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about four o'clock

Fr. Chad Arnold
Catholic Priesthood
Vocations
Catholic Church
Vocation
Discernment
Priesthood
Vocation Discernment
Seminary
Seminary Life
Community
Wichita
Prayer
Diocese Of Wichita
Vocational Discernment
Wichita, United States
Catholic Education
Mass
Liturgy Of the Hours
Evangelization
Religious Life

A podcast for anyone discerning a vocation to the Catholic priesthood. One's vocation from God is a deeply personal adventure. Yet frequently there are common threads that run through the Lord's calling. Three Catholic priests sit down to discuss the familiar questions that come along with discernment while also sharing the joys and challenges of their own priestly adventure with God. We're here t... more

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Fr. Luke Meyerhoff joins the studio to talk about the Royals, his favorite baseball stadiums, and several photos that reveal foreshadowing of his priestly vocation. Finally, he shares his vocation story and the importance of claiming personal freedom... more

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Recent Guests

Luke Meyerhoff
Parish priest and former seminary student
St. Catherine of Siena Parish, Wichita
Episode: Guest: Fr. Luke Meyerhoff
Sister Philomena Clare
Sr., Franciscan Sisters TOR of Penance of the Sorrowful Mother, vocation director
Franciscan Sisters TOR of Penance of the Sorrowful Mother
Episode: Guest: Sr. Philomena Clare, T.O.R.
Father Kyle Demel
Priest and guest on the episode
Magdalen (St. Paul/St. Magdalene context in episode)
Episode: Guest: Fr. Kyle Demel
Father Jeremy Huser
Priest serving in Greenwood County (Eureka, Madison, Hamilton)
Parishes in Greenwood County, Kansas
Episode: Guest: Fr. Jeremy Huser
Father Joe Hoffman
Regular participant suggested by intro
Episode: Guest: Fr. Jeremy Huser
Drew Hoffman
Guest participant mentioned as without a title
Episode: St. Philip Neri Seminary
Father Hayden Charles
Chaplain this week
Diocese of Wichita
Episode: Live Episode at Camp Totus Tuus
Father Jim Billinger
Guest; priest with extensive ministry in prisons and diocesan roles
Diocese of Wichita
Episode: Guest: Fr. Jim Billinger
Sister Julian Marie
Sister in the IHM Sisters
Immaculate Heart of Mary (IHM) Sisters
Episode: Guest: Sr. Julian Marie, IHM

Hosts

Garrett Burns
Host of About Four O'Clock; Catholic priest in the Diocese of Wichita; facilitates interview and discussion
Drew Hoffman
Co-host; regular contributor and interviewer
Chad Arnold
Co-host in studio; regular guest/host contributor

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 278 ratings
  • Love It!

    I’ve been discerning lately and this podcast has helped tremendously. However, they need to invite Fr. Michael Linnebur onto the podcast. Thanks!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    greatfulDude
    United Statesa year ago
  • great to hear the stories of the vocations of our priests. good humor, and lots of laughs.

    Audible
    5
    Amazon Customer
    United Statesa year ago
  • very enjoyable

    great to hear the stories of the vocations of our priests. good humor, and lots of laughs.

    Audible
    5
    Amazon Customer
    United Statesa year ago
  • A great resource by great priests

    I recently felt a call to the priesthood and I thought, surely there is a podcast about discernment. I found a few but this one stood out. They do a good job of incorporating witty banter and staying on topic. I started listening to the podcast from the beginning on 4/10/25 and just got caught up on 6/13/25. It’s basically all I’ve been listening to and now I’m not sure what to do haha

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    J Bresee
    United Statesa year ago
  • A great podcast for those discerning a vocation.

    I’m not a man, so not discerning the priesthood. But I am discerning religious life and I get a lot out of this podcast! Making my second come and see visit next week :)

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Stagefright1020
    United States2 years ago

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Listeners praise candid discussions, practical vocation guidance, and warm host camaraderie.
Guests and episodes are described as insightful, generous, and faith-affirming for those discerning priesthood.
Many appreciate the approachable format and humor coupled with deep spiritual insights.

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Guest: Fr. Kyle Demel
Q: What was it like transitioning from engineering to philosophy and seminary?
Kyle describes initial fears about the switch, the steep difference between analytical thinking and philosophy, and how a straight transition from college to seminary helped maintain continuity in study and prayer, ultimately reinforcing his sense of vocation.
Guest: Fr. Kyle Demel
Q: How did you grow up and what is your vocation story?
Kyle grew up in Wichita in a devout Catholic family, encountered signs prompting discernment in high school, explored seminary during college at Kansas State, joined Kendrick Glennon Seminary in St. Louis, faced common doubts about leaving engineering for philosophy and seminary, and ultimately embraced priesthood at Magdalen after six years of formation.
Guest: Fr. Jim Billinger
Q: What ministries have shaped your priesthood, and how do you describe their impact?
Prison ministry has been deeply rewarding, with work across multiple institutions; teaching and serving in parishes, and balancing time between youth and jail settings, all of which reinforced the beauty and challenges of being a priest and serving with presence and mercy.
Guest: Fr. Jim Billinger
Q: What first drew you to priesthood and where did your vocation begin?
I grew up in a Catholic family, encountered various experiences in sports and college, and after being inspired by a cheerful priest at St. Paul's, I began to think seriously about a vocation, eventually entering seminary and discovering a home in the priestly life.
Guest: Sr. Mary Elizabeth, IHM
Q: Could you share your vocation story and how you felt drawn to religious life?
Sister Mary Elizabeth describes growing up in a faith-filled family, exposure to Catholic education, and early pro-life involvement. She recalls moments of hesitation and searching, including a commitment to Holy Hours, Daily Mass, and conversations with mentors that ultimately led her to seek religious life with the IHMs.

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A discussion-focused series where three Catholic priests explore discernment and priestly life, sharing personal vocation stories, practical guidance, and humor. Episodes blend real-world ministry topics—discernment, formation, family influence, cross-cultural clergy experiences, and liturgical heritage—with candid reflections on faith, community, and daily ministry. Guests from religious orders and diocesan backgrounds often contribute firsthand perspectives, creating an approachable, human-centered look at what it means to answer God's call. The show stands out for its warm banter, tangible takeaways for aspiring vocations, and a consistent emphasis on hope, humility, and joyful service.

Potential listeners—especially those exploring pri... more

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Recent guests on about four o'clock include:

1. Luke Meyerhoff
2. Sister Philomena Clare
3. Father Kyle Demel
4. Father Jeremy Huser
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