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World's Toughest Job

Foreign Policy
United Nations
Security Council
Climate Change
Africa
Artificial Intelligence
Undersea Cables
General Assembly
Maritime Security
Strait Of Hormuz
World Food Programme
Development
Cuban Missile Crisis
Debt Governance
Global Governance
Kofi Annan
Paris Agreement
Nuclear Weapons
Private Sector

The United Nations secretary-general has been said to hold the “most impossible job in the world.” And for just the 10th time in the organization’s history, a new candidate will soon be stepping into that role. Through immersive storytelling and voices from around the globe, World’s Toughest Job explores the challenges facing the next UN leader. Over eight episodes, we’ll examine how the secretary... more

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Recent Guests

Josette Sheeran
Former Executive Director of the World Food Programme
World Food Programme
Episode: Can the UN Still Act as the Emergency Platform the World Needs?
Parag Khanna
Global strategist focused on geopolitical and connectivity issues
AlphaGeo
Episode: How Can a New Secretary-General Protect the Infrastructure We All Depend on?
Sal Mercogliano
Associate professor of history and shipping expert
Campbell University
Episode: How Can a New Secretary-General Protect the Infrastructure We All Depend on?
Elisabeth Braw
Senior fellow and author focused on security and gray-zone aggression
Atlantic Council
Episode: How Can a New Secretary-General Protect the Infrastructure We All Depend on?
Homi Kharas
Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution; co-author of SDG blueprint
Brookings Institution
Episode: As Another Economic Crisis Looms, How Should the UN Respond?
Carlos Lopes
Former head of UN Economic Commission for Africa space; Africa-focused analyst
University of Cape Town / UN
Episode: As Another Economic Crisis Looms, How Should the UN Respond?
Attiya Waris
Law professor at University of Nairobi; debt and tax policy expert
University of Nairobi
Episode: As Another Economic Crisis Looms, How Should the UN Respond?
David Stephen
Senior Fellow, UN Foundation; consulting/pro development background
UN Foundation
Episode: As Another Economic Crisis Looms, How Should the UN Respond?
Philip Thigo
Kenya's Special Envoy for Technology, led UN AI environmental impact resolution
Kenya/Montioring global AI governance
Episode: Does the UN Have a Seat at the AI Table?

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Jasmin Baoumy
Host of Worlds Toughest Job; Foreign Policy and UN Foundation

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    I loved the historical angles and the host

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As Another Economic Crisis Looms, How Should the UN Respond?
Q: What is the overarching task for the next Secretary General in the context of an ongoing economic crisis?
The next Secretary General should act as a convening broker, pushing for a balanced approach that combines strong policy framing with practical, multi-layered solutions, including debt governance reforms, new financial architectures, and targeted international cooperation beyond traditional universal multilateralism.
Can the Secretary-General Still Act as a Firebreak on Peace and Security?
Q: What exactly can the next Secretary General expect to deal with in terms of conflicts and diplomacy in the near term?
Experts outline a need for the SG to be more present in conflict diplomacy, to defend legal principles, and to act as a strategic convenor who can shape norms and preventive diplomacy before crises worsen.

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This program centers on the UN Secretary-General role, examining its daunting challenges through in-depth conversations with diplomats, policy experts, and scholars. Recent episodes explore topics like global debt governance, AI governance, climate action, development reform, and power dynamics among great powers. A notable strength is the roundtable format that weaves historical context with contemporary policy debates, often comparing past leaders to current leadership needs and envisioning how the UN could adapt to a rapidly changing geopolitical landscape. The show frequently connects high-level diplomacy with on-the-ground implications for development, governance, and international cooperation, making it a compelling listen for policym... more

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