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The Economy, Stupid

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First Guardian Master Fund
US Economy
Australian Economy
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Economics
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Donald Trump
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Formerly The Money, The Economy, Stupid is your weekly guide to the world of business, economics and finance. Every Thursday, economist Peter Martin is joined by a team of sharp young thinkers for a fresh conversation about the financial stories making headlines and how they might affect you.

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The government has promised to crack down. But victims can still be left owing debts they never created.

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Consumer sentiment remains at fifty year lows. The Reserve Bank has surveyed Australians to find out why.

The first computer revolution was supposed to bring mass unemployment but didn't. Is this time really different?

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Sam Bennett
Former National Disability Insurance Agency official, now with the Grattan Institute
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Pelin Akiol
NDIS researcher, Research Manager at the E61 Institute
E61 Institute
Episode: What can save the NDIS?
Gianni Lacava
Director of Research at the E61 Institute; former Reserve Bank staffer
E61 Institute
Episode: This is what worries Australians most about the economy
Sherelle Murphy
Oceana Chief Economist for EY; former Reserve Bank staffer
EY
Episode: This is what worries Australians most about the economy
Joshua Gans
AI and innovation economist, University of Toronto
University of Toronto
Episode: Will AI really take our jobs?
Janine Dixon
Economic modeler, Centre for Policy Studies, Victoria University
Victoria University
Episode: Will AI really take our jobs?
Victoria Baranoff
Economist, University of Melbourne
University of Melbourne
Episode: What can convict Australia tell us about the manosphere?
Pauline Grosjean
Economist, University of New South Wales
University of New South Wales
Episode: What can convict Australia tell us about the manosphere?
Amy Oster
Head of Policy Institute Australia
Policy Institute Australia
Episode: Harbour views and the full pension

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Peter Martin
Host of The Economy, Stupid

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4.6 out of 5 stars from 682 ratings
  • Economists out of touch

    I listen regularly and more commonly than I would like find myself shaking my head at the presenter and “experts”. In this episode there was “overwhelming” convincing evidence that Australians were more concerned about inflation over unemployment. This was based on a survey of 9,000 out 28,000,000 people (0.03% of the population)!!!

    The next question is from which demographic?

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    poolman.com.au
    Australia17 days ago
  • I am interested but the title is offensive

    Change the name of the show

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    Helskiinhackett
    Australia2 months ago
  • No good host

    Host needs to be gone: old, patronising dinosaur. Good episode on the current time being like the 1930s but again, it’s a bunch of boomers running the show. The deteriorating conditions started with Gen X. Employment was very hard to find, house prices started to go up then. Great how the hosts thinks it’s started with the Millenials. And for those who are worried about Hanson, you asked for it by bringing in Albo. Politics in the middle is best for Oz

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    i get more info from wikipedia
    Australia2 months ago
  • Hideous noise

    Have unsubscribed, purely due the offensive assault of the noise they substitute for theme music. Maybe it's what economists like to listen to in their homes but it HURTS MY EARS. It actually HURTS my EARS. I don't know how they make it so bad. It sounds like finger clicking somehow digitally enhanced to have the effect of sitting beside an orchestra of garbage can players hitting the metal lids onto metal cans. I was enjoying the conversations but I just can't pay the price of submitting to thi... more

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    Tupppi
    Australia3 months ago
  • Rude Host

    The host likes to interrupt guests all the time, very unprofessional!

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    Shaunify
    Australia3 months ago

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Audience values well-researched, data-driven policy analysis and accessible economics.
Listeners praise clear explanations and balanced discussion with strong guest lineups.

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The tricks they use to stop us getting cheaper petrol
Q: David, a few years ago in Perth in 2010, you noticed a substantial jump in the profit margins of petrol stations, a doubling in fact. How did you and your colleagues investigate what happened?
We started with a large dataset from Perth, mapped every price and station, and found a clear rising trend in margins beginning around 2010. With 1.6 million price observations over 15 years, we identified a pattern: prices tended to rise on Thursdays due to a leader-follower dynamic, where BP's pricing acted as a signal that others followed, creating a coordinated-like effect.
How to avoid a world on fire
Q: What policies could defuse the risk of extremes and avoid a world on fire, particularly in the face of AI-driven disruption?
They discuss universal basic income as a bridge to a future with less reliance on traditional jobs, alongside measures to strengthen social safety nets, retraining, and targeted governance reforms to ensure equitable growth and manage the transition without triggering disorder or backlash.
How to avoid a world on fire
Q: What do you see as the strongest parallels between today and the 1930s that could push society toward extremes?
The guests describe economic disruption, growing inequality, loss of faith in institutions, and rapid technological change as core drivers, arguing that without guardrails and adaptive policy, public anger can crystallize into support for radical solutions just as in the 1930s, though the exact outcomes will depend on policy choices and societal resilience.
Australia's $200 billion budget secret
Q: Kerry, tax expenditures used to be completely invisible. Indeed, the name didn't exist until the 1960s. What happened? How was the concept made visible in the US and in Australia?
Kerry explains that the concept came from policymakers in the United States and Australia as a framework to compare tax concessions to direct spending, with significant early work in Australia leading to formal reporting and a push for transparency.
Inflation’s jumped again - is another rate rise coming?
Q: How high might inflation peak and what would trigger a recession?
They project a peak just over 5% for headline inflation with the unemployment rate possibly rising to around 4.6-4.7%, and recession risk remains low but non-zero, depending on inflation dynamics and wage-price interactions.

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<paragraph>Across recent episodes, the show centers on macroeconomics, public policy, taxation, housing, energy markets, and how these forces affect everyday Australians. Conversations blend data-driven analysis, policy design, and practical implications, often featuring senior economists, policy researchers, and journalists who illuminate complex topics like wealth taxes, bracket creep, budget measures, and the dynamics of inflation, wages, and unemployment. A notable strength is the host's ability to pair rigorous research with accessible discussion, and to bring historically informed perspectives to contemporary policy trade-offs. The format typically includes expert guests and practitioners from universities, banks, think tanks, and Tre... more

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