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Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon

Sue Gordon & Eric Koepp
China
Ukraine
National Security
Cybersecurity
Russia
Iran
Artificial Intelligence
Trump Administration
Retribution Politics
Democracy
Venezuela
Free Speech
Election Security
Election Integrity
Trust
Supreme Court
Government Intimidation
Dissent
Trust In Government
Mail-In Voting

Welcome to “Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon” — the national security podcast that provides you an elemental understanding of the world as it is, not how you prefer it to be.

Each week, Eric — a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur — sits down with the Honorable Sue Gordon, the nation’s former top career intelligence officer. Together, they break down the h... more

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For 42 episodes, Understandable Insights has tracked what is changing in the world around us — the great rewiring, managed conflict, institutional friction, and the growing gap between capacity and outcome.

This week, Sue and Eric shift from what is... more

In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue returns from the McCain Institute’s Sedona Forum — the annual gathering of U.S. and world leaders— with a clear takeaway. From Ukraine to China to Iran, the world’s major conflicts are no longer being r... more

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In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric discuss how the most consequential security threats in 2026 don’t look like attacks — they look like normal activity and the threat is already inside the system.

From a $400 Superbox sold at B... more

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This week on Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric break down the federal budget. Most federal spending is not debated each year, it runs automatically through programs like Social Security, Medicare, and interest on the debt. That leaves a shrinking... more

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Recent Guests

Shannon Corless
Former career intelligence officer with experience in national security and economics.
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Beth Ford
CEO and President of Land O'Lakes
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Episode: Ep. 08 Cyber to Cornfields: Community and Trust in the Heartland

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Eric
Host of the show, former Marine, entrepreneur; guides discussions on headlines with the aim of turning raw information into actionable intelligence.
Sue Gordon
Honorable, former top career intelligence officer; brings decades of national security experience and public service to the discussion.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 38 ratings
  • Perfect name of podcast.

    Love this program! Karin from 🇨🇦!

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Kathe’s daughter
    Canada2 months ago
  • Out of date

    You two are still living in 2015. The internal and external operation and understanding of the USA has undergone a sea change since then. And not for the better

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    bella oo29
    Canada8 months ago
  • Wow

    Sue and Eric are off to a fantastic start. The insights are real and important, delivered in a conversational manner. The chemistry they have and back and forth banter is well ahead of where you’d expect a new podcast. Highly recommend!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hook ‘em 2025
    United States9 months ago
  • Unparalleled Perspective

    Sue Gordon’s insights come from a lifetime of serving her country…serving the office of the president rather than a party is a striking and welcoming lesson. Sue, can you address the importance of diversity from a national intelligence perspective? Sending love.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    WannabeSue
    United States9 months ago
  • Sue Gordon is the BEST

    So knowledgeable and so easy to listen to!

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    5
    RoMo46
    United States9 months ago

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Fans praise Sue Gordon's expertise and ability to translate issues into accessible explanations.
Feedback notes the show offers a refreshing, nonpartisan lens on AI, governance, and national security.
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Insights come across as deeply informed by public service experience and real-world implications.
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Ep. 30 Trust Can't Be Borrowed: When Authority is Misapplied, It Doesn’t Reassure
Q: Can you tell us a little bit more about the responsibilities of the ODNI?
The Director of National Intelligence has zero domestic authorities, all authorities are foreign.
Ep. 27 Democracy Under Stress: Elections as Infrastructure, Conditional Acceptance, & Human Strength
Q: What questions are you asking of your candidates as you go to the booth in November?
Sue suggests asking candidates if they are prepared to accept the results of the election, even if they lose, asserting that the legitimacy of elections is paramount.
Ep. 27 Democracy Under Stress: Elections as Infrastructure, Conditional Acceptance, & Human Strength
Q: How do we help the people?
Sue emphasizes the importance of recognizing the individuals serving in the electoral system and the need for leadership that calms and instills confidence in the electoral process.
Ep. 27 Democracy Under Stress: Elections as Infrastructure, Conditional Acceptance, & Human Strength
Q: What do you think about this lady being in this position?
Sue comments on the intellectual dishonesty of appointing someone to oversee election integrity without a genuine commitment to fairness, reflecting a disturbing trend in election administration.
Ep. 27 Democracy Under Stress: Elections as Infrastructure, Conditional Acceptance, & Human Strength
Q: What do you think about this reduction in funding and the overall threats to the infrastructure?
Sue expresses concern about the diminished federal guidance and support, highlighting the vulnerability this introduces, especially as states prepare for upcoming elections.

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Two seasoned hosts break down headlines through the lens of national security, governance, and technology. Episodes repeatedly explore how AI, cybersecurity, elections, and international dynamics shape policy, trust in institutions, and everyday civic life. The duo emphasizes clear reasoning, practical implications for citizens and leaders, and how private sector tools intersect with public policy. A standout is the practical framing for business and government audiences, with a knack for turning complex topics into actionable takeaways and a steady emphasis on accountability and durable governance.

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