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The Illegal News with Sarah Longwell

The Bulwark
Donald Trump
E. Jean Carroll
Supreme Court
January 6 Insurrection
Presidential Immunity
Stormy Daniels
Trump Organization
14th Amendment
Insurrection
Election Interference
Jack Smith
Georgia
Trump
Society For the Rule Of Law
Hush Money Case
Georgia Election Interference Case
Hush Money Payments
Lying and Morality In Politics
Trump Legal Challenges
Espionage Act

“The Illegal News” is where law meets politics. Each week, Bulwark publisher Sarah Longwell (not a lawyer) sits down with a legal expert to unpack how the latest court filings, rulings, and procedural twists and turns of the Trump era are shaping American democracy. These are conversations about justice without the jargon, giving you context for the biggest developments and surfacing the legal (an... more

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Andrew Weissmann joins Sarah Longwell to explain Trump’s failed attempt to target Fed Chair Jerome Powell—and why a judge shut it down as harassment. They also discuss the Trump admin's bizarre border strategy that’s collapsing in court, as DOJ lawye... more

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Sarah Longwell and Andrew Weissmann discuss a chaotic week for the rule of law, from the DOJ bizarrely flip-flopping on defending Trump’s executive orders targeting law firms, to a Trump-appointed judge finding evidence of racial profiling in ICE sto... more

Sarah Longwell talks with former federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann about his new book: "Liar’s Kingdom"

They discuss how Donald Trump exposed weaknesses in American institutions, why misinformation has become so central to modern politics, and wha... more

Sarah Longwell talks with Just Security’s Tess Bridgeman about whether the Iran war is legal under the Constitution, the War Powers Resolution, and international law. They discuss how presidents have stretched their authority for decades, why Congres... more

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Recent Guests

Tess Bridgeman
Co-editor and Chief of Just Security, former White House adviser
Just Security
Episode: S2 Ep148: Is This War Legal? (w/ Tess Bridgeman)
Elliot Williams
CNN legal analyst and author of Five Bullets
CNN
Episode: S2 Ep147: Trump’s Face on DOJ Is a Big Deal—Here’s Why (w/ Elliot Williams)
Carol Leonnig
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, co-author of the book "Injustice"
The Washington Post
Episode: S2 Ep133: How the DOJ Turned Its Easiest Case Into Trump’s Escape Hatch
Aaron Davis
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, co-author of the book "Injustice"
The Washington Post
Episode: S2 Ep133: How the DOJ Turned Its Easiest Case Into Trump’s Escape Hatch
Steve Vladeck
Professor of law at Georgetown and legal expert
Georgetown Law
Episode: S2 Ep132: Trump’s DOJ Lost to a Hoagie (w/ Sam Stein & Steve Vladeck)
Andrew Weissmann
Former federal prosecutor and chief of the criminal fraud section at the DOJ, lead prosecutor in the Mueller investigation.
Episode: S2 Ep122: Grand Juries Are Resisting Trump’s Show Trials (w/ Andrew Weissmann)
Leah Litman
Law professor at the University of Michigan Law School, co-host of the Strict Scrutiny Podcast, and author of 'Lawless.'
University of Michigan Law School
Episode: S2 Ep117: Why The Supreme Court Is Broken (w/ Leah Litman)
Natasha Stoyanoff
Alleged victim of Donald Trump who shared her story in the episode.
Episode: Trump Is a Serial PREDATOR. It’s Time To Talk About It.
Jessica Leeds
Alleged victim of Donald Trump who shared her story in the episode.
Episode: Trump Is a Serial PREDATOR. It’s Time To Talk About It.

Host

Sarah Longwell
Host of The Illegal News; Publisher of The Bulwark

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 4.3k ratings
  • I do not miss an episode

    Just when I was lamenting George Conway leaving the show AW shows up as a guest. Thought provoking and essential for anyone trying to stay connected with this nightmare.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Eviews
    United States4 days ago
  • Illegal

    Thank you for saying Il-legal and not e-legal.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    VAgrrl
    United States4 days ago
  • Excellent

    Love the pod generally, and so happy you didn’t cut the audio book discussion with Andrew Weissmann. It was hilarious.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jeanienyc
    United States7 days ago
  • Andrew!

    Thank you for bringing Andrew Weissmann on the show. So much past experience & so enjoyable to listen to him.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Need More Heathers
    United States7 days ago
  • Two peas in a pod!

    LOVE your shows with Andrew W!! So fun as well as informative. Thank you!!🙏🏼

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jascook
    United States7 days ago

Listeners Say

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Confused Attorney regarding the Epstein case, discusses DOJ and accountability issues,5/5
Co-hosts, great dynamic and expertise; some feedback on vocal style,4/5
Too irritated to not comment, strong critiques but balanced with expert guests,4/5
I gotta say...,It's better without Kellyanne's husband.,2/5
Keep Andrew, W has great insight. His experience shines thru,5/5

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#143
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Apple Podcasts
#80
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Apple Podcasts
#216
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#145
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#93
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#242
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

S2 Ep148: Is This War Legal? (w/ Tess Bridgeman)
Q: Is this war legal or illegal that we are currently waging?
It is illegal under both domestic and international law, with the international law framing labeling it a flagrant violation of the UN Charter and self-defense justifications not meeting the threshold.
S2 Ep147: Trump’s Face on DOJ Is a Big Deal—Here’s Why (w/ Elliot Williams)
Q: Is there a reason he never tried to do this out of the gate versus the illegal way?
Yes, there is likely a lack of political and congressional support; tariffs are taxes, and achieving bipartisan buy-in would be difficult, so the administration opted for more aggressive approaches that risk court challenges.
S2 Ep147: Trump’s Face on DOJ Is a Big Deal—Here’s Why (w/ Elliot Williams)
Q: So my first question is, how did Trump get around the Supreme Court's decision?
He didn't truly get around it; he used legally bounded avenues like the Trade Act of 1974 that are time-bound and require justification, and the broader path would require congressional authorization. Legal challenges are likely, and the broad, sweeping authority he imagined is not supported by current law.
S2 Ep144: Trump Is Treating Elections Like Crimes (w/ Elliot Williams)
Q: Can Trump actually nationalize elections?
No, the management of elections is explicitly reserved for state and local governments, making Trump's claim legally unsound.
S2 Ep144: Trump Is Treating Elections Like Crimes (w/ Elliot Williams)
Q: Do you think the case against Lemon and Fort will go to trial?
There is a decent chance it gets thrown out due to the ambiguity of their actions as journalists.

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A sharp, law-and-politics oriented discussion show that breaks down court rulings, filings, and procedural twists shaping American democracy during the Trump era. Each episode pairs a host with a legal expert to translate complex legal moves into practical implications for governance, elections, and accountability. Expect clear takeaways on executive power, DOJ actions, and the evolving balance between courts and the presidency, with recurring guests who bring high-level legal analysis to current events. A notable strength is the way accessible explanations are paired with real-world implications for policy, media, and civic participation, making it useful for listeners who want to understand how legal developments influence politics and ev... more

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