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Ben Olson and Nathan Fox started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review, and 3) send us questions: help@thinkinglsat.com. Don't pay for law school! Learn more at lsatdemon.com

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A Demon student posts on Reddit about skipping the third passage on Reading Comprehension. Ben and Nathan advise doing the passages in order. As the student’s LSAT ability improves, their reading and answering speed will improve with it.

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Dan Currell
Former Deputy Undersecretary and Senior Advisor at the Department of Education; New York Times opinion contributor; author of The College Question
The College Question / Education Policy
Episode: Why Law Firms Can't Stop Hiring (Ep. 569)
Peter Parker
Email author discussed on the show; real listener scenario
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Episode: The Truth About Softs (Ep. 555)
Stephen Davidoff Solomon
Law professor at UC Berkeley and author of the opinion piece discussed
UC Berkeley
Episode: The Timeline Trap (Ep. 507)
Condoleezza Rice
Former Provost of Stanford and a notable alumni discussed in context
Stanford University
Episode: The Timeline Trap (Ep. 507)
Ted Olson
Former Solicitor General and a notable alumni discussed in context
Episode: The Timeline Trap (Ep. 507)
Rachel Cohen
Harvard Law School graduate and former associate at Skadden Arps, who resigned in protest against Trump administration policies
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Episode: Big Law vs. Trump (with Rachel Cohen) (Ep. 505)
Jackie Schafer
CEO of Clearbrief and former litigator with extensive experience in using AI for legal practices.
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Episode: From Big Law to Tech CEO (Jackie Schafer) (Ep. 460)
Rachel Gezerseh
Trial attorney specializing in catastrophic personal injury and author of The Law Career Playbook.
Panish Shea & Boyle LLP
Episode: Start Networking Now (Rachel Gezerseh) (Ep. 456)
Angela Vorpahl
1L strategy coach who helps law students take control of their 1L grades
Episode: Five Misguided 1L Study Tips (Angela Vorpahl) (Ep. 454)

Hosts

Nathan Fox
Co-host of the show, co-founder of LSAT Demon / Thinking LSAT.
Ben Olson
Co-host of the show and co-founder of lsatdemon.com; long-time host with focus on LSAT strategy and school economics.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 1.4k ratings
  • Highly recommend

    I give Nate and Ben full credit for my law school scholarship. I am now a practicing attorney and I do not need to worry about massive student loans. My wife is looking to go to law school and I told her this podcast should be mandatory for those prepping for the LSAT or thinking about law school.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    OJA-AZ
    United Statesa year ago
  • Everything you need

    Ben and Nate and the whole team are an extraordinary resource. If you know you want to go to law school, they’ll help you avoid debt and costly mistakes. If you aren’t sure, they’ll help you think through what law school can do for you. Plus, they’re funny!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Reasonably okay person
    United States2 years ago
  • Do not listen

    There are better test prep companies. These guys have an unearned superiority complex and give bad advice

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    sandovalalberto
    United States2 years ago
  • Helped me break into the 170s!!

    I have never been a strong standardized test taker. Listening to this podcast over the last year has given me so much LSAT swagger that I didn’t even know I needed to crush this test. Ben and Nate keep it real but I like their candor. At times they can come across as harsh but after listening to 400+ of these episodes I can confidently say that they want all of their listeners to succeed on the LSAT and in life in general. I love their no-nonsense approach to the test. They break everything down... more

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    baurorag
    United States2 years ago
  • If you want to be talked out of law school, this podcast is for you

    There might be some decent advice mixed in with the negativity. However, if you have your mind made up to attend law school you should probably steer clear of this podcast. Also, it should be noted the hosts are NOT attorneys. They attended law school and decided practicing law was not for them.

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    LovingMyLife
    United States2 years ago

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The resources and podcast content are seen as game-changing for substantial score improvements and scholarship opportunities.
Overall, guests and hosts are praised for debt-reduction guidance and practical LSAT strategy.
The banter and humor are appreciated by many, though some find the tone polarizing.

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What Students Get Wrong About RC (Ep. 580)
Q: Should I apply now or have these schools put my application on hold until my November test score is released?
The hosts recommend waiting until the student has finished taking the LSAT and applying in the next cycle. They encourage him to keep improving his score, apply broadly, and compare offers to reduce tuition and debt.
What Students Get Wrong About RC (Ep. 580)
Q: Does it make sense to choose which three Reading Comprehension passages to do based on the number of questions?
The hosts recommend working through the passages in order rather than trying to select them. They say later passages are often harder, and that consistently practicing the full section in sequence helps students build the ability to complete all four.
Moneyball in Provo (Ep. 581)
Q: How can I tell whether an answer choice is a necessary assumption or whether it would ensure the author's argument?
For a necessary assumption question, look for an answer that must be true given the argument. For a sufficient assumption question, find an additional premise that, together with the stated evidence, proves the conclusion.
Moneyball in Provo (Ep. 581)
Q: How should I handle applying to law school if I cannot apply broadly because my soon-to-be wife will be attending dental school somewhere in the Midwest?
The hosts recommend not rushing into law school, considering work or internships to test whether law is a good fit, and improving the applicant's GPA and LSAT. If he must apply locally, they advise applying to competing schools as well to preserve scholarship negotiating leverage.
Above The Law Ranks for Big Law (Ep. 565)
Q: Is it true that the LSAT score impact is limited once you cross a median at a given school, and do higher repeated scores hurt or help in admissions?
They argue that medians matter, but higher scores can still help by pushing a candidate above a school's median and improving scholarship offers, and they critique the notion that retaking harms one's profile, pointing out that many schools value higher scores even if a school's median is already high.

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