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Apathy Is Not An Option

SPLC
Southern Poverty Law Center
Democracy
Social Justice
Poverty
Black History
Economic Justice
Inequality
Civil Rights Movement
Public Memory
Immigrant Rights
Civil Rights
Voting Rights
Ku Klux Klan
LGBTQIA Rights
Social Safety Nets
Department Of Education
Censorship
Atlanta Pride
Afrofuturism
Voting Rights Act

While the fight for social justice is ongoing, SPLC and communities in the South continue to make progress on the most pressing issues facing our country. Every month, we go behind the headlines to bring you relevant stories that center around social justice in the South. From eradicating poverty to voting rights, and dismantling White Nationalism, we actively reshape the narrative of what’s happe... more

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The United States’ 250th year is a time for celebrating, reflecting and looking ahead to envision the nation’s next milestones. Apathy Is Not an Option talks to the SPLC’s Rivka Maizlish about how to honestly reckon with the past on this important oc... more

What does it take to protect a community from being pushed off its own land? This week on Apathy Is Not an Option, Sapelo Island advocate Josiah “Jazz” Watts joins attorneys from the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Economic Justice litigation team to b... more

April is Fair Housing Month — a time to reflect on what it really takes to achieve housing justice. In this episode of Apathy Is Not an Option, host Alex Beightol is joined by Teresa Fox-Bettis, a regional fair housing expert based in the Gulf Coast,... more

What does it take to build a future where Black communities not only survive, but thrive? Walter Greason and Reynaldo Anderson join Apathy Is Not an Option to explore how Afrofuturism helps us reimagine what’s possible and how it intersects with the ... more

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Recent Guests

Harper Walton-Mouw
Writer, recent high school graduate, Atlanta resident
Unspecified in transcript
Episode: Ep. 18: Looking Back and Moving Forward for America’s 250th
Rivka Maizlish
Historian and senior research analyst with the SPLC Intelligence Project
Southern Poverty Law Center
Episode: Ep. 18: Looking Back and Moving Forward for America’s 250th
Carol Anderson
Author of White Rage; Robert W. Woodruff Professor of African American Studies at Emory University
Emory University
Episode: Ep. 18: Looking Back and Moving Forward for America’s 250th
Josiah Watts
Sapelo descendant, writer, cultural preservationist, Sapelo Project creator
Sapelo Island community, Sapelo Project
Episode: Ep. 17: Protect Sapelo. Defend Our Legacy.
Melissa Williams
SPLC attorney
Southern Poverty Law Center
Episode: Ep. 17: Protect Sapelo. Defend Our Legacy.
Miriam Gutman
SPLC attorney
Southern Poverty Law Center
Episode: Ep. 17: Protect Sapelo. Defend Our Legacy.
Teresa Fox-Bettis
Executive Director of the Center for Fair Housing in Mobile, Alabama
Center for Fair Housing, Mobile, AL
Episode: Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability
Richard Rothstein
Housing scholar and author of The Color of Law
Economist/Author
Episode: Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability
Walter Greason
Afrofuturist scholar
Kean University / transitively discussed through SPLC interview
Episode: Ep. 15: Afrofuturism in Action: Reimagining a Future Where Black Communities Thrive

Host

Alexandria Beightol
Host of Apathy Is Not An Option; culture and history writer from the South; affiliated with Southern Poverty Law Center

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 75 ratings
  • She’s amazing!!!

    I love this podcast. So insightful and important! This education is invaluable ♥️

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    K DeKlavon
    United States4 months ago

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#203
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#103
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#136
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#179
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Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability
Q: What would housing look like if we were no longer bound by grant constraints and funding structures?
Teresa suggests a community-driven approach where residents, not grant mandates, shape housing policy and address needs like parks, transportation, and employment opportunities.
Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability
Q: What is the Center for Fair Housing's mission today?
The mission is to advocate for justice, enforce fair housing laws, and educate communities on their rights to ensure equity and opportunity for healthy, inclusive neighborhoods.
Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability
Q: Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and the work that you do?
Teresa Fox-Bettis describes her long-standing role since 1999 as Executive Director of the Center for Fair Housing in Mobile, Alabama, guiding its eight-county rural service area and focusing on advocacy, enforcement of fair housing laws, and community education.
Ep. 13 Bernice A. King on Embracing Her Parents’ Legacy
Q: What was it like growing up as a public figure connected to two iconic leaders?
It was a balancing act of honoring the legacy while forging her own path, ultimately choosing a calling that aligned with her gifts and responsibilities, and understanding that she is not meant to be her parents but to be her own leader.
Ep. 11 Poverty & Possibility: Truth, Dignity & Relief
Q: When did you first recognize this link between racism, inequality, and poverty in this country?
Fair recognized this link as an undergraduate when studying the history of the Southern Slave Society and began connecting lived experiences with policies.

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The show centers on social justice in the South, exploring themes like democracy, memory, civil rights, housing equity, and racial justice through conversations with scholars, activists, journalists, and museum professionals. Episodes often weave historical context with current policy and community organizing, highlighting how laws, memory, and public narratives shape everyday life. Notable throughlines include the persistence of inequality, the power of storytelling in shaping public perception, and practical calls to action for civic engagement and democratic resilience. The program stands out for its interdisciplinary approach, blending legal analysis, historical memory, Afrofuturist discourse, and on-the-ground community perspectives to... more

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