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We Shouldn't Be Friends

Hannah Anderson and Nick Carroll
Surfing
Surf Culture
Bondi Beach
Surf Media
Professional Surfing
Surfboards
World Surf League
WSL Finals
Surf Industry
Social Media
Authentic Brands Group
Climate Change
Gold Coast
Personal Stories In Surfing
Community
Quicksilver
Billabong
Cloudbreak
Female Representation In Surfing
Localism In Surf Culture

Tales from a world where everyone surfs. Nick’s a bald headed Boomer in recovery from surf rage. Hannah’s a blonde Millennial with a surfboard addiction. It’s like we’re from different planets! We really should not be friends. But this is 2026, and anything is possible, in and out of the surf. Here’s our playful, quizzical and highly informed look at modern surf culture in all its watery magnifice... more

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It’s one thing watching a surf movie, or any movie really. It’s quite another thing to make one. “Now Days”, the recent release via Red Bull’s highly skilled and solidly funded media team, is a classic example. It come across as clean, sharp and clev... more

What’s a “designer?” Can a designer even tell you? Trent Mitchell is a highly gifted photographer and graphic artist who’s well into one of the most interesting career arcs of his generation. If you’ve seen his book “Australian Lustre” you’ll already... more

What happens when you sell a business? Everything changes, that’s what happens. Which means very interesting times ahead for all the people involved in the amazing, entertaining, possibly confusing yet all round brilliant circus you just watched go d... more

Talking for a living isn’t the cakewalk people assume. This is especially true in sport. Even if you have something to say, it can be spun by circumstance — maybe you don’t mesh with the commentary team, maybe nerves mess up your message, maybe your ... more

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Recent Guests

Trent Mitchell
Art director, Surfing World
Surfing World
Episode: SEEING THINGS DIFFERENTLY, WITH TRENT MITCHELL
Felicity Palmateer
Professional surfer and media figure
Surfing World / surfing media
Episode: IN THE WARM SEAT: FELICITY PALMATEER
Pam Burridge
Former world champion surfer
Surfing Australia / Former World Champion
Episode: WHEN SURFING MAKES PEOPLE CRY: PAM BURRIDGE
Luke Cederman
Owner, operator, and funny man behind Raglan Surf Report
Episode: RAGLAN SURF REPORT: THE FUNNIEST MAN IN THE GAME
Ryan Scanlon
Founder of Need Essentials
Need Essentials
Episode: THE BRAND MACHINE: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SURF INDUSTRY?
Josh Kerr
Professional surfer and entrepreneur
Episode: THE BRAND MACHINE: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SURF INDUSTRY?
Mark Healey
Professional surfer and big wave rider from Oahu.
Independent surfer
Episode: “BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT”: MARK HEALEY AND THE MYSTERY OF OAHU’S NORTH SHORE
Yago Dora
Current men's world surfing champion from Brazil
Professional Surfer
Episode: THE ACTUAL WORLD CHAMPION: YAGO DORA’S VERY GRACEFUL LIFE
Keala Kennelly
Professional surfer and DJ known for challenging gender norms in competitive surfing
Episode: ONE OF A KIND: KEALA KENNELLY’S LIFE AHEAD OF THE CURVE

Hosts

Nick
Host with a long-running engagement in surf culture and media.
Hannah
Co-host with focus on surf culture, media insight, and female representation in surfing.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 36 ratings
  • Excellent podcast.

    Interesting interview with Christian Bessera. Really enjoying this podcast with the world’s best known surf writer and Pulitzer Prize winner Nick Carroll and Hannah a journalist and awesome adventure sports photographer.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cate518
    Australiaa year ago
  • Anything with Nick Carroll is gold

    Anything with Nick Carroll is gold. I loved that he famously predicted that Stephanie Gilmore would NEVER win an 8th world title…and a few days later, Steph proved Nick absolutely wrong while making history to became the GOAT of women’s surfing by winning her 8th world title…thank you Nick for putting a little extra fire in Steph’s belly as that has to be one of the greatest days in surfing history as Steph went undefeated at the WSL finals in an absolute marathonic run of win after win to take ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Bryan McDonald
    United Statesa year ago

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Episodes clearly resonate with surfers and industry insiders who crave authenticity and deep dives into surf culture.
Content blends insider knowledge with entertaining banter.
Strong host dynamic and thoughtful guests make for engaging listening.

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THE BRAND MACHINE: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SURF INDUSTRY?
Q: How do you manage growth in your company?
Ryan emphasizes that for him, growth is not about wealth, but about enjoying the design process and ensuring that the product remains of good quality, while people come before profit.
THE BRAND MACHINE: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SURF INDUSTRY?
Q: How do you start a company like Need nowadays?
For Ryan, starting a company was a natural progression due to the shifts in the surf industry, wanting to create good products that are trusted without the baggage of previous brands.
RAGLAN SURF REPORT: THE FUNNIEST MAN IN THE GAME
Q: Did you grow up there at Raglan? Or did you move there later after you'd started surfing?
Luke confirms he grew up in Raglan and started surfing there, identifying as a local despite moving from Auckland at age seven.
RAGLAN SURF REPORT: THE FUNNIEST MAN IN THE GAME
Q: Do you consider yourself an influencer, Luke?
Luke expresses his disdain for the term 'influencer' and clarifies that he sees himself as a surfer creating entertaining videos, not fitting the typical influencer mold.
“BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT”: MARK HEALEY AND THE MYSTERY OF OAHU’S NORTH SHORE
Q: Mark, how do you navigate the prowess of modern surfing and the competitive landscape?
I think much of today's surfing demands adaptability and familiarity with the local culture and pecking order.

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A lively, opinionated show about modern surf culture, with a focus on competition formats, industry shifts, personalities, and the evolving landscape of surfing. Episodes blend heat-by-heat analysis, candid banter, and insider color from the surf world, often anchored by two hosts whose dynamic chemistry drives playful debates as they riff on rankings, championship formats, and the people shaping the sport. Guests span top surfers, industry voices, and cultural commentators, offering a mix of technical insight, personal storytelling, and behind-the-scenes context that helps listeners understand how surf culture intersects with broader social changes. Noteworthy is the show's willingness to tackle controversial topics (Olympic qualification,... more

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2. Felicity Palmateer
3. Pam Burridge
4. Luke Cederman
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6. Josh Kerr
7. Mark Healey
8. Yago Dora

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