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The American Enterprise Institute’s Danielle Pletka and Marc Thiessen address the questions we’re all asking in their podcast, “What the Hell Is Going On?” In conversational, informative and irreverent episodes, Pletka and Thiessen interview policymakers and experts, asking tough, probing questions about the most important foreign policy and security challenges facing the world today.

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In this episode, Dr. Dominic Green joins us from the United Kingdom to discuss mounting protests and violence raging across Europe. It’s been a tumultuous month in France in particular, with Paris and other cities engulfed in fire fueled by radical g... more

We are joined by Luke Jacobus, one of AEI’s own, to highlight how China’s spies leverage the LinkedIn networking platform to recruit Americans to pass them sensitive knowledge. MSS agents use artificial intelligence to impersonate consultants and pay... more

In this episode, we are joined by Chris Miller for a clear-minded and sobering discussion of the future of AI. The geopolitical competition between the United States and China in the field of artificial intelligence is the arms race of the 21st centu... more

Jason Miyares, former attorney general for the state of Virginia, joins us to discuss Virginia’s hard political shift leftward — skyrocketing taxes, sanctuary cities — and the impact of these policies on its eight million citizens. We weigh rising cr... more

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Luke Jacobus
Research associate focused on Chinese politics, military affairs, influence, and espionage
Coalition Defense of Taiwan
Episode: WTH Is China Spying Through LinkedIn? With Luke Jacobus.
Chris Miller
Nonresident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and associate professor at Tufts University
American Enterprise Institute
Episode: WTH: Will AI End Humanity? Chris Miller Explains.
Jason Miyares
former Attorney General of Virginia, noted for law-and-order and immigration enforcement policies
Former Attorney General of Virginia
Episode: WTH: Jason Miyares on Five Easy Ways to Wreck a State.
Brett Schaefer
AEI colleague with UN Assessment Project
American Enterprise Institute
Episode: WTH Is Going on with Trump at the United Nations? Brett Schaefer Explains.
Chris Brose
President and Chief Strategy Officer of Anduril Industries; author of The Kill Chain
Anduril Industries
Episode: WTH Are We Doing To Replenish Our Weapons Stockpiles? Anduril’s Chris Brose Explains.
Stephen Hadley
Former National Security Advisor
Former National Security Council/White House
Episode: WTH Live! Remembering 9/11 25 Years Later with Stephen Hadley and J.D. Crouch.
J. D. Crouch
Former Deputy National Security Advisor
Former U.S. Deputy National Security Advisor
Episode: WTH Live! Remembering 9/11 25 Years Later with Stephen Hadley and J.D. Crouch.
Josh Kraushaar
Editor-in-chief, Jewish Insider; political analyst for Fox News Radio; columnist for Axios
Jewish Insider, Fox News Radio, Axios
Episode: WTH Is Happening With Midterms? With Josh Kraushaar.
Audrye Wong
Non-resident senior fellow at AEI; USC professor; expert on China and Asia-Pacific economic statecraft
American Enterprise Institute; University of Southern California
Episode: WTH Should I Read This Summer? "Subversion and Seduction" by Audrye Wong.

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Marc Thiessen
Host of the show; engages in foreign policy discussions; AEI
Danielle Pletka
Co-host who leads interviews with policymakers and experts; AEI

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 765 ratings
  • Could be better

    Quite (out)dated perspectives at times. Pletka seems lovely, but I’m not convinced the podcast format plays to her strengths. I’m sorry to say she can be a bit repetitive at times, making the same point ten different ways, which can be grating; Marc seems much better attuned to the changing times, more contemporary.

    AEI is pretty pedestrian as a think-tank, and perhaps this is about the most one could realistically hope for. Overall, a little disappointing if I’m honest, but I will keep tuning ... more

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    Bibliophenia
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • You must listen to this podcast

    I think of all the podcasts I listento each week, this is my favorite and I look forward to it. You need to listen to it if you wanna know more about the Middle East I would hope that in the future they would focus more on China. I think China is our main adversary.

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    5
    Scholomo ben Yisrael
    United States4 months ago
  • Iran war - 3/19/26

    Great common sense podcast. Go baby go.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Geoplanter
    United States7 months ago
  • Unfollowing b/c Pletka is Awful

    Marc is fantastic and the only reason I listened to this show at all is because of him, but I am unsubscribing. Pletka is pretentious and utterly off putting. She even thinks hard-working taxpayers should pay for NPR. Put a decent person in her place and I will subscribe again.

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    Marines of 75
    United States8 months ago
  • Very informing

    Great guest today with insight on Venezuela and foreign policy in general . Guests such as this will keep you in the rotation, despite Pletka’s brain dead anti Trump mewlings

    Apple Podcasts
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    JWtwobeagles1
    Canada10 months ago

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WTH: Will AI End Humanity? Chris Miller Explains.
Q: Can you help our listeners weigh these things? Because honestly, it is hard.
Miller explains that AI is designed to act with some autonomy, so developers need to make systems creative and effective while keeping them within intended parameters. Perfect control is unlikely, but careful design and safeguards can make AI beneficial overall.
WTH: Will AI End Humanity? Chris Miller Explains.
Q: Is AI going to destroy humanity in the next 10 years? Or is the bigger threat, I hold at least, but tell me if I'm wrong, the bigger threat to humanity is that we lose the AI arms race with China?
Miller says AI creates genuine risks, including hacking and dangerous biological applications, but catastrophic outcomes would require severe mishandling. He argues that potential benefits in areas such as medicine and biosecurity also matter, and that the United States should compete effectively with China.
WTH Is China Spying Through LinkedIn? With Luke Jacobus.
Q: Are there AI defenses against this kind of phishing that can be deployed, and how do we do that?
Jacobus points to AI tools that flag scam messages and says similar models could identify espionage recruitment attempts. He recommends information sharing among AI developers, platforms, law enforcement, and counterintelligence authorities, alongside timely warnings to users.
WTH Is China Spying Through LinkedIn? With Luke Jacobus.
Q: Tell us what you found and why it's so dangerous.
Jacobus says LinkedIn-based recruitment has been reported for more than a decade, with Chinese intelligence agents targeting people who have sensitive or classified access. AI, fake consultancy websites, impersonation, and other tools have made the campaign more scalable and sophisticated.
WTH: Jason Miyares on Five Easy Ways to Wreck a State.
Q: Can you walk us through the five steps?
Miayar es outlines a framework of policy moves in Virginia that he describes as the five steps leading to a shift away from the Virginia Renaissance toward more left-leaning governance, including tax increases, expanded regulations, energy policy changes, and immigration enforcement shifts.

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This show hosts sharp conversations on foreign policy, defense, and global security, anchored by two AEI insiders who push for rigorous analysis and accountability. Episodes mix interviews with policymakers and subject-matter experts—ranging from military strategists and constitutional scholars to think-tank researchers—with the hosts' brisk, sometimes pointed, banter. Listeners can expect deep dives into Iran, Ukraine, the Middle East, and U.S. alliance dynamics, plus policy implications, sanctions debates, and governance questions, all grounded in current events and historical context. A notable strength is the ability to pair high-level expertise with practical, real-world implications for policymakers, professionals, and informed skepti... more

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