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Ben Olson and Nathan Fox started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review, and 3) send us questions: help@thinkinglsat.com. Don't pay for law school! Learn more at lsatdemon.com

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A student pushes back on the Demon's advice against diagramming on the LSAT. Nathan and Ben respond with why their intuitive approach helps students answer questions faster and more accurately.

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Recent Guests

Dan Currell
Former deputy undersecretary and senior advisor at the Department of Education (2018-2021)
The College Question (Substack) / NYT columnist
Episode: Inside the College Pricing Game ft. Dan Currell (Ep. 556)
Peter Parker
Email author discussed on the show; real listener scenario
Thinking LSAT listener
Episode: The Truth About Softs (Ep. 555)
Stephen Davidoff Solomon
Law professor at UC Berkeley and author of the opinion piece discussed
UC Berkeley
Episode: The Timeline Trap (Ep. 507)
Condoleezza Rice
Former Provost of Stanford and a notable alumni discussed in context
Stanford University
Episode: The Timeline Trap (Ep. 507)
Ted Olson
Former Solicitor General and a notable alumni discussed in context
Episode: The Timeline Trap (Ep. 507)
Rachel Cohen
Harvard Law School graduate and former associate at Skadden Arps, who resigned in protest against Trump administration policies
Skadden Arps
Episode: Big Law vs. Trump (with Rachel Cohen) (Ep. 505)
Jackie Schafer
CEO of Clearbrief and former litigator with extensive experience in using AI for legal practices.
Clearbrief
Episode: From Big Law to Tech CEO (Jackie Schafer) (Ep. 460)
Rachel Gezerseh
Trial attorney specializing in catastrophic personal injury and author of The Law Career Playbook.
Panish Shea & Boyle LLP
Episode: Start Networking Now (Rachel Gezerseh) (Ep. 456)
Angela Vorpahl
1L strategy coach who helps law students take control of their 1L grades
Episode: Five Misguided 1L Study Tips (Angela Vorpahl) (Ep. 454)

Hosts

Nathan Fox
Co-host of the Thinking LSAT podcast, co-founder of LSAT Demon
Ben Olson
Co-host of Thinking LSAT Podcast, co-founder of LSAT Demon

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 1.4k ratings
  • Highly recommend

    I give Nate and Ben full credit for my law school scholarship. I am now a practicing attorney and I do not need to worry about massive student loans. My wife is looking to go to law school and I told her this podcast should be mandatory for those prepping for the LSAT or thinking about law school.

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    5
    OJA-AZ
    United Statesa year ago
  • Everything you need

    Ben and Nate and the whole team are an extraordinary resource. If you know you want to go to law school, they’ll help you avoid debt and costly mistakes. If you aren’t sure, they’ll help you think through what law school can do for you. Plus, they’re funny!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Reasonably okay person
    United States2 years ago
  • Do not listen

    There are better test prep companies. These guys have an unearned superiority complex and give bad advice

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    sandovalalberto
    United States2 years ago
  • Helped me break into the 170s!!

    I have never been a strong standardized test taker. Listening to this podcast over the last year has given me so much LSAT swagger that I didn’t even know I needed to crush this test. Ben and Nate keep it real but I like their candor. At times they can come across as harsh but after listening to 400+ of these episodes I can confidently say that they want all of their listeners to succeed on the LSAT and in life in general. I love their no-nonsense approach to the test. They break everything down... more

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    baurorag
    United States2 years ago
  • If you want to be talked out of law school, this podcast is for you

    There might be some decent advice mixed in with the negativity. However, if you have your mind made up to attend law school you should probably steer clear of this podcast. Also, it should be noted the hosts are NOT attorneys. They attended law school and decided practicing law was not for them.

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    LovingMyLife
    United States2 years ago

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Many listeners cite improved scores and clarified understanding of law-school economics.
Listeners praise the blunt, no-nonsense LSAT guidance and practical scholarship negotiation tips.
Some reviews criticize tone as harsh but acknowledge value in actionable prep.

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Above The Law Ranks for Big Law (Ep. 565)
Q: Is it true that the LSAT score impact is limited once you cross a median at a given school, and do higher repeated scores hurt or help in admissions?
They argue that medians matter, but higher scores can still help by pushing a candidate above a school's median and improving scholarship offers, and they critique the notion that retaking harms one's profile, pointing out that many schools value higher scores even if a school's median is already high.
Above The Law Ranks for Big Law (Ep. 565)
Q: Christopher asks about pass/fail courses and law school admissions, and whether too many pass/fail courses could hurt an applicant.
The hosts agree that pass/fail can protect GPA and that many schools care more about LSAT and overall GPA; they criticize the idea that pass/fail would automatically harm admissions and emphasize reporting of GPA medians rather than penalizing pass/fail often.
Welcome to the Waitlist Games (Ep. 564)
Q: Should Endry sign up for August or just apply?
If Endry can commit to multiple attempts and feels ready to push beyond 171, signing up for August and planning September (and possibly October) increases the odds of a higher score rather than risking a single shot at a lower result.
Advice for Pre-Law Advisors (Ep. 559)
Q: How should advisers talk about the LSAT, given that many believe it is hard?
Emphasize that the LSAT is learnable with careful reading and practice, and reassure students that with proper study, scores can improve significantly.
Advice for Pre-Law Advisors (Ep. 559)
Q: Should pre-law advisers tell students whether law school is the right path or push them toward it anyway?
Focus on presenting an evidence-based view: evaluate motivations, discuss real costs and debt, and help students align with career outcomes rather than selling law as a guaranteed path.

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