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The Illegal News with Sarah Longwell

The Bulwark
Donald Trump
Supreme Court
Trump Administration
Republican Party
Department Of Justice
Birthright Citizenship
E. Jean Carroll
Kamala Harris
Executive Power
January 6th Insurrection
Elon Musk
Election Interference
National Guard
Jack Smith
Congress
Hush Money Case
Doge
National Security
Perkins Coie
Paul Weiss

“The Illegal News” is where law meets politics. Each week, Bulwark publisher Sarah Longwell (not a lawyer) sits down with a legal expert to unpack how the latest court filings, rulings, and procedural twists and turns of the Trump era are shaping American democracy. These are conversations about justice without the jargon, giving you context for the biggest developments and surfacing the legal (an... more

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Sarah Longwell and Andrew Weissmann explain the explosive Kimberly Guilfoyle corruption allegations, including the $100,000 Amex payment, incriminating text messages, and why Trump might be reluctant to turn against her. Plus, Weissmann explains why ... more

Sarah Longwell and Andrew Weissmann discuss Jack Smith’s latest Senate testimony, including the questions Republicans didn’t ask about the actual cases against Trump and the Eric Schmitt gotcha that blew up in spectacular fashion. They also dig into ... more

Sarah Longwell and Andrew Weissmann cover Trump’s escalating war with the press, from his White House ban on CNN, MS NOW, and Politico to the growing consolidation of major media companies. They also debate Zohran Mamdani’s approach to Trump, unpack ... more

JVL is joined by Alex Wagner to trace how four conservative power brokers built the legal machine that would reshape the Supreme Court decades later, and how that project helped create the politics we’re living with today. Plus, they break down Samue... more

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Recent Guests

Alex Wagner
Author of The Steal; host of Runaway Country on Crooked Media
Crooked Media; author
Episode: S2 Ep177: Alex Wagner NUKES Alito’s Defense of the Trump Election Power Grab
George Conway
Former campaign adviser and legal commentator on the Trump era
Independent/Attorney (as discussed on show)
Episode: S2 Ep169: George Conway Is Back—and Trump Gave Him PLENTY to Work With
Steve Vladeck
Supreme Court expert, Georgetown Law professor
Georgetown Law
Episode: S2 Ep166: MAGA is Furious at Amy Coney Barrett (w/ Steve Vladeck)
Mary McCord
Former prosecutor in the DC US Attorney's Office, oversaw the National Security Division at DOJ; Georgetown University professor; co-hosts Main Justice (MSNOW)
Georgetown University; Main Justice
Episode: S2 Ep161: Judge Nukes Trump DOJ’s “Vindictive” Prosecution (w/ Mary McCord) | Illegal News
Ben Wittes
Legal analyst and co-host, frequent commentator on law and governance
Lawfare/Brookings Institution
Episode: S2 Ep159: Trump Built a System That Pays People to Break the Law (w/ Ben Wittes)
Kate Shaw
Professor of Law at the University of Pennsylvania Law School; co-host of Strict Scrutiny
University of Pennsylvania Law School
Episode: S2 Ep157: SCOTUS Profoundly Changed Elections—Mid-Vote! (w/ Kate Shaw)
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Episode: S2 Ep157: SCOTUS Profoundly Changed Elections—Mid-Vote! (w/ Kate Shaw)
Elliot Williams
CNN legal analyst, author of Five Bullets, lawyer
CNN/The Bulwark
Episode: S2 Ep153: Reporters Now Need ESCORTS to Do Their Jobs at the Pentagon (w/ Elliot Williams)
Andrew Weissmann
Former federal prosecutor, legal expert, author of Liar's Kingdom
Book author
Episode: S2 Ep149: Andrew Weissmann: This is Why America’s Institutions Are Failing

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Sarah Longwell
Host of The Illegal News

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 4.4k ratings
  • Great podcast but….

