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Wicked Coin

Wicked Coin
Wells Fargo
United States Congress
George Santos
Collegiate Athletics
NCAA
Sports Betting
Comverse Technology
Bangladesh
Tarique Rahman
FBI
Medicare
Fareed Fata
Pigbutchering Scams
Stock Options Backdating
Health Care Fraud
Carbanak
Iowa
Kobi Alexander
Khaleda Zia
United States

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Former Wells Fargo CEO John Stumpf entered a Senate hearing facing difficult questions about unauthorized customer accounts. What followed became one of the most frequently cited examples of how congressional testimony can shape the trajectory of a c... more

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What happens when a Chinese metal magnate decides to become one of the world’s most daring tariff dodgers? Join Diana Shaw, Tatiana Sainati, and their special guest, trade-law powerhouse Greta Peisch, as they dive into the staggering tale of “Big Bos... more

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What began as a seemingly harmless children’s book series became one of Baltimore’s most appalling public corruption scandals. Join Tatiana Sainati, Diana Shaw, and their colleague Craig Smith as they unpack how then-Mayor Catherine Pugh’s "Healthy H... more

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What if the most dangerous criminals didn’t smash their way in – but quietly embedded themselves and learned the system from the inside? In this episode of Wicked Coin, hosts Diana Shaw and Tatiana Sainati are joined by Lyn Brown and Erin Joe to exam... more

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In this episode, Tatiana Sainati and Diana Shaw are joined by colleague Frank Scaduto, a crypto litigator and podcaster, to unpack one of the most sophisticated fraud schemes operating today: crypto “pig butchering” scams. What often begins as an inn... more

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In this episode of Wicked Coin, Diana Shaw and Tatiana Sainati explore one of the most disturbing healthcare fraud schemes in U.S. history: a trusted oncologist who exploited patients’ deepest fears, administering often devastating cancer treatments ... more

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In this episode of Wicked Coin, Tatiana Sainati and Diana Shaw are joined by former government auditor and attorney Dr. J. Kirk McGill, who recounts his firsthand experience uncovering serious flaws in federal grant management. Kirk walks listeners t... more

Bribes wired across borders. Judges who flee the bench. A nation whiplashed between rival leaders while their corrupt regimes leave a money trail a mile long. In this episode, hosts Tatiana Sainati and Diana Shaw sit down with their guest, former FBI... more

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Peter Rechter
Newest partner at Wiley Rein; former senior counsel to the ranking member of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee
Wiley Rein
Episode: A Stagecoach, a Scandal, and a Senate Takedown
Greta Peisch
Partner in Wiley's International Trade Group
Wiley Rein
Episode: Big Boss and the $1.8 Billion Lie
Craig Smith
Partner in government contracts group, Baltimore resident
Wiley Rein
Episode: Storybook Scandal: The Healthy Holly Hustle
Lyn Brown
Partner at Wiley Rein, former FBI Cyber Law Unit acting chief
Wiley Rein
Episode: Keyboard Cartel: The Carbanak Story
Erin Joe
Special counsel in Wiley Rein cyber and privacy practice
Wiley Rein
Episode: Keyboard Cartel: The Carbanak Story
Frank Scaduto
Crypto counsel and podcaster with SEC and crypto exchanges experience
Wiley Rein LLP
Episode: Pig Butchering: Crypto’s Cruelest Con
Christi Grimm
Former HHS Inspector General; Managing Director at BDO Healthcare Forensics and Investigations
BDO
Episode: Poisoned Trust: The Farid Fata Scandal
Kirk McGill
Former senior auditor at the Defense Contract Audit Agency, later attorney
Hall Estill
Episode: The Whistleblower Who Couldn’t Look Away
Debra LaPrevotte
Former FBI supervisory special agent and investigator of international corruption cases
FBI
Episode: Bangladesh’s Battle with Power, Corruption, and Justice

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Tatiana Sainati
Host of Wicked Coin and co-host providing legal and analytical perspective; DC-based law firm practitioner
Diana Shaw
Co-host and legal expert on white collar crimes; hosts and guest co-hosts; guides show discussions

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Deceiving Your Way to the American Dream: The George Santos Story
Q: What is the significance of the ethics committee process in cases like Santos' and how did it unfold?
The House Ethics Committee conducted formal reviews, and despite initial delays and partisan concerns, ultimately pursued expulsion through a bipartisan process after a damning ethics report, marking a rare enforcement action in modern times.
Deceiving Your Way to the American Dream: The George Santos Story
Q: How did Santos' personal narrative function as a political strategy and where did it start to unravel?
His carefully crafted background—claims of elite education, Wall Street success, and immigrant roots—was used to appeal to multiple voter groups, but discrepancies across his disclosures and public statements created a tension that eventually drew investigative scrutiny and legal consequences.
Backdating, Bar Mitzvahs, and the Namibian Getaway: The Comverse Scandal Unraveled
Q: How did regulatory changes like Sarbanes-Oxley affect the prevalence or detectability of backdating?
Sarbanes-Oxley introduced the two-day disclosure rule and broader consequences for mispricing, plus stronger accounting for stock options, which reduced backdating opportunities and improved detection, though clever schemes have adapted with more robust tools now available to auditors and regulators.
Backdating, Bar Mitzvahs, and the Namibian Getaway: The Comverse Scandal Unraveled
Q: So Ira, can you walk us through what makes backdating illegal, and when it crosses the line into fraud?
Backdating can be legal if fully transparent, properly disclosed, and aligned with shareholder-approved plans; it becomes fraud when there is deception, undisclosed manipulation, or evasion of accounting and tax rules, as seen in Comverse where a slush fund and hidden timings crossed the line.
Storybook Scandal: The Healthy Holly Hustle
Q: Can we step back and discuss the safeguards that should have been in place to prevent this kind of governance failure?
We explored the need for formal written contracts, true competitive bidding, independent oversight, and clear recusal policies to prevent conflicts of interest, as well as the importance of transparent record-keeping and escalation channels.

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Across a sample of recent episodes, the show provides rigorously reported investigations into corruption, fraud, and governance failures, anchored by two lawyers who dissect complex schemes with regulatory and legal perspectives. Topics span public-sector scandals, healthcare fraud, cybercrime, financial misconduct, and government accountability, often weaving in expert commentary from white-collar defense and risk-management practitioners. A standout pattern is the emphasis on governance weaknesses, effective controls, and policy responses, alongside practical takeaways for organizations facing regulatory scrutiny or seeking to bolster anti-fraud and compliance programs. The format tends to blend narrative storytelling with technical analy... more

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