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Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon

Sue Gordon & Eric Koepp
China
Cybersecurity
Ukraine
National Security
Venezuela
Agriculture
Tiktok
Russia
Low-Earth Orbit Satellites
Emerging Technologies
Intelligence Community
Armed Conflict
Trump Administration
Artificial Intelligence
AI Action Plan
Microsoft
Taiwan
Commercial Space Industry
AI Influence Operations
Food Security

Welcome to “Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon” — the national security podcast that provides you an elemental understanding of the world as it is, not how you prefer it to be.

Each week, Eric — a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur — sits down with the Honorable Sue Gordon, the nation’s former top career intelligence officer. Together, they break down the h... more

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In this special edition of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric explore the troubling rise of retribution politics in America. Prompted by a Reuters investigation into over 470 individuals and institutions allegedly targeted by the Trump administrat... more

In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric look at the price of trust—starting with an Afghan ally accused of murdering a West Virginia National Guard member near the White House and the administration’s response: freezing asylum and vi... more

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In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric trace how seemingly ordinary deals can reshape American security, starting with a Chinese-linked insurance acquisition that offers a window into the “holy grail” of intelligence—intent. Some fo... more

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In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric break down a new milestone in AI operations: an agentic hack using Claude that orchestrates tools together. They explain what’s actually new about the attack, why intent plus AI scale is the re... more

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Eric Koepp
Co-host, a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur. He provides insights into various discussions with a unique perspective.
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The Honorable Sue Gordon, former top career intelligence officer, providing expert insights into national security issues.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 28 ratings
  • Out of date

    You two are still living in 2015. The internal and external operation and understanding of the USA has undergone a sea change since then. And not for the better

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    bella oo29
    Canada3 months ago
  • Wow

    Sue and Eric are off to a fantastic start. The insights are real and important, delivered in a conversational manner. The chemistry they have and back and forth banter is well ahead of where you’d expect a new podcast. Highly recommend!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hook ‘em 2025
    United States3 months ago
  • Unparalleled Perspective

    Sue Gordon’s insights come from a lifetime of serving her country…serving the office of the president rather than a party is a striking and welcoming lesson. Sue, can you address the importance of diversity from a national intelligence perspective? Sending love.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    WannabeSue
    United States4 months ago
  • Sue Gordon is the BEST

    So knowledgeable and so easy to listen to!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    RoMo46
    United States4 months ago
  • A master class in security

    Great information for anyone who who is concerned about local and national security matters. The AI portion was a bit daunting. I look forward to Sue and Eric going deeper on the cyber and AI basics, security and implications . I think the School House Rock on these topics sounds amazing, particularly for someone who grew up on SCH. The discussion on Ukraine and the USA’s reputation, and the war of Russian aggression in general, was insightful. Particularly the benefits to the USA of doing what... more

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    Hey Mama Warrior
    United States4 months ago

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Ep. 15 Speed Is the Advantage: Army Acquisitions, the Asia Trip, & Argentina ROI
Q: How do we measure success here?
We should be monitoring the pressure we put on Russia and how it impacts their war efforts, as well as watching for how the various sanctions evolve and are enforced.
Ep. 11 Digital Assets 101: Stablecoins to Sovereign Wealth — with Hon. Shannon Corless
Q: What concerns do you have about the framework for TikTok's operations in the US?
While it's good there will be a U.S. entity overseeing operations, the handling of the algorithm raises uncertainties regarding security and influence.
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Q: What should Americans understand about investing in digital assets?
Investing in digital assets requires knowledge of their volatility; stablecoins could be a safer choice compared to riskier cryptocurrencies.
Ep. 11 Digital Assets 101: Stablecoins to Sovereign Wealth — with Hon. Shannon Corless
Q: How do you feel about the outlook for digital currencies now compared to ten years ago?
Initially seen as a passing novelty, digital assets are now recognized as essential to innovation and U.S. economic leadership.

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