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This Working Life

ABC Australia
Mental Health
Workplace Culture
Work-Life Balance
Leadership
Employee Engagement
Artificial Intelligence
Productivity
Burnout
Employee Wellbeing
Decision-Making
Psychosocial Safety
Jargon
Grief
Reference Checks
Communication
Remote Work
Employee Well-Being
Hybrid Work
Work Stress
Mindfulness

You spend so much time on work, why accept the status quo, when there are ways to do it better? Get expert advice, research and hacks that will crush your inertia. Join Lisa Leong and other This Working Lifers as we experiment and explore the latest in the world of work. We cover policy issues, like hybrid workplaces and remote work, employee wellbeing and organisational culture, the use of AI, em... more

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Latest Episodes

Are you burnt out ... again?!

How does it keep coming round like clockwork?

We're entering burnout season, and author Karl Treacher agues in his new book Built to Burn that you burning out is a feature of the system, not a bug.

Are we facing an... more

Are you drowning in digital?

Are the company sponsored mental health tools helping you at all? They've become the norm as they're cheaper and easier to apply than traditional methods.

But research is showing that these applications and online too... more

It feels like we’re constantly being asked to know things, to be rock solid in our information.

But is this desire for control and certainty stopping us from making better decisions both at work, and about our working lives?

Journalist and author... more

Do you measure up?

Digital and AI tools coupled with an increased desire for productivity means we’re being marked more closely than ever before.

New research shows that when we know how we're being measured we stop prioritising the work that isn'... more

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Recent Guests

Julieta Galante
Associate Professor of Public Mental Health, University of Melbourne
University of Melbourne
Episode: Wellness shortcuts do more harm than good
Stefan Volk
Professor of Management, University of Sydney
University of Sydney
Episode: Wellness shortcuts do more harm than good
Simone Stolzoff
Journalist and author
Author of How to Not Know
Episode: Simone Stolzoff wants you to be uncertain!
Martin Edwards
Professor of Organizational Psychology
University of Queensland Business School
Episode: You're being measured!
Daniel Ziffer
ABC Business Reporter
ABC
Episode: You're being measured!
Patrick Aouad
Neurologist, neuroscientist and CEO of CU Health
CU Health
Episode: Fluorescent lights burning you out?
Natalie Phillips-Mason
Founder of Inclusive Change
Inclusive Change
Episode: Fluorescent lights burning you out?
Michael Spagnolio
Design Director, Spaceful
Spaceful
Episode: Fluorescent lights burning you out?
Natalie Sheard
Lawyer and McKenzie postdoctoral fellow at the University of Melbourne
University of Melbourne
Episode: How to get hired in the AI age

Host

Lisa Leong
Host of This Working Life

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 512 ratings
  • Always learning something new!

    Can’t believe this podcast doesn’t have more reviews!! Love the host and I always leave learning something new. Episodes also feature insightful interviewees and practical tips :)

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AZ939
    United States20 days ago
  • Such a valuable program

    I am a workplace coach and get so many good nuggets and insights from listening to This Working Life. Lisa is a great presenter and interviewer and they get really good guests on too. Short format makes it easy to digest and apply.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cath in Sydney
    Australia3 months ago
  • ABC should be for everyone

    This show, like a lot of the ABC reflects middle and upper middle class white people in the workplace. It has zero relevance to working class people who are often trapped in their workplace by the middle and upper middle class. Burnout, for example, happens to retail workers, receptionists and warehouse workers. Only they often have little choice but to continue to work. Why not once in while speak with a working class worker instead of Uni educated, American workplace importer managers who ofte... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Willow K44
    Australia8 months ago
  • Good Show, Slogan not so good

    I didn’t think I’d find this show interesting but I do. But thank God you got rid of that cringeworthy old slogan, “Work it baby.’ Awful. The new one is better but not better than having none at all. An extra star rating if you drop it!

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Rackoff1
    Taiwana year ago
  • Authentic Self

    This episode is reason enough to unsubscribe. I’d consider this to be pro employer messaging and almost propaganda from the guest (older generation) to dismiss the new younger coming in. This will only cause further division and issues in the world. Do better.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    MC1Rcrisps
    United Statesa year ago

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Some reviews note the show can feel exclusive or niche to certain workplace perspectives
Thoughtful host with strong questions and practical takeaways for work
Listeners appreciate timely topics and lively conversations with experts
Guests bring data-driven insights that are accessible for everyday work decisions

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#5
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Apple Podcasts
#55
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Apple Podcasts
#212
Italy/Business/Careers
Apple Podcasts
#7
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Apple Podcasts
#24
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#26
South Korea/Business/Careers

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Simone Stolzoff wants you to be uncertain!
Q: What practical steps can someone take to sit with not knowing?
Develop anchors, build to learn with quick prototypes, and cultivate curiosity over fear; expose yourself to uncertainty in small, low-stakes ways to rewire the brain for greater tolerance and creativity.
Simone Stolzoff wants you to be uncertain!
Q: What is a red team and how can it help a workplace?
A red team acts as internal adversaries to uncover blind spots in plans, leading to more robust decisions; however, it can slow decision-making, so organizations must balance speed and thoroughness and integrate diverse perspectives from leadership down.
Simone Stolzoff wants you to be uncertain!
Q: What are the three certainty traps Stolzoff identifies, and how can we navigate them?
The traps are comfort, hubris, and the need for control. He suggests embracing humility, trading some certainty for curiosity, valuing doubt for better planning, and focusing on what you can control while accepting what you cannot.
Simone Stolzoff wants you to be uncertain!
Q: Why do we love certainty so much, Simone?
Certainty feels safe and reduces anxiety because it simplifies the world; people cling to the known, but Stolzoff argues that sampling uncertainty thoughtfully can reveal new paths and opportunities, especially in changing job markets and technologies like AI.
You're being measured!
Q: How can organizations implement measurement tools well to avoid negative impacts?
By ensuring procedural fairness, transparency in data collection, employee input on useful metrics, and clear channels to raise concerns, which helps align metrics with a fair and supportive workplace culture.

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1. Julieta Galante
2. Stefan Volk
3. Simone Stolzoff
4. Martin Edwards
5. Daniel Ziffer
6. Patrick Aouad
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8. Michael Spagnolio

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