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Apathy Is Not An Option

SPLC
Southern Poverty Law Center
Democracy
Social Justice
Poverty
Black History
Economic Justice
Inequality
Civil Rights Movement
Public Memory
Immigrant Rights
Civil Rights
Voting Rights
Ku Klux Klan
LGBTQIA Rights
Social Safety Nets
Department Of Education
Censorship
Atlanta Pride
Afrofuturism
Voting Rights Act

While the fight for social justice is ongoing, SPLC and communities in the South continue to make progress on the most pressing issues facing our country. Every month, we go behind the headlines to bring you relevant stories that center around social justice in the South. From eradicating poverty to voting rights, and dismantling White Nationalism, we actively reshape the narrative of what’s happe... more

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April is Fair Housing Month — a time to reflect on what it really takes to achieve housing justice. In this episode of Apathy Is Not an Option, host Alex Beightol is joined by Teresa Fox-Bettis, a regional fair housing expert based in the Gulf Coast,... more

What does it take to build a future where Black communities not only survive, but thrive? Walter Greason and Reynaldo Anderson join Apathy Is Not an Option to explore how Afrofuturism helps us reimagine what’s possible and how it intersects with the ... more

In recognition of Women’s History Month, Apathy Is Not an Option sits down with Karen Baynes-Dunning, the first Black woman to serve as board chair of the Southern Poverty Law Center. Baynes-Dunning shares the lessons she learned from the women who i... more

Bernice A. King, CEO of The King Center, joins SPLC investigative reporter Caitlin Cruz for a powerful conversation about her journey from resisting the legacy of her parents — the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King — to embracing her... more

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Recent Guests

Teresa Fox-Bettis
Executive Director of the Center for Fair Housing in Mobile, Alabama
Center for Fair Housing, Mobile, AL
Episode: Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability
Richard Rothstein
Housing scholar and author of The Color of Law
Economist/Author
Episode: Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability
Walter Greason
Afrofuturist scholar
Kean University / transitively discussed through SPLC interview
Episode: Ep. 15: Afrofuturism in Action: Reimagining a Future Where Black Communities Thrive
Reynaldo Anderson
Afrofuturist scholar
Calgary or related affiliations mentioned in discussion (not clearly stated in excerpt)
Episode: Ep. 15: Afrofuturism in Action: Reimagining a Future Where Black Communities Thrive
Karen Baynes-Dunning
First Black woman elected chair of the SPLC Board of Directors
Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)
Episode: Ep. 14: Women’s History Month: Power, Purpose and Leadership
Bernice King
CEO of The King Center and daughter of Coretta Scott King and Martin Luther King Jr.
The King Center
Episode: Ep. 13 Bernice A. King on Embracing Her Parents’ Legacy
Lauren Blanding
Manager of the Civil Rights Memorial Center
Southern Poverty Law Center
Episode: Ep. 12 Museums: Memory, Power & Public Truth
Elizabeth Reese
Senior Manager of Public Programs and Interpretation at Woodlawn & Pope-Leighey House
Woodlawn & Pope-Leighey House
Episode: Ep. 12 Museums: Memory, Power & Public Truth
Dan Moore Jr.
President and CEO of the APEX Museum
APEX Museum
Episode: Ep. 12 Museums: Memory, Power & Public Truth

Hosts

Alexandria Beightol
Host of Apathy Is Not An Option, writer with focus on culture and history in the South
Cassandra Douglas
Executive Producer providing oversight on program development

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 72 ratings
  • She’s amazing!!!

    I love this podcast. So insightful and important! This education is invaluable ♥️

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    K DeKlavon
    United Statesa month ago

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Insightful discussions that highlight local action and policy impact.
Thoughtful, well-researched episodes that make complex issues accessible.
High-quality guests with credentials in civil rights, policy, and activism.
Compelling storytelling that connects history to present-day inequalities.

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Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability
Q: What would housing look like if we were no longer bound by grant constraints and funding structures?
Teresa suggests a community-driven approach where residents, not grant mandates, shape housing policy and address needs like parks, transportation, and employment opportunities.
Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability
Q: What is the Center for Fair Housing's mission today?
The mission is to advocate for justice, enforce fair housing laws, and educate communities on their rights to ensure equity and opportunity for healthy, inclusive neighborhoods.
Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability
Q: Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and the work that you do?
Teresa Fox-Bettis describes her long-standing role since 1999 as Executive Director of the Center for Fair Housing in Mobile, Alabama, guiding its eight-county rural service area and focusing on advocacy, enforcement of fair housing laws, and community education.
Ep. 13 Bernice A. King on Embracing Her Parents’ Legacy
Q: What was it like growing up as a public figure connected to two iconic leaders?
It was a balancing act of honoring the legacy while forging her own path, ultimately choosing a calling that aligned with her gifts and responsibilities, and understanding that she is not meant to be her parents but to be her own leader.
Ep. 11 Poverty & Possibility: Truth, Dignity & Relief
Q: When did you first recognize this link between racism, inequality, and poverty in this country?
Fair recognized this link as an undergraduate when studying the history of the Southern Slave Society and began connecting lived experiences with policies.

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