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We Shouldn't Be Friends

Hannah Anderson and Nick Carroll
Surfing
Surf Culture
Bondi Beach
Surf Media
Professional Surfing
Surfboards
World Surf League
WSL Finals
Surf Industry
Social Media
Authentic Brands Group
Climate Change
Gold Coast
Personal Stories In Surfing
Community
Quicksilver
Billabong
Cloudbreak
Female Representation In Surfing
Localism In Surf Culture

Tales from a world where everyone surfs. Nick’s a bald headed Boomer in recovery from surf rage. Hannah’s a blonde Millennial with a surfboard addiction. It’s like we’re from different planets! We really should not be friends. But this is 2026, and anything is possible, in and out of the surf. Here’s our playful, quizzical and highly informed look at modern surf culture in all its watery magnifice... more

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Surf films, even quite short ones, are not simple things. Especially if you want them to actually be interesting. Dav Fox is one of the finer cinematographers in the game, yet Dav takes it a few steps further, into the realm of story. The Illusion Of... more

This year’s been a deeply sketchy one for many residents of the Hawaiian islands. The warming eastern Pacific has triggered numerous hurricanes near Mexico and sent a number of them skittering toward the islands. Cue gale force winds, floods, and rep... more

San Clemente, California, has two town centres. The first and most commonly known is a shop-lined street leading down to the pier. The second is a slightly tangled old industrial area not far from the railroad — the dusty home of some of the world’s ... more

Sometimes things happen. Sometimes they just blow up. This week pretty much the whole sporting world — including surfing — was blown up by an ad for an American sports prediction site featuring one of its key investors, the actress Sydney Sweeney, nu... more

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Recent Guests

Rochelle Ballard
Professional surfer and mentor, featured guest
Surfer and mentor
Episode: SHE IS THE HURRICANE: ROCHELLE BALLARD
Matt Biolos
Surfboard shaper and founder of Mayhem/ Lost
Mayhem/ Lost
Episode: SHAPING FOR THE GODS, WITH MATT BIOLOS
Rebecca Olive
Expert on female sport and surfing, guest for discussion
Academic/Researcher (specializes in women's sport and surfing)
Episode: JUST SPORT?? UNTANGLING SWEENEY, WITH REBECCA OLIVE
Matt Grainger
Founder/coach at Surfers Gym Cromer
Surfers Gym Cromer
Episode: Just One Big Turn, with supercoach Matt Grainger
Tom Carroll
Professional surfer
Australian surfing legend
Episode: THE SILVER GOBLIN: TOM CARROLL, A DECADE ON FROM DORIAN
Shane Dorian
celebrated surfer and big-wave rider
Professional surfer, longevity advocate
Episode: THE AGEING DILEMMA, WITH SHANE DORIAN
Jodie Nelson
Film creator and executive producer behind Nowadays
Nowadays/Red Bull film project
Episode: GETTING IT DONE, WITH “NOW DAYS” CREATOR JODIE NELSON
Trent Mitchell
Art director, Surfing World
Surfing World
Episode: SEEING THINGS DIFFERENTLY, WITH TRENT MITCHELL
Felicity Palmateer
Professional surfer and media figure
Surfing World / surfing media
Episode: IN THE WARM SEAT: FELICITY PALMATEER

Hosts

Hannah
Co-host who engages with guests and guides discussions, part of a two-host dynamic
Nick
Host of the show guiding conversations with guests and guests' context in surf culture

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 46 ratings
  • Excellent podcast.

    Hannah did an excellent analysis of Sydney Sweeney’s ad. How is sexualising women’s sport and turning it into a source of income still happening in 2026?

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LiteratureD
    Australiaa month ago
  • Excellent podcast.

    Interesting interview with Christian Bessera. Really enjoying this podcast with the world’s best known surf writer and Pulitzer Prize winner Nick Carroll and Hannah a journalist and awesome adventure sports photographer.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cate518
    Australiaa year ago
  • Anything with Nick Carroll is gold

    Anything with Nick Carroll is gold. I loved that he famously predicted that Stephanie Gilmore would NEVER win an 8th world title…and a few days later, Steph proved Nick absolutely wrong while making history to became the GOAT of women’s surfing by winning her 8th world title…thank you Nick for putting a little extra fire in Steph’s belly as that has to be one of the greatest days in surfing history as Steph went undefeated at the WSL finals in an absolute marathonic run of win after win to take ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Bryan McDonald
    United States2 years ago

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The hosts' banter keeps episodes energetic without losing depth.
High guest variety reflects broad surf culture, attracting diverse sponsors.
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SHE IS THE HURRICANE: ROCHELLE BALLARD
Q: What was the impact of Blue Crush on female surfers and the broader surf culture?
Blue Crush helped bring mainstream attention to women's surfing, proving to the industry and audiences that female surfers could carry a film and a story with depth, inspiring a generation and encouraging brands and media to invest in women's surfing.
THE BRAND MACHINE: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SURF INDUSTRY?
Q: How do you manage growth in your company?
Ryan emphasizes that for him, growth is not about wealth, but about enjoying the design process and ensuring that the product remains of good quality, while people come before profit.
THE BRAND MACHINE: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SURF INDUSTRY?
Q: How do you start a company like Need nowadays?
For Ryan, starting a company was a natural progression due to the shifts in the surf industry, wanting to create good products that are trusted without the baggage of previous brands.
RAGLAN SURF REPORT: THE FUNNIEST MAN IN THE GAME
Q: Did you grow up there at Raglan? Or did you move there later after you'd started surfing?
Luke confirms he grew up in Raglan and started surfing there, identifying as a local despite moving from Auckland at age seven.
RAGLAN SURF REPORT: THE FUNNIEST MAN IN THE GAME
Q: Do you consider yourself an influencer, Luke?
Luke expresses his disdain for the term 'influencer' and clarifies that he sees himself as a surfer creating entertaining videos, not fitting the typical influencer mold.

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Two hosts explore modern surf culture through interviews, on-location reporting, and sharp analysis of industry trends. Episodes commonly tackle topics like surfing performance, longevity in the sport, media and sponsorship dynamics, inclusivity and women in surfing, and the business side of professional surfing—from governance to broadcast strategies. The show often blends personal storytelling with expert guests, making it a go-to for listeners who want both practical coaching insights and broader cultural conversations within surfing. A notable strength is its ability to mix peer banter with informed critique, producing a lively, candid, and at times provocative take on the sport's present and future.

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1. Rochelle Ballard
2. Matt Biolos
3. Rebecca Olive
4. Matt Grainger
5. Tom Carroll
6. Shane Dorian
7. Jodie Nelson
8. Trent Mitchell

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