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Two Old Psychologists Talking About Stuff

Dr Richard Bennett and Dr Ray Owen
Mental Health
Psychology
Acceptance and Commitment Therapy
Free Will
Connection
Social Interaction
Christmas
Aging
Influences On Behavior
Mortality
Values
Determinism
Family
Psychological Research
Grief
Libertarianism
Ritual
Brain Function
Community
Relational Frame Theory

Between them, Richard Bennett and Ray Owen have accumulated over 70 years of experience working in healthcare. As clinical psychologists, they have a long history of helping people navigate the many challenges of life, providing both therapy for individuals and psychological support for organisations. In a departure from their more academic pursuits of teaching, training, and writing books, (and, ... more

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Rich and Ray are joined by Dr Freddy Jackson-Brown, a clinical psychologist whose work straddles the fields of contextual behavioural science and artificial intelligence. Freddy speaks about how he has contributed to making psychological support more... more

In the first episode of the new 'invite a guest' season, Rich and Ray speak to Dr Dawn Johnson about how she applies Acceptance & Commitment Therapy (ACT) to her experience of living with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome. Dawn speaks about her journey toward d... more

In the final episode of Season Two, Rich and Ray discuss a core component of the Acceptance & Commitment Therapy (ACT) approach to unwelcome thoughts, known in the trade as 'defusion'. They cover some of the reasons why our unwelcome thoughts seem so... more

So how are you settling in to 2026? How are you feeling about world events and the future prospects of our societies and our species? Unfortunately, there is a lot of data suggesting that anxiety is on the rise, and that many people are increasingly ... more

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Freddy Jackson-Brown
Clinical psychologist; AI researcher integrating ACT/RFT with AI
Episode: Will AI make everything better or kill us all? (with Dr Freddy Jackson-Brown)
Dawn Johnson
President of the UK and Ireland chapter of ACBS
Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS)
Episode: Manchester, here we come!

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Richard Bennett
Host and Co-host of the podcast, Richard brings extensive experience in clinical psychology, sharing insights and personal reflections during each episode.
Ray Owen
Co-host of the podcast, Ray shares his professional experiences and personal insights on life, enriching discussions with his unique perspective in psychology.

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4.8 out of 5 stars from 18 ratings
  • I find this podcast interesting and helpful. I'm currently engaging with ACT therapy and this podcast really helps to consolidate my learning, helping me build on my therapy sessions.

    The podcast is accessible, good natured, kind and funny.

    A decent podcast is like sharing a conversation with folks you like and this podcast hits the mark. Thank you both.

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Rebecca
    7 months ago
  • Great listen

    Really enjoy you guys chatting about stuff. So interesting. You both have a fab way of explaining your thoughts through psychology themes. Love it. ‘Let’s ask Ray’ a particular favourite, been using that one for years 😎xx

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    💚Rose
    United Kingdom2 years ago

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The conversational style makes complex ideas more accessible and relatable, enhancing the overall listening experience.

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Will AI make everything better or kill us all? (with Dr Freddy Jackson-Brown)
Q: Do you think we can create AI therapists that deliver ACT effectively, and what are the main hurdles?
AI can deliver core ACT processes and support learning of mediational processes, but it won't replicate the full human therapeutic experience, especially the non-verbal and relational nuances. The main hurdles include ensuring reliable non-verbal understanding, sustaining long-term commitments, and aligning AI outputs with ethical standards and safety.
How to live well with a long-term health condition (with Dr Dawn Johnson)
Q: If you could, which superpower would you have and why?
The guests discuss desires like perfect recall, but emphasize that any superpower reveals values; the point is choosing what matters most and how it supports living with health challenges rather than escaping reality.
Two old psychologists look back at 2025
Q: What is your favorite song and why?
Ray selects two tracks: The Firth of Fifth by Genesis as his top obscure choice, and Blackbird by The Beatles as a more recognizable pick; Rich counters with The I Am the Resurrection by The Stone Roses, and both discuss why these songs resonate—musical complexity, emotional memory, and personal meaning—before sharing thoughts on how these selections reflect their broader views on music and culture.
'Stuff', or, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
Q: What is the worst food of all time?
Ray suggests he will never eat brain knowingly, while Richard agrees it sounds quite shocking.
'Old', or, the pros and cons of ageing
Q: Are you interested in immortality?
I'm not interested in the immortality bit of a deal. I'm very interested in the chance to see what two or 3000 years would look like, but I would definitely want opt out clause at the end of a bit of time of seeing it.

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