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The Next Level

The Bulwark
Donald Trump
Republican Party
Joe Biden
Kamala Harris
Democratic Party
Trump
Jeffrey Epstein
Nikki Haley
Economy
2024 Presidential Election
Ukraine
Supreme Court
The Bulwark
JD Vance
Iran
Elon Musk
Focus Groups
Vladimir Putin
2024 Election
Israel

Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. www.thebulwark.com

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A super-sized Secret this week:

* Sarah and JVL are coming to the legendary 92nd Street Y in New York on September 8. Come and hang out with them in JVL’s back yard! It’s possible he’ll have the championship belt! (Tickets on sale here.)

* JVL... more

The gang is back together, and the U.S. and Iran are back at war...maybe? Tim, Sarah, and JVL discuss the latest in Iran, Donald Trump storming off of Meet the Press, the 'stolen election' freakout in Los Angeles, Todd Blanche's nomination as Attorne... more

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Tim Miller, Sam Stein, and JVL talk about the week's biggest stories: Trump installs a meme stock grifter as acting Director of National Intelligence, the $1.8 billion weaponization slush fund may be dying (or just hibernating), Tina Peters walks fre... more

Full episodes of The Secret Podcast are available to paid members of the Bulwark, on Apple Podcasts, Substack and YouTube.

Sarah and JVL talk about the ongoing meltdown of Trump’s Freedom 250 event; the inappropriateness of putting a UFC cage fight ... more

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Recent Guests

Buckley Carlson
Tucker Carlson's brother
Former TV/media figure
Episode: 1074: Tucker Carlson’s “Regret” Is Just Another Scam
Abdul A. Sayed
Democratic Senate candidate in Michigan
Campaign for Abdul Sayed
Episode: 1071: Secret Podcast: The Podcast Wars
Bill Kristol
Political commentator and editor known for deep-dive political analysis
The Bulwark
Episode: 1067: Secret Podcast: Trump Won’t Stop—Because He Can’t Look Weak
Theo Von
Comedian and podcast host
Episode: 1018: Theo Von is DONE with Sicko ICE “Snuff Film”! Kimmel Says HELL NO! | The Next Level
AB Stoddard
Political analyst and Bulwark colleague
The Bulwark
Episode: The Trial of Donald J. Trump
Dean Phillips
A political candidate who aims to challenge President Biden and bring a bipartisan approach
Episode: Genuine Patriots and Useful Idiots (The Secret Podcast Preview)
Tristan Snell
Author of 'Taking Down Trump, 12 Rules for Prosecuting Donald Trump by Somebody Who Did It Successfully'
Episode: Here's Why Trump is Beatable (with Tristan Snell)
Jake Auchincloss
Congressman from Massachusetts
U.S. House of Representatives
Episode: Democrats Need to Play Hardball with Crazy House Republicans (with Rep. Jake Auchincloss)
David Wallace-Wells
New York Times and New York Magazine journalist, author of The Uninhabitable Earth
New York Times, New York Magazine
Episode: How Long Does the Planet Earth Have? (with David Wallace-Wells)

Hosts

Jonathan V. Last
Host on political commentary discussions; frequently leads and participates in policy and strategy debates.
Tim Miller
Host with strong emphasis on policy critique and political strategy banter.
Sarah Longwell
Co-host/host providing political insight, banter, and focus on campaigns and messaging.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 4.5k ratings
  • Good, could be great

    I’m here for Sarah and Tim. JVL can be tough. No sense of timing. He beats a point to death and often breaks the flow of otherwise excellent discussions. (For the love of all that is holy do not let Sam join / ruin this show, he’s the worst. At least JVL is smart so eventually there is a payoff.)

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    nbsfmc
    United States21 days ago
  • JVL is always right part 54!

    Trump added a new addition to slush fund…no indictments for Family or tax audits either. This is unreal using our tax dollars for this!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Bpbluepill
    United Statesa month ago
  • Subscriber

    It says I’m a subscriber, yet I still hear commercials on the podcasts. Why is that?

    Love you all! Thanks!!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    clareann233
    United Statesa month ago
  • Messaging Messaging Messaging Messaging

    People please try to get Dems to stop saying Trump is not doing anything to lower prices…..It makes him seem disinterested, some innocent bystander, and aloof to the problem……. If I hear one more Dem say this, my head is going to explode.

    When the better and factual message should be Trump’s actions (tariffs and Iran war) are the sole and direct cause for the inflation. In sum, Trump is the main culprit behind the inflation.

    Dems need to get their act together with this message. N.b., Inflat... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Prometheus---
    United Statesa month ago
  • Reviews

    Gotta tell ya. I want to be able to comment on the. Secret pod. And Tim’s shows. All I’ve got to say is Sarah. You’ve got the best laugh in the world! Makes me smile right along with you

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LoriJNY
    United States2 months ago

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Fans note strong emphasis on democracy-focused debate and anti-optimistic political analysis.
Audience values thoughtful critique of both parties and practical politics with clear perspectives.
Some listeners criticize ad density and ad read transitions during episodes.
Listeners praise the hosts' sharp, insightful dialogue and the mix of policy with culture humor.

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1041: Fear the Reaper | The Secret Podcast
Q: What keeps you up at night?
The fact that there is a wholesale consolidation of corporate media.
Where Did the Empathy for Ukraine Go? (with Terrell Starr)
Q: How are people in Ukraine reacting to the political climate in the United States?
People in Ukraine are puzzled and concerned about the political dynamics in the U.S., particularly regarding potential shifts in support for Ukraine due to internal U.S. politics.
Where Did the Empathy for Ukraine Go? (with Terrell Starr)
Q: What is the state of play on the ground in Ukraine from your recent time there?
Despite concerns about U.S. support, there is a strong determination among Ukrainians to continue resisting Russian aggression without thoughts of negotiating peace.
Let's Brace for 2024 Together!
Q: What scares you the most about 2024?
The fear of Trump winning the election, particularly with the possibility of Nikki Haley endorsing him and creating a dangerous precedent for normies.
Democrats Need to Play Hardball with Crazy House Republicans (with Rep. Jake Auchincloss)
Q: What is the Democrats' move as we head to March?
Democrats should not support any continuing resolutions that do not offer clear support for Ukraine.

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High-signal political analysis with brisk banter, focusing on current events, campaigns, elections, and the norms and tactics shaping democratic politics. Episodes frequently dissect redistricting, constitutional questions, consumer/policy drama, and foreign policy with a liberal-democratic framing, while weaving in pop culture and ad reads. Noteworthy is the trio's mix of sharp debate and occasional humor, producing a candid, fast-paced discussion that often challenges conventional political strategy and messaging. The format blends policy depth with accessible culture talk, making it useful for listeners who want thoughtful, opinionsated takes on how politics intersects with media, elections, and governance.

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2. Abdul A. Sayed
3. Bill Kristol
4. Theo Von
5. AB Stoddard
6. Dean Phillips
7. Tristan Snell
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