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Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon

Sue Gordon & Eric Koepp
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Welcome to “Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon” — the national security podcast that provides you an elemental understanding of the world as it is, not how you prefer it to be.

Each week, Eric — a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur — sits down with the Honorable Sue Gordon, the nation’s former top career intelligence officer. Together, they break down the h... more

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In this episode, Sue and Eric kick off the year with a look at geopolitical hotspots and assess that, in aggregate, US actions reveal the National Security Strategy for what it is—and isn’t.

Assessing the Trump strategy as one of power, resources, a... more

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In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric discuss the future of space. Low Earth orbit is becoming a “house of cards,” where mega-constellations and frequent close passes shrink the margin for error and raise the risk of a cascading de... more

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In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric discuss Ukraine’s latest turn: President Zelensky takes his pitch for peace to Mar-a-Lago as Russia sustains heavy strikes. They unpack what would actually signal progress: whether battlefield ... more

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In this special edition of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric examine public health policy as national security. Beginning with HHS’s termination of pediatric health grants, they map the downstream consequences of politicized funding: diminished i... more

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Eric Koepp
Co-host, a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur. He provides insights into various discussions with a unique perspective.
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The Honorable Sue Gordon, former top career intelligence officer, providing expert insights into national security issues.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 28 ratings
  • Out of date

    You two are still living in 2015. The internal and external operation and understanding of the USA has undergone a sea change since then. And not for the better

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    bella oo29
    Canada4 months ago
  • Wow

    Sue and Eric are off to a fantastic start. The insights are real and important, delivered in a conversational manner. The chemistry they have and back and forth banter is well ahead of where you’d expect a new podcast. Highly recommend!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hook ‘em 2025
    United States5 months ago
  • Unparalleled Perspective

    Sue Gordon’s insights come from a lifetime of serving her country…serving the office of the president rather than a party is a striking and welcoming lesson. Sue, can you address the importance of diversity from a national intelligence perspective? Sending love.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    WannabeSue
    United States5 months ago
  • Sue Gordon is the BEST

    So knowledgeable and so easy to listen to!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    RoMo46
    United States5 months ago
  • A master class in security

    Great information for anyone who who is concerned about local and national security matters. The AI portion was a bit daunting. I look forward to Sue and Eric going deeper on the cyber and AI basics, security and implications . I think the School House Rock on these topics sounds amazing, particularly for someone who grew up on SCH. The discussion on Ukraine and the USA’s reputation, and the war of Russian aggression in general, was insightful. Particularly the benefits to the USA of doing what... more

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    United States6 months ago

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Ep. 23 Ukraine, the NDAA, and Fusion Hype — and Why We Track Santa
Q: What are your initial thoughts on the strategic fit of Trump Media's merger with TAE Technologies?
Sue critiques the merger as lacking real strategic synergy, characterizing it as performative rather than genuinely impactful for advancing fusion energy.
Ep. 23 Ukraine, the NDAA, and Fusion Hype — and Why We Track Santa
Q: What are your thoughts on the NDAA getting passed and some of these highlights?
Sue expresses her relief at the NDAA passing but highlights concerns regarding its focus on big-picture strategies over people-centric policies.
Ep. 23 Ukraine, the NDAA, and Fusion Hype — and Why We Track Santa
Q: What do you think about the financing coming from Europe and the conflicting reports about Putin's aims?
Sue emphasizes that while aspirations for peace are present, the reality on the ground shows significant challenges, with Ukraine's survival requiring continued support amidst European divisions.
Ep. 15 Speed Is the Advantage: Army Acquisitions, the Asia Trip, & Argentina ROI
Q: What do you think about the proposed $40 billion aid to Argentina?
I'm skeptical of its return on investment and unsure how effective it will be given Argentina's ongoing economic struggles.
Ep. 15 Speed Is the Advantage: Army Acquisitions, the Asia Trip, & Argentina ROI
Q: How do we measure success here?
We should be monitoring the pressure we put on Russia and how it impacts their war efforts, as well as watching for how the various sanctions evolve and are enforced.

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