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Breaking the Rules: A Clinician's Guide to Treating OCD

Dr Celin Gelgec and Dr Victoria Miller
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Mental Health
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder
Ambivalence
OCD
Perfectionism
Anxiety Disorders
Exposure Therapy
Therapy
Identity
Therapeutic Process
Motivational Interviewing
Exposure Work
Values
Change Process
Clinical Psychology
Anxiety
Exposure and Response Prevention
Child Therapy
Parenting

Breaking the Rules is a show for mental health professionals designed to help you build confidence in treating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Effective treatment of OCD requires commitment, creativity and the recognition that things can sometimes get a little … messy. And on the show, you’ll hear from a range of leading professionals and learn everything there is to know about OCD and other ... more

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Latest Episodes

This honest and reflective episode takes listeners inside the therapy room—where clinical learnings, vulnerability, and growth unfold in real time.

Ms Catherine McGrath (Clinical Team Lead and Senior Psychologist) sharea hard-earned lessons from wo... more

In this episode, we explore the often misunderstood world of Meta OCD—a subtype of obsessive-compulsive disorder where the obsession becomes the diagnosis itself. Clients plagued by questions like "Do I really have OCD?" or "Is this the right treatme... more

In this insightful episode, we explore the tangled web of health anxiety, OCD, and death anxiety, unpacking how these psychological disorders often overlap and feed into each other. From obsessive thought patterns and compulsions to the deep-rooted f... more

In this episode, we dive deep into the world of Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP)—the gold standard treatment for Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)—through a clinical and ethical lens.

We unpack the delicate balance between challenging client... more

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Recent Guests

Felicity Phillips
In her final year studying medicine; former pre-professional ballerina
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Dr. Bianca Mastromanno
Clinical psychologist specializing in perinatal and infant mental health
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Co-founder of Presently and art director
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Chrissie Hodges
Advocate and peer support specialist for the treatment of OCD
Founder of Treatment for OCD Consulting and 501c3 non-profit OCD Game Changers
Episode: How clinicians can provide better OCD treatment (from someone with OCD)
Emily Crawford
Educational and developmental psychologist with over 20 years experience supporting adults, children, and families.
Episode: Why strong support networks are vital for mothers throughout and after pregnancy
Natasha Daniels
Anxiety and OCD child therapist with over two decades of experience, author and host of AT Parenting Survival Podcast.
Episode: Building rapport and having fun is crucial for treating children with OCD and anxiety
Dr. Brett Deacon
Associate professor of psychology and convener of the clinical psychology program at the University of Melbourne
University of Melbourne
Episode: How to find the right balance in discomfort during ERP
George Habib
A clinical psychologist and Associate Director of Wellbeing Services at the University of Melbourne
University of Melbourne
Episode: Unlocking flexibility in OCD therapy

Hosts

Dr. Celin Gelgich
Clinical psychologist who works extensively with OCD and host of the show.
Dr. Victoria Miller
Clinical psychologist specializing in emotional health and working with young people, including those with OCD.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 82 ratings
  • Helpful tips for people already being treated for OCD by a mental health professional.

    I am an OCD sufferer trying to make progress with ERP. I am being treated by a psychologist who specialises in OCD from the MWC. My exposures and this podcast helps me stay motivated. I also relate to the concept of the feared possible self and obsessive doubting. The FPS appears to give doubts relating to a theme more gravity. Is inference based CBT of value? Can obsessional self doubt be turned down with less inferencial confusion? Am I being ambivalent about ERP?

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Syd_Playing_It_Safe
    Australiaa year ago
  • Thank you, thank you!

    This is such an amazing resource for new therapists and those wanting to learn more about OCD. I’m so thankful to have found this and it’s inspired me to specialize in OCD treatment. Thank you Celin and Victoria!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KC.LICSW
    United States2 years ago
  • Helpful tips for people already being treated for OCD by a mental health professional.

    I am an OCD sufferer being treated for OCD with ERP "the evidence based gold standard" and this podcast helps me stay motivated.

    Doing the treatment is not easy and I have experienced doubts and uncertainties every step of the way. Motivation and determination is key because it can feel worse before it feels better.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Syd_Playing_It_Safe
    Australia3 years ago
  • From one clinician to another…

    I’m an experienced mental health clinician (10+ years) and I’ve always struggled with assessing and treating OCD. This podcast hits the right spot in proving education to clinicians and not talking down to them. Looking forward to more episodes!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PzAus
    Australia3 years ago

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Listeners appreciate the emphasis on real-life applications and therapeutic strategies, making complex topics more accessible to practitioners.
The discussions resonate well with both mental health professionals and those enduring OCD, bridging gaps in understanding and support.
This podcast is an amazing resource for new clinicians aiming to specialize in OCD treatment, providing invaluable insights and practical advice.

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Unpacking Meta OCD: A Deep Dive
Q: What is meta OCD?
Meta OCD is an obsessive concern about one's own OCD, including doubts about diagnosis and treatment effectiveness.
How “skinny-tok” is feeding eating disorder content to teenagers
Q: What message do you hope to communicate with Weight of the World?
I hope to provide a supportive community for those with eating disorders, promoting recovery and raising awareness about the complexities involved in these conditions.
How “skinny-tok” is feeding eating disorder content to teenagers
Q: What do you think clinicians should know about eating disorders?
Eating disorders are complex and should not be dismissed as mere vanity; they often stem from deeper issues and can be addictive, serving as coping mechanisms for individuals.
Supporting new parents with OCD
Q: What would you recommend to a clinician who maybe doesn't have as much experience in the perinatal space but has a referral?
It's essential for clinicians to navigate the line between validation and dismissiveness, understanding that many parents may feel overwhelmed and anxious in their environments.
The value of self-awareness, trust, and non-accommodating support
Q: Which tool or technique was most helpful in therapy?
Exposure therapy and taking time to track one’s thoughts and feelings were crucial in recovery.

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This podcast provides an insightful exploration into the complexities of treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and other related mental health issues, specifically designed for mental health professionals. Episodes feature expert discussions on various topics, including health anxiety, exposure response prevention therapy, and the specific challenges faced by both clinicians and clients coping with OCD. The show stands out for its focus on real-world applications and strategies for effective treatment, emphasizing the need for a creative and flexible approach to therapy. Listeners can expect to gain practical advice from leading professionals in the field, enriching their understanding and confidence in dealing with OCD and its assoc... more

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2. Dr. Bianca Mastromanno
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