consulting and 501c3 non-profit OCD Game Changers
Episode: How clinicians can provide better OCD treatment (from someone with OCD)
Emily Crawford
Educational and developmental psychologist with over 20 years of experience supporting families with mental health issues
Episode: How to support mothers with mental health difficulties
Natasha Daniels
Anxiety and OCD child therapist with over two decades of experience, author and host of AT Parenting Survival Podcast.
Episode: Building rapport and having fun is crucial for treating children with OCD and anxiety

Hosts

Dr. Celine Gelgich
Clinical psychologist with extensive work in OCD; host/voice of authority on episodes.
Dr. Torrie Miller
Co-host with clinical OCD expertise, often co-presenting on strategic therapy approaches.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 86 ratings
  • Brand New

    Brand new clinician here struggling with EVERYTHING you mention, and sooo grateful I stumbled upon your podcast. Thank you so much for such a beautiful insightful and comforting episode

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BJM_Dee
    Australia5 months ago
  • Helpful tips for people already being treated for OCD by a mental health professional.

    I am an OCD sufferer trying to make progress with ERP. I am being treated by a psychologist who specialises in OCD from the MWC. My exposures and this podcast helps me stay motivated. I also relate to the concept of the feared possible self and obsessive doubting. The FPS appears to give doubts relating to a theme more gravity. Is inference based CBT of value? Can obsessional self doubt be turned down with less inferencial confusion? Am I being ambivalent about ERP?

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Syd_Playing_It_Safe
    Australia2 years ago
  • Thank you, thank you!

    This is such an amazing resource for new therapists and those wanting to learn more about OCD. I’m so thankful to have found this and it’s inspired me to specialize in OCD treatment. Thank you Celin and Victoria!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KC.LICSW
    United States3 years ago
  • Helpful tips for people already being treated for OCD by a mental health professional.

    I am an OCD sufferer being treated for OCD with ERP "the evidence based gold standard" and this podcast helps me stay motivated.

    Doing the treatment is not easy and I have experienced doubts and uncertainties every step of the way. Motivation and determination is key because it can feel worse before it feels better.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Syd_Playing_It_Safe
    Australia3 years ago
  • From one clinician to another…

    I’m an experienced mental health clinician (10+ years) and I’ve always struggled with assessing and treating OCD. This podcast hits the right spot in proving education to clinicians and not talking down to them. Looking forward to more episodes!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PzAus
    Australia4 years ago

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Great guest variety and evidence-based therapy discussions that are applicable in real practice.
Thoughtful, clinically grounded OCD content that's practical and research-informed.
Hosts provide clear explanations without talking down to clinicians.
Excellent resource for clinicians expanding OCD expertise and ERP/ACT skills.

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Q: What is meta OCD?
Meta OCD is an obsessive concern about one's own OCD, including doubts about diagnosis and treatment effectiveness.
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Q: What message do you hope to communicate with Weight of the World?
I hope to provide a supportive community for those with eating disorders, promoting recovery and raising awareness about the complexities involved in these conditions.
How “skinny-tok” is feeding eating disorder content to teenagers
Q: What do you think clinicians should know about eating disorders?
Eating disorders are complex and should not be dismissed as mere vanity; they often stem from deeper issues and can be addictive, serving as coping mechanisms for individuals.
Supporting new parents with OCD
Q: What would you recommend to a clinician who maybe doesn't have as much experience in the perinatal space but has a referral?
It's essential for clinicians to navigate the line between validation and dismissiveness, understanding that many parents may feel overwhelmed and anxious in their environments.
The value of self-awareness, trust, and non-accommodating support
Q: Which tool or technique was most helpful in therapy?
Exposure therapy and taking time to track one’s thoughts and feelings were crucial in recovery.

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Mental health professionals tune into practical OCD treatment with a focus on clinical processes, evidence-based therapy, and challenging assumptions. Episodes frequently explore perfectionism, OCD subtypes, exposure therapies, family dynamics, trauma, and perinatal mental health, often featuring clinicians who share research-informed insights and real-world case reflections. Expect conversations that push conventional boundaries, emphasize psychological flexibility, and highlight the nuances of delivering ERP and ACT-based strategies in diverse clinical contexts. A standout aspect is the consistent pairing of clinician-hosts who blend research with hands-on guidance, creating a resource-rich, practice-oriented show for therapists seeking t... more

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