    JVL is in for Sarah. He kept interrupting Alex Wagner and talking over her. Annoying.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KoMo0420
    United States18 days ago
  • Better

    Andrew is great but there are just too many tangents. Either edit more or stay on message. And don’t let George back on that guy cannot express anything concisely. You need to respect people’s time and be articulate to be on a podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    nbsfmc
    United States19 days ago
  • a bit surface

    The host appears to be using a similar formula as her previous podcast with George Conway — get a big media-brand name and ask him questions. I like both Conway and Andrew Weissmann and enjoy them on various podcasts. Unfortunately, on this one the name brand doesn’t make up for Longwell’s (minimal) amount of legal knowhow. I get she has her hands full, so I may have more time to learn about the law and follow current legal developments. But if that’s the case, other than featuring good-get gues... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Elisabeth-Ann
    United Statesa month ago
  • Most recent episode

    OMG! Listening to you two go on and on stroking each other’s ego at the beginning was unbearable! I wanted to hear substance and you took waaay too long to get there. I stopped listening. Do better!

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Aurelius66
    United States2 months ago
  • Great podcast

    Sarah is great with either George C. or Andrew W. Excellent legal and political news!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    IndependentMitch
    United States2 months ago

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Listeners praise the strong legal analysis and the engaging banter between hosts and guests.
Criticism often centers on long-form digressions and occasional lack of brevity in legal discussions.
Fans appreciate the expert guests and clear explanations of complex court matters.

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#47
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#138
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#182
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#42
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#129
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#147
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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

S2 Ep173: Trump Just Ordered the Government to Delete the Receipts (w/ Andrew Weissmann)
Q: How should Democrats respond to a political environment where facts are contested and misinformation runs rampant?
Weissmann argues for staying anchored to verifiable facts while using narrative discipline and repetition to communicate about corruption, ensuring messages are clear and traceable, and addressing voters with empathy while maintaining accountability.
S2 Ep173: Trump Just Ordered the Government to Delete the Receipts (w/ Andrew Weissmann)
Q: What happens next with the Fauci-related investigations and potential charges?
The guests suggest that given two cooperators already involved and no current charges against Fauci, it is unlikely he will be charged unless new, compelling evidence emerges, and political calculations will influence how aggressively casework progresses.
S2 Ep166: MAGA is Furious at Amy Coney Barrett (w/ Steve Vladeck)
Q: Steve, maybe you can just give us a quick background again on, like, why did the president try, like, why did he fire or try to fire these people that led to these Supreme Court cases?
The president claimed cause for firing some independent-agency commissioners with four-cause removal protections, arguing for accountability, while the court ruled that, generally, removal protections are unconstitutional except for the Fed, where the court found special considerations. This split created a framework where most agencies can be removed for cause, but the Fed remains protected, at least for now.
S2 Ep167: Trump's Own Judge Torched DOJ's Insane Election Subpoena (w/ Andrew Weissmann)
Q: Can you walk me through why you think the Epstein files may never be released?
Weissmann outlines that the combination of standing, the legality of the specific act used, and the strategic timing of disclosures and court decisions all contribute to uncertainty; while a judge could side with release, there are multiple potential appellate hurdles and procedural delays that may keep some documents confidential for longer.
S2 Ep165: The Reflecting Pool is a Symbol of Trump’s Failure (w/ Andrew Weissmann)
Q: Is this PG or is this not PG?
Yes, it's not PG; they are discussing legal and political topics, so expect explicit language and strong opinions rather than kid-friendly content.

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A sharp, policy-forward discussion that blends legal analysis with political commentary, focusing on high-profile court actions, regulatory changes, and the role of the judiciary in the Trump era. Episodes routinely unpack court filings, Supreme Court decisions, and procedural nuances, while translating complex legal concepts into practical context for listeners who want to understand how legal moves shape democracy. The show's strength lies in pairing a seasoned host with top legal experts to surface insights, critique legal strategies, and occasionally offer behind-the-scenes storytelling from high-stakes cases. Noteworthy elements include candid debates about executive power, accountability, and the intersection of law and media strategy... more

